Stupidity of Dual Citizenship
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I may as well put in my two cents worth on the issue of dual citizenship.
Some citizens acquire dual citizenship at birth, as did my son. I'm canadian and his mother is american, and he was born within the US. So he's automatically a canadian and an american citizen.
Therefore I support canadian citizens who hold dual citizenship ... conditionally.
I would institute a selective process of allowing dual citizenship that would depend on the "other" country. If the other country is a terror supporting/sponsoring country such as Syria/Iran, then no, I would not allow dual citizenship in those cases. Similarly, for countries that are run by drug lords or militias, I would also deny dual citizenship. Any rogue nation should be off the list as this would avoid any conflict of interest with our citizens (on choosing which country to fight for) if an armed conflict would arise with the other nation.
Bottom line, we can allow canadians to hold dual citizenship, but we need to have rules and guidelines to manage the process.
Some citizens acquire dual citizenship at birth, as did my son. I'm canadian and his mother is american, and he was born within the US. So he's automatically a canadian and an american citizen.
Therefore I support canadian citizens who hold dual citizenship ... conditionally.
I would institute a selective process of allowing dual citizenship that would depend on the "other" country. If the other country is a terror supporting/sponsoring country such as Syria/Iran, then no, I would not allow dual citizenship in those cases. Similarly, for countries that are run by drug lords or militias, I would also deny dual citizenship. Any rogue nation should be off the list as this would avoid any conflict of interest with our citizens (on choosing which country to fight for) if an armed conflict would arise with the other nation.
Bottom line, we can allow canadians to hold dual citizenship, but we need to have rules and guidelines to manage the process.
RE: Stupidity of Dual Cit
We will spend millions and millions of dollars resucing other people's citizens (think Iraq, Afghanistan, Various African nations, Haiti ..and the list goes on), but we can't spend a few million to rescue our own?
We will spend millions and millions of dollars resucing other people's citizens (think Iraq, Afghanistan, Various African nations, Haiti ..and the list goes on), but we can't spend a few million to rescue our own?
RE: Stupidity of Dual Cit
Here's an idea: get rid off all national borders so that stuff like this is not a problem
Here's an idea: get rid off all national borders so that stuff like this is not a problem
Semperfi_dani wrote:
FYI, the costs to get a person from Beruit to Canada, and then to which ever city they want to go to is going to cost close to two thousand dollars a head. Remember that there are 50,000 "citizens" wanting to come to Canada. Do the math, we are talking upwards of a hundred million dollars. I'm not saying we shouldn't do the rescue, but I think we have to lay down some ground rules for the next time.
FYI, the costs to get a person from Beruit to Canada, and then to which ever city they want to go to is going to cost close to two thousand dollars a head. Remember that there are 50,000 "citizens" wanting to come to Canada. Do the math, we are talking upwards of a hundred million dollars. I'm not saying we shouldn't do the rescue, but I think we have to lay down some ground rules for the next time.
#juan said:
I was glad to see some appreciation being expressed by the refugees on last night's newscasts.......if I had watched on more idiot complain and whine and go on about all the discomfort of being saved, I'd have headed to the bloody Mediteranean with a torpedo, I swear.
A passenger flown out on Harper's plane was wanted in Canada for fraud. :lol:
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=60c96253-b7df-4910-ba2c-3fd997c9edba
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=60c96253-b7df-4910-ba2c-3fd997c9edba
#juan said:But Abbas Hachem is somehow carrying a Canadian passport. Movin' right along here....
I'm just sooooo glad he was able to get out alive. Who cares about the 70k he and a friend stole.
Said1 said:#juan said:But Abbas Hachem is somehow carrying a Canadian passport. Movin' right along here....
I'm just sooooo glad he was able to get out alive. Who cares about the 70k he and a friend stole.
So why didn't he pay for his own evacuation? With 70k, he could have flown first class at better than the speed of sound. Sort of like how the queen flies -- a la concorde.
I suppose he didn't want to waste any of his stolen money on trivial affairs like survival? A penny saved is a penny earned, ya know.
I wish that that crook was killed. Now it is going to cost us even more money to house that lefty crook in jail, then a lawyer, then the courts and then he will get a slap on the wrist.
Good God the mess those idiot fiberals have created is costing us more than millions.
Good God the mess those idiot fiberals have created is costing us more than millions.
Don't know. Perhaps all his cash is tied up in investments.
I'm also glad he was released after spending one day behind bars. I mean really, holding him any longer would be barbaric.
I'm also glad he was released after spending one day behind bars. I mean really, holding him any longer would be barbaric.
Maggiemygosh,
The Liberals did't cause the Israelis to bomb southern Lebanon. The Liberals didn't make the dual citizenship thing all by themselves. Right now what we should be upset about is that Abbas Hachem took the place of someone who deserved to come back to Canada. Were Israel a responsible member of the world community, they would be helping with the evacuations by not bombing them.
The Liberals did't cause the Israelis to bomb southern Lebanon. The Liberals didn't make the dual citizenship thing all by themselves. Right now what we should be upset about is that Abbas Hachem took the place of someone who deserved to come back to Canada. Were Israel a responsible member of the world community, they would be helping with the evacuations by not bombing them.
#Juan... Israel is the ONLY responsible and demcratic nation in the middle east.
Those idiot fiberals did support Palestine, Lebanon Syria and Iran with their foolish comments and lack of intelligence. The Fiberals were the ones whp created this idiotic dual citizenship policy mostly on behalf of the Lebanese.
It is called vote buying by the Fiberals and that is another reason why they allowed thousands of terrorists, criminals, rapists, murderers and drug lords into Canada.
Those idiot fiberals did support Palestine, Lebanon Syria and Iran with their foolish comments and lack of intelligence. The Fiberals were the ones whp created this idiotic dual citizenship policy mostly on behalf of the Lebanese.
It is called vote buying by the Fiberals and that is another reason why they allowed thousands of terrorists, criminals, rapists, murderers and drug lords into Canada.
Maggiemygosh said:
Your loyalty to Israel is clouding your vision. Israel's reprisals for the kidnapped soldier are as out of proportion as the Nazis were at Lidice or Oridour(sp) in WW2. I also think Hezbolla were being selfish and stupid by firing their pathetic homemade rockets at Israel because they knew there would be reprisals, It is unfortunate that Israel's reprisals killed over three hundred civilians.
Hey Mags,
Do you really care about dual-citizenship? Or are you simply just a racist? The underlying topic seems to have revealed itself with your posts.
The government takes our money all the time, do you really think you know where it's going?
Im sure if this were certain other countries you wouldn't even have given this "dual-citizenship thang" a second thought.
If the situation were reversed I'm sure you also would have done things differently, right? As if. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes then maybe you might even have an inkling of what it feels like, and that's a mile, these people have lived their whole lives in these conditions.
You can't choose where your are born or who you are born to. It's just "product of environment". We would probably be the same if we were born into this lifestyle. I'm sure you'll deny that, which is easy to say when you're sittin' @ home in Kanata, on your cozy couch with the frozen cappucino you picked up @ the local "Starbucks"!
So much for supporting facts, truth & reality!!!
Enjoy!!!MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
the Martyr
You can try to debate, but I don't bother. This is all I have to say.......
Do you really care about dual-citizenship? Or are you simply just a racist? The underlying topic seems to have revealed itself with your posts.
The government takes our money all the time, do you really think you know where it's going?
Im sure if this were certain other countries you wouldn't even have given this "dual-citizenship thang" a second thought.
If the situation were reversed I'm sure you also would have done things differently, right? As if. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes then maybe you might even have an inkling of what it feels like, and that's a mile, these people have lived their whole lives in these conditions.
You can't choose where your are born or who you are born to. It's just "product of environment". We would probably be the same if we were born into this lifestyle. I'm sure you'll deny that, which is easy to say when you're sittin' @ home in Kanata, on your cozy couch with the frozen cappucino you picked up @ the local "Starbucks"!
So much for supporting facts, truth & reality!!!
Enjoy!!!MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
the Martyr
You can try to debate, but I don't bother. This is all I have to say.......
#juan said:
Juan, there is a major difference between the Nazi reprisals after the assasination of Heydrich, and Israeli actions.
I am even going to pretend that locking all the female and young citizens of Lidice in a church and then burning it down, after lining up all the males and shooting them, is the ethical equivalent of the Israelis killing civilians as collateral damage(I hate that term, but....) in strikes on military targets......
I don't believe it, but I'll pretend.....
The difference that still exists is that the Nazis destroyed Lidice AFTER THE FACT, as revenge and group punishment for the peoples' imagined aide and support of Heydrich's assasins.
The Israelis are in the process of destroying a military enemy, and the civilians killed just happen to be unfortunate enough as to be in the way........
To be equivalent situations ethically, the citizens of Lidice would have to all live in the church where the Nazis finally cornered the assassins, the citizens would have to be killed inadvertently in the ensueing fight, and the vast majority of them would have to survive..........
BIG difference.......
A completely unfair analogy, IMHO.