"Strategic voting" about the sickest thing I've heard of.

Machjo

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It's not as simple as that. He may be out, but his laws are still in place. Rewriting 9 years of badly written laws will take a while.
 

PoliticalNick

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My issue with Harper was on the civil liberties front, the niqab being just one example, Bill C-51, etc.

Had he done a better job on the civil liberties front, he might have one another majority.

Yep. The big downfall was not the economy but trying to force extreme social conservative policy on a country of liberal socialists.
 

Machjo

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Three things I would add to the Immigrant and Refugee Protection Act are protection from arbitrary detention, presumption of innocence and the right to counsel and to be informed of such a right.

On the flip side I would make it explicit in that Act that a plainclothed undercover police or CBSA officer is allowed to record audio or video with a hidden device within reasonable limits. I believe they are allowed to do it already but they're obviously not doing it or doing anything else to collect evidence for that matter, which results in them removing innocents and serious criminals from Canada for a year. For innocents it's not fair and for serious criminals the CBSA is actually assisting them in escaping justice!
 

Curious Cdn

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Even conservatives had enough.

Yup. The core of the Conservative party has moved away, way to the right but the Canadian public stay near the middle. Republican North does not work here and they have to get that out of their heads for once and for all.

Yep. The big downfall was not the economy but trying to force extreme social conservative policy on a country of liberal socialists.

Well, that is an extremist way to look at things and therein lies the problem. They're either 100% with you or they're a bunch of Commies? Understand that Libertarianism is a fringe movement, here and represents, at the most, a tenth of he country.

PS. The NDP was decimated last night. Canadians aren't particularly Socialist either or they would have backed that horse, instead.
 

Cannuck

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My issue with Harper was on the civil liberties front, the niqab being just one example, Bill C-51, etc.

Had he done a better job on the civil liberties front, he might have one another majority.

Yup, Canadians just aren't interested in the socially conservative bull****. The Harperites bet their money on it and it blew up in their faces. Hopefully the party will clean house and get rid problems. We'll need the Conservatives back in after a few years of the Liberals.
 

Cliffy

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hey dumb a$$, you can stop with your anti-Harper rhetoric, TrueDUH won the election last night.. calm down sunny.
Oh, I realized it was the last kick at the cat but, keep the faith Boomster, the Trudeau memes will be coming out real soon.
 

tay

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"Jean Oliver lives in Victoria and is a long time Green Party supporter. But in advanced polls, she decided to vote strategically, and cast a ballot for the Liberals by ticking Thomas's name.Oliver is worried that less informed voters will be casting ballots Monday based on misinformation."I worry about that too.

CBC : Liberal voters in Victoria confused after candidate drops out (link is external)

Three things to note here :

The "long time Green Party supporter" in the Victoria riding decides to "vote strategically" for the Liberals even though :


  1. the Liberal candidate Cheryl Thomas had withdrawn from the race (link is external) three weeks before
  2. the Liberals had come in third or fourth place (link is external)in that riding in the past three elections
  3. the voter's first choice, the Green Party, had come second in the byelection one year before and strategic vote proponents (link is external) projected a similar ranking for this election.
In the end, 8,489 votes were strategically cast for a Liberal candidate who had dropped out, more than the party received in the previous two elections, one of them a byelection, and more than the margin of difference between the first and second place NDP and Green candidates.