Stupidity of Dual Citizenship

[#juan]

Colpy wrote:A completely unfair analogy, IMHO.

Unfair? Maybe, but three hundred men, women, and children are just as dead. You want to call it inadvertent? I call it down right uncaring and negligent. In killing three hundred civilians, they got one Hezbolla fighter. Are we to believe the Israelis are incompetent? Not likely, I don't think they give a shit one way or another.

 

[Maggiemygosh]

Juan you are denying the truth and facts. That is how the Fiberals behave along with those NDP idiots..

You intentionally did not speak the full truth. Why not?

Those terrorist bast**s Hezbollah crossed the border into Israel. They Murdered eight Israeli soldiers and kidnapped the remaining two.

From January 1st to June 30th those brainless Muslim terrorists fired over 1,438 Rockets into Israel.

Why do folks like you deny the truth facts and reality. I believe I know the answer which is apparent as the left coast of Canada.

You are a lefty and hate Israeli's.

YOU do not believe in a sovereign nation defending itself against terrorist idiots like those Muslims Pigs in Lebanon, Syria and Iran.

Too bad some civilians are geting killed over there but it is entirely the fault of Iran, Syria and Lebanon.

Those idiot civilians who refuse to leave southern Lebanon are Hezbollah supporters and if they get killed that is good news.

Israel is doing the right thing. If they get into deep doo doo then lets call in the USA and NUKE Iran, Syria and all of those Shias and Shiites and Sunnis.

Peace at last !!!

 

[Kreskin]

Juan you are denying the truth and facts. That is how the Fiberals behave along with those NDP idiots..

You intentionally did not speak the full truth. Why not?

Those terrorist bast**s Hezbollah crossed the border into Israel. They Murdered eight Israeli soldiers and kidnapped the remaining two.

From January 1st to June 30th those brainless Muslim terrorists fired over 1,438 Rockets into Israel.

Why do folks like you deny the truth facts and reality. I believe I know the answer which is apparent as the left coast of Canada.

You are a lefty and hate Israeli's.

YOU do not believe in a sovereign nation defending itself against terrorist idiots like those Muslims Pigs in Lebanon, Syria and Iran.

Too bad some civilians are geting killed over there but it is entirely the fault of Iran, Syria and Lebanon.

Those idiot civilians who refuse to leave southern Lebanon are Hezbollah supporters and if they get killed that is good news.

Israel is doing the right thing. If they get into deep doo doo then lets call in the USA and NUKE Iran, Syria and all of those Shias and Shiites and Sunnis.

Peace at last !!!

Can you attempt to write something that shows an ounce of respect to your fellow posters. We're all alittle tired of the know-it-all schtick.

 

[missile]

you can be our resident expert on stupidity..you cer :twisted: tainly have every qualification.

 

[#juan]

Maggiemygosh

I've just discovered that I can substitute just about any one of your posts with another. They all sound the same," The rotten fiberals and the bastard lefties are the cause of every evil in the known universe". Another point you make often is that anyone dissagreeing with you is either stupid or iuninformed. This is very useful because it means I don't have to read all your angry, "hate all Muslims" rants. Cheers

 

[Xdresser]

I am against dual citizenship as are many people I know. Hopefully the government will now look at it and get rid of it.

 

[Simpleton]

"I'D RATHER YOU HATE ME FOR WHO I AM, THEN LOVE ME FOR SOMEONE I AM NOT"

Hmmm, seems you're a day late and a buck short. The admins are putting the kabosh on the member-hating atmosphere that has recently surfaced. If you were looking for someone to hate you, you should have joined last week. :lol:

 

[tracy]

Re: RE: Stupidity of Dual Citizenship

[ That is what you mean when you say it is difficult for anyone to get into Canada. Sure it is. For white people.

That's just bs. The easiest immigration to Canada is for professionals just like in the US. Immigration Canada favors those with advanced education, that's why Albertan companies are often complaining about being unable to import tradespeople and laborers. Go to any nursing unit in the country and you'll find a good number of Brits (white europeans no less!). They have an easier time immigrating because of our "nursing shortage", just like I had coming to the US (I work in a heavily unionized area btw).

 

[Martyr]

"I'D RATHER YOU HATE ME FOR WHO I AM, THEN LOVE ME FOR SOMEONE I AM NOT"

Hmmm, seems you're a day late and a buck short. The admins are putting the kabosh on the member-hating atmosphere that has recently surfaced. If you were looking for someone to hate you, you should have joined last week. :lol:

Now why would I won't anyone to hate me??? I want everyone to love me & agree with me!!!

Pretty selfabsorbed, eh??? I know.....

Vanity...my 2nd favorite sin :wink:

I tend to only be mean to mean people.
I know, I know, 2 wrongs don't make it right!!!

Thanks for the observation, Simpleton,
the Martyr

 

[tracy]

Here's the problem with Canada revoking my citizenship: I am Canadian. If you think that's just about where a person lives in this moment, you don't get it and never will.

Then you should know that the US is the only country that bases its tax filing requirements on Citizenship rather than residency. An American citizen, in order to maintain their Citizenship is required to file an income tax return to the IRS every year and report all foreign income earned abroad (there's an exemption amount, of course, but it still needs to be filed). Perhaps if Canada adopted this policy, we would eliminate half of the 'fake Canadians' out there. Why would anyone feel a country owes them anything when they haven't contributed to the economy or society in that country for 'x' amount of years? There's more to being a Canadian than whipping out your passport when it happens to suit YOU. It's just wrong, period. Canada needs to tighten it's policies and stop allowing itself to be used as a door mat. Because who pays for it? Ultimately WE do, the taxpayers.

Did you also know that the US is billing their residents for their evacuations? Maybe they have the right idea afterall.

Whew, I feel better. Thank you for indulging me [/quote]

A lot of assumptions here...

Refugees aren't just handed citizenship. I worked at Immigration Services in a smallish town in BC. Those people go through a lot to become residents (not even citizens). Think it's frustrating dealing with Immigration Canada as an educated, professional American? Try it when they are insisting you produce your birth certificate or transcripts that you just didn't grab as you were fleeing from the militia cause you thought it was more important to grab your daughter. Immigration for refugees and those fleeing persecution since 9/11 has really changed.

As far as contributing to Canada... In my time in Canada, I contributed a lot more financially than many Canadians ever will regardless of not living there for X number of years. So, I'm still considered less Canadian than someone who doesn't pay any taxes and/or lives off the system? My mother hasn't paid taxes since 1976 because she hasn't worked at a paying job since then. That doesn't mean she isn't a valuable Canadian. I have no problem with people being billed for the services the Canadian government provides them with overseas. Or bill their families.

One of the main reasons Canada doesn't just revoke citizenship is that there are times when they WANT their citizens to come back. I get recruitment letters from BC and Ontario on a regular basis. The same jackass government politicians that made me leave now want me back...

 

[Simpleton]

Re: RE: Stupidity of Dual Citizenship

[ That is what you mean when you say it is difficult for anyone to get into Canada. Sure it is. For white people.

That's just bs. The easiest immigration to Canada is for professionals just like in the US. Immigration Canada favors those with advanced education, that's why Albertan companies are often complaining about being unable to import tradespeople and laborers. Go to any nursing unit in the country and you'll find a good number of Brits (white europeans no less!). They have an easier time immigrating because of our "nursing shortage", just like I had coming to the US (I work in a heavily unionized area btw).

That's pretty much what I said. Canada imports people that they need, or people people that need Canada.

If you're sittin' pretty in another country, and Canada has no need for you, they're not going to import you. It's really just that simple. There's no racism.

 

[#juan]

Martyr

Vanity...my 2nd favorite sin

I can't wait to learn what the 1st favorite sin is.

Meanwhile, Welcome Martyr

 

[tracy]

Re: RE: Stupidity of Dual Citizenship

[ That is what you mean when you say it is difficult for anyone to get into Canada. Sure it is. For white people.

That's just bs. The easiest immigration to Canada is for professionals just like in the US. Immigration Canada favors those with advanced education, that's why Albertan companies are often complaining about being unable to import tradespeople and laborers. Go to any nursing unit in the country and you'll find a good number of Brits (white europeans no less!). They have an easier time immigrating because of our "nursing shortage", just like I had coming to the US (I work in a heavily unionized area btw).

That's pretty much what I said. Canada imports people that they need, or people people that need Canada.

If you're sittin' pretty in another country, and Canada has no need for you, they're not going to import you. It's really just that simple. There's no racism.

Exactly, just like any other country. I have a friend in Canada (not white btw) who wants to move to the US, but she's an LPN so they won't take her. That's life. No one has the right to immigrate to any country. It surprises me that conservatives will complain that immigration Canada lets everyone in so easily then in the same breath complain that it's so hard to immigrate to Canada.

 

[Martyr]

Martyr

Vanity...my 2nd favorite sin

I can't wait to learn what the 1st favorite sin is.

Meanwhile, Welcome Martyr

Oooooooooooh, the suspense must be killing you...I'll let you ponder a little longer!

Thanks for the welcome!
The Martyr

 

[Colpy]

Colpy wrote:A completely unfair analogy, IMHO.

Unfair? Maybe, but three hundred men, women, and children are just as dead. You want to call it inadvertent? I call it down right uncaring and negligent. In killing three hundred civilians, they got one Hezbolla fighter. Are we to believe the Israelis are incompetent? Not likely, I don't think they give a shit one way or another.

I was just watching a special on CNN on Hezbollah, which is, to my surprize, the fifth largest military in the ME.

Israel is also fighting in Gaza.

Israel is acting AFTER she was attacked. Israel DID NOT attack Hezbollah and kill eight and kidnap two. She was ATTACKED!

I find it VERY hard to believe Israel has killed only one Hezbollah fighter......I would bet that every Hezbollah man killed becomes a civilian the second his carcass hits the ground. I had heard that the ratio was about 8 to one, which is bad enough, but which leaves us with 40 dead Hezbollah......

Not to mention destroyed roads, communications, TV stations, missile sites, training areas, etc, etc.

Israel has to destroy Hezbollah's ability to move around easily before she engages in a ground offensive, and she has to go in on the ground to crush Hezbollah, which IS a major threat, and which attacked her.

DAMN, the west has got to find its cojones, and come out in support of the free, democratic nation acting in its own defense against Hezbollah, the proxies of the murder states of Iran and Syria.

At least Harper knows who our friends SHOULD be.

Edited to say:

And WHO choose to place her missiles, HQs, and training areas in populated spots? Hezbollah is HIDING behind civilians, and (considering the thousands of bombs and shells used by Israel) I think 300 dead is VERY low, evidence of Israel's care.

 

[Semperfi_dani]

RE: Stupidity of Dual Cit

I'm not saying we shouldn't do the rescue, but I think we have to lay down some ground rules for the next time.

Not only do i agree with that...but what surprises me the most is that there was nothing in place before hand despite having a department to deal with this shit. Hell, we have a few departments..you think there would be at the very least a template on what to do if Canadians were stuck in a country that was suddenly at war.

 

[humanbeing]

RE: Stupidity of Dual Cit

Someone on here keeps going on about thousands upon thousands of drug lords, rapists, murderers, and terrorists in Canada.

I can see the rapists, murderers, and maybe even leaders of drug rings or something along those lines...

But where does this info about thousands of terrorists come from. I apologize for what may be my ignorance, but I've not heard this before. Then again, I haven't read the papes or watched the television news lately.

Where are these thousands of terrorists???

Are they in the supposed terrorist training camp that is located "somewhere outside Thunder Bay, Ont", like some police chief from down East has said?

(By the way, there is NO terrorist training camp somewhere outside Thunder Bay, Ont, despite what they are saying, and nobody in Thunder Bay -which includes police and city executives- can take this bologna seriously.)

 

[cdn_bc_ca]

Re: RE: Stupidity of Dual Cit

We will spend millions and millions of dollars resucing other people's citizens (think Iraq, Afghanistan, Various African nations, Haiti ..and the list goes on), but we can't spend a few million to rescue our own?

Good point.

Anyway, there will always be some freeloaders just as there are in Healthcare. I hardly expect all 50,000 people to be freeloading.... there are some people who do business down there.

I say, if they want Canada to evacuate them, then they have to pay the fare to get back. Or else, from now on, notify those Canadians that want to live in an unstable area that they may not get rescued.

 

[missile]

Most of the drug lords,rapists,etc are already here in the form of Canadian citizens. Other than that, I just want to back up what Colpy posted.

 

[shannon]

Re: RE: Stupidity of Dual Cit

Or else, from now on, notify those Canadians that want to live in an unstable area that they may not get rescued.

Good argument. Canadian citizens who volunteerily choose to live in an area inhabited by Hezbollah terrorists should be left to fend for themselves. After the events of 9/11, how can anyone possibly even consider moving to an area where terrorists have free movement within the area?