Stanly found "Not Guilty" in Boushie's death.

Hoid

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Oh BULLSYHTE.

The man has a right to be tried by a jury of HIS peers, not the peers of the victim, just to start with.

Secondly, the refusal of jury applicants by both the defense and the prosecution for no stated reason is a basic principle of our system of justice.

Thirdly.....justice was done. Don't go armed on a robbery spree. Full stop.

Really, what would you propose as a solution to this "deficientcy"?????
the systemic racism in Canadian society is only bullshit to white people.
 

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Coming from the biggest racist on the forum, that is hilarious.

Oh, Look! Two white guys gave me a red. Whoda thunk?

4 now (including me). Typical whiny post. He wasn;t shot because he was Indian. He was shot because he was a criminal and was up to no good.

An all white jury acquits a white guy of killing a native. A bunch of white guys cheer.
If the roles had been reversed and a native killed a white guy under the same circumstances, those same white guys would be screaming their fukken heads off for the death penalty and he would have got it (or life) because he was native.
Yup. No white privilege here folks. Move along.

A defendant is entititled to a jury of HIS peers not 12 SJW warriors out for a crusade.
 

justlooking

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They should have made a 4th option of "Negligent handling of a firearm causing death" this I believe he was guilty of

Isn't it interesting we never heard of any the criminal gang being prosecuted for anything that day ?

Firearms, assault, DUI, and.......................... nothing.

RE: ur 4th option
It's already too much for the Crown to be able to do murder OR manslaughter.
Letting them do the full list of everything possible just to get something to stick, is a big load of BS imo.
Either they have a case, or they don't.
 

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Of the record breaking 750 jury members sequestered whittled down to 250 how many were no shows from the Native community it was heard that most of the disqualified jury members had the excuse of to far to travel and cannot afford to travel from Northern communities. Also I'm pretty sure the 14 defence waivers didn't disqualify all the FN potential jurors something else disqualified them.
 

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Of the record breaking 750 jury members sequestered whittled down to 250 how many were no shows from the Native community it was heard that most of the disqualified jury members had the excuse of to far to travel and cannot afford to travel from Northern communities. Also I'm pretty sure the 14 defence waivers didn't disqualify all the FN potential jurors something else disqualified them.
This is what "systemic" means.

There are very good reasons First Nations are underrepresented in the jury pool and thus the jury itself.

Thank you for verifying this.
 

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Isn't it interesting we never heard of any the criminal gang being prosecuted for anything that day ?

Firearms, assault, DUI, and.......................... nothing.

RE: ur 4th option
It's already too much for the Crown to be able to do murder OR manslaughter.
Letting them do the full list of everything possible just to get something to stick, is a big load of BS imo.
Either they have a case, or they don't.

They got immunity for their testimony thus the change of their statements.

In the beginning 2nd degree wasn't a stretch with the initial statements, as the truth started coming out it should have changed to manslaughter and negligence
 
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Twin_Moose

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This is what "systemic" means.

There are very good reasons First Nations are underrepresented in the jury pool and thus the jury itself.

Thank you for verifying this.

Where was FSIN to help potential jurors to show up, jury selection was based on Health Cards so there wouldn't be bias in the selection

Ok, but then taking murder off the table.

After the pre-trial when most of the truth came out pre meditation should have been off the table and leaving death by accident or careless use of a firearm causing death put to the front
 

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Assigning blame is not actually even relevant to the issue. It is only first and foremost among those who are desperate not justify it as not being their fault.

There are many reasons First Nations are underrepresented in all social structures and institutions.

The idea is to invent a way in which they would be less discriminated against and subject to fairer treatment and better outcomes.
 

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An all white jury acquits a white guy of killing a native. A bunch of white guys cheer.
If the roles had been reversed and a native killed a white guy under the same circumstances, those same white guys would be screaming their fukken heads off for the death penalty and he would have got it (or life) because he was native.
Yup. No white privilege here folks. Move along.
If you put 12 Natives in the jury box you'd have 12 happy Natives relieved there is one less gang member in their community and hand down the same verdict.
 

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Assigning blame is not actually even relevant to the issue. It is only first and foremost among those who are desperate not justify it as not being their fault.

There are many reasons First Nations are underrepresented in all social structures and institutions.

The idea is to invent a way in which they would be less discriminated against and subject to fairer treatment and better outcomes.

Is lack of initiative one of them? Nothing stopping Natives from achieving more than natives themselves. A culture that attack their own community and peoples for trying to break the cycle and better themselves, RED APPLES anyone?
 

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Assigning blame is not actually even relevant to the issue. It is only first and foremost among those who are desperate not justify it as not being their fault.

There are many reasons First Nations are underrepresented in all social structures and institutions.

The idea is to invent a way in which they would be less discriminated against and subject to fairer treatment and better outcomes.

But none of them would have made it onto the jury of the accused peers as he was not native. And accused is entitled to a jury of his peers. So your argument is sort of on a tangent.
 

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"Is lack of initiative one of them?"

yes.

"Nothing stopping Natives from achieving more than natives themselves."


Okay

"A culture that attack their own community and peoples for trying to break the cycle and better themselves, RED APPLES anyone?"

So the natives themselves are too blame

If we all agree with this can we then move on to possibly fixing it?

You know, once your feeling are properly taken care of and blame has been assigned?
 

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Hell, the Crown under Harper spend millions appealing veterans lawsuits.

Money means nothing to the Crown.

It's not about money, it is about the principle that it is not okay to kill someone for property.

Self defence ..... maybe but even that is a stretch, legally. The very idea that you can't blow someone away to procecute your personal notion of justice is really pissing off the pistol-packing crowd because that is why they pack their pistols in the first place.
 

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It's not about money, it is about the principle that it is not okay to kill someone for property.

Self defence ..... maybe but even that is a stretch, legally. The very idea that you can't blow someone away to procecute your personal notion of justice is really pissing off the pistol-packing crowd because that is why they pack their pistols in the first place.


Gerard Stanley didn't kill anyone.
Confirmed by a jury.
It was an accident.
So your whole premise is just flat out wrong.