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CAPE CANAVERAL, FL – The pair of NASA astronauts stranded by mechanical failures on Boeing’s new Starliner spacecraft have been offered $200 in coupons from the company to be used on their next trip into space.


Captains Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams spent the better part of Wednesday afternoon aboard the International Space Station, where they were patched through to Boeing’s Customer Care Department. Having navigated a labyrinth of automated voices and touchtone menus, the pair eventually wound up qualifying for $200 in Boeing travel rewards plus an extra $25 in gift cards at the company’s online store when it was agreed that the problems on their Starliner were potentially life-threatening.
 

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August’s supermoon kicks off 4 months of lunar spectacles. Here’s how to watch
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Marcia Dunn
Published Aug 15, 2024 • 2 minute read

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — The first of four supermoons this year rises next week, providing tantalizing views of Earth’s constant companion.


Stargazers can catch the first act Monday as the full moon inches a little closer than usual, making it appear slightly bigger and brighter in the night sky.

“I like to think of the supermoon as a good excuse to start looking at the moon more regularly,” said Noah Petro, project scientist for NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.

August’s supermoon kicks off a string of lunar spectacles. September’s supermoon will coincide with a partial lunar eclipse. October’s will be the year’s closest approach, and November’s will round out the year.

What makes a moon so super?
More a popular term than a scientific one, a supermoon occurs when a full lunar phase syncs up with an especially close swing around Earth. This usually happens only three or four times a year and consecutively, given the moon’s constantly shifting, oval-shaped orbit.


A supermoon obviously isn’t bigger, but it can appear that way, although scientists say the difference can be barely perceptible.

“Unless you have looked at a lot of full moons or compare them in images, it is hard to notice the difference, but people should try,” Petro said in an email.

How do supermoons compare?
There’s a quartet of supermoons this year.

The first will be 224,917 miles (361,970 kilometers) away. The next will be nearly 3,000 miles (4,484 kilometers) closer the night of Sept. 17 into the following morning. A partial lunar eclipse will also unfold that night, visible in much of the Americas, Africa and Europe as the Earth’s shadow falls on the moon, resembling a small bite.

October’s supermoon will be the year’s closest at 222,055 miles (357,364 kilometers) from Earth, followed by November’s supermoon at a distance of 224,853 miles (361,867 kilometers).

What’s in it for me?
Scientists point out that only the keenest observers can discern the subtle differences. It’s easier to detect the change in brightness — a supermoon can be 30% brighter than average.

With the U.S. and other countries ramping up lunar exploration with landers and eventually astronauts, the moon beckons brighter than ever. As project scientist for the first team of moonwalkers coming up under Apollo’s follow-on program, Artemis, Petro is thrilled by the renewed lunar interest.

“It certainly makes it more fun to stare at,” Petro said.
 

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Between 2007 and 2009 many videos were recorded of UFOs in Kumburgaz, Turkey.

In 2009, probably the most spectacular UFO footage ever recorded was filmed in Kumburgaz when a mystery object was filmed with what looked like a humanoid at the front piloting it.

The video - which some may deem to be creepy - has been checked by several experts who say it is not fake.

What the Hell is that thing? Aliens from another planet? Visitors from another dimension? Time travellers from the future? A publically unknown human craft? Whatever it was, the dog didn't seem to like it.

 
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Super blue moon will be visible in Toronto on Monday night
Author of the article:Kevin Connor
Published Aug 18, 2024 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 1 minute read

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Torontonians will see a blue super moon on Monday
Toronto residents will be able to see the super blue moon when they look at the night’s sky on Monday.


The moon may even be full and stay around for three days.

U of T associate professor Suresh Sivanandam, director of the Dunlap Institute for Astronomy and Astrophysics, told CTV News Toronto that a supermoon is one that happens when it is close to earth.

“Everyone thinks the moon’s orbit is circular, and it’s always the same distance away from the Earth, but it’s actually slightly elliptical, and sometimes the moon is closer to the Earth, and sometimes it’s a little bit farther away,” Sivanandam said. “The supermoon happens when the moon is close to the Earth, and it also happens to be a full moon.”

Typically, a supermoon appears to be up to 10% larger and 20% brighter. The one Monday night may also appear blueish in colour. The next super blue moon will be seen in 2037.


“Different publications use slightly different thresholds for deciding when a full moon is close enough to the Earth to qualify as a supermoon,” NASA said. “Because the orbit of the moon is not a perfect circle, the moon is sometimes closer to the Earth than at other times during its orbit.”
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Ilana MacDonald, a strategist for the Dunlap Institute for Astronomy and Astrophysics, told CTV News Toronto a blue moon happens when there are two full moons in the same month.
“Anywhere you can see the southern sky,” MacDonald said. “Like everything, the moon rises in the east and sets in the west – at least if you’re in the Northern Hemisphere – and it would be going across the southern part of the sky.”
 

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NASA decides to keep 2 astronauts in space until February, nixes return on troubled Boeing capsule
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Marcia Dunn
Published Aug 24, 2024 • Last updated 8 hours ago • 5 minute read

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — NASA decided Saturday it’s too risky to bring two astronauts back to Earth in Boeing’s troubled new capsule, and they’ll have to wait until next year for a ride home with SpaceX. What should have been a weeklong test flight for the pair will now last more than eight months.


The seasoned pilots have been stuck at the International Space Station since the beginning of June. A cascade of vexing thruster failures and helium leaks in the new capsule marred their trip to the space station, and they ended up in a holding pattern as engineers conducted tests and debated what to do about the flight back.

After almost three months, the decision finally came down from NASA’s highest ranks on Saturday. Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams will come back in a SpaceX capsule in February. Their empty Starliner capsule will undock in early September and attempt to return on autopilot with a touchdown in the New Mexico desert.

As Starliner’s test pilots, the pair should have overseen this critical last leg of the journey.


“A test flight by nature is neither safe nor routine,” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. The decision “is a result of a commitment to safety.”

Nelson said lessons learned from NASA’s two space shuttle accidents played a role. This time, he noted, open dialogue was encouraged rather than crushed.

“This has not been an easy decision, but it is absolutely the right one,” added Jim Free, NASA’s associate administrator.

It was a blow to Boeing, adding to the safety concerns plaguing the company on its airplane side. Boeing had counted on Starliner’s first crew trip to revive the troubled spacecraft program after years of delays and ballooning costs. The company had insisted Starliner was safe based on all the recent thruster tests both in space and on the ground.


Boeing did not participate in Saturday’s news conference by NASA, but released a statement: “Boeing continues to focus, first and foremost, on the safety of the crew and spacecraft.” The company said it is preparing the spacecraft “for a safe and successful return.”

Rand Corp.’s Jan Osburg, a senior engineer who specializes in aerospace and defense, said NASA made the right choice. “But the U.S. is still left with egg on its face due to the Starliner design issues that should have been caught earlier.”

Wilmore, 61, and Williams, 58, are both retired Navy captains with previous long-duration spaceflight experience. Before their June 5 launch from Cape Canaveral, Wilmore and Williams said their families bought into the uncertainty and stress of their professional careers decades ago.


During their lone orbital news conference last month, the astronauts said they had trust in the thruster testing being conducted. They had no complaints, they added, and enjoyed pitching in with space station work.

Wilmore’s wife, Deanna, said she and their daughters, along with family and friends, “were praying for a safe return on whatever spacecraft that may be.” While they are disappointed that he will be away longer, “we know that it’s the Lord’s plan,” she said via text.

Flight operations director Norm Knight said he talked to the astronauts Saturday and they fully support the decision to postpone their return.

There were few options.

The SpaceX capsule currently parked at the space station is reserved for the four residents who have been there since March. They will return in late September, their routine six-month stay extended a month by the Starliner dilemma. NASA said it would be unsafe to squeeze two more into the capsule, except in an emergency.


The docked Russian Soyuz capsule is even tighter, capable of flying only three — two of them Russians wrapping up a yearlong stint.

So Wilmore and Williams will wait for SpaceX’s next taxi flight. It’s due to launch in late September with two astronauts instead of the usual four. NASA is yanking two to make room for Wilmore and Williams on the return flight in late February.

NASA said no serious consideration was given to asking SpaceX for a quick stand-alone rescue. Last year, the Russian Space Agency had to rush up a replacement Soyuz capsule for three men whose original craft was damaged by space junk. The switch pushed their six-month mission to just over a year.

Former Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield, applauded the decision via X: “Good to err on the side of caution for astronaut lives.” Long missions are “what astronauts work their entire career for. I’d take it in a heartbeat!”


Starliner’s woes began long before its latest flight.

Bad software fouled the first test flight without a crew in 2019, prompting a do-over in 2022. Then parachute and other issues cropped up, including a helium leak in the capsule’s propellant system that nixed a launch attempt in May. The leak eventually was deemed to be isolated and small enough to pose no concern. But more leaks sprouted following liftoff, and five thrusters also failed.

All but one of those small thrusters restarted in flight. But engineers were perplexed by ground testing that showed a thruster seal swelling and obstructing a propellant line. They theorized the seals in orbit may have expanded and then reverted to their normal size. Officials said the results marked the turning point, as their concerns grew.


With all the uncertainty about how the thrusters might perform, “There was too much risk for the crew,” Steve Stich, NASA’s commercial crew program manager, told reporters.

These 28 thrusters are vital. Besides needed for space station rendezvous, they keep the capsule pointed in the right direction at flight’s end as bigger engines steer the craft out of orbit. Coming in crooked could result in catastrophe.

With the Columbia disaster still fresh in many minds — the shuttle broke apart during reentry in 2003, killing all seven aboard _ NASA made an extra effort to embrace open debate over Starliner’s return capability.

Despite Saturday’s decision, NASA isn’t giving up on Boeing. Nelson said he is “100%” certain that Starliner will fly again.

NASA went into its commercial crew program a decade ago wanting two competing U.S. companies ferrying astronauts in the post-shuttle era. Boeing won the bigger contract: more than $4 billion, compared with SpaceX’s $2.6 billion.

With station supply runs already under its belt, SpaceX aced its first of now nine astronaut flights in 2020, while Boeing got bogged down in design flaws that set the company back more than $1 billion. NASA officials still hold out hope that Starliner’s problems can be corrected in time for another crew flight in another year or so.
 

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FAA grounds SpaceX after rocket falls over in flames at landing
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Marcia Dunn
Published Aug 28, 2024 • 1 minute read

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This still image taken from a SpaceX video shows the first stage booster of SpaceX's Falcon 9 tilting and blowing up upon landing onto the droneship off the Florida coast on August 28, 2024.
SpaceX launches are on hold after a booster rocket toppled over in flames while landing Wednesday.


The Federal Aviation Administration grounded the company’s Falcon 9 rockets and ordered an investigation following the predawn accident off the Florida coast. No injuries or public damage were reported.

It’s too early to know how much impact this will have on SpaceX’s upcoming crew flights, one private and the other for NASA. A billionaire’s chartered flight was delayed just a few hours earlier because of a poor weather forecast.

The rocket blasted off from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station and got all 21 Starlink internet satellites to orbit. But the first-stage booster fell over in a fireball moments after landing on an ocean platform, the first such accident in years. It was the 23rd time this particular booster had launched, a recycling record for SpaceX.

The FAA said it must approve SpaceX’s accident findings and corrective action before the company can resume Falcon 9 launches. A launch from California with more Starlinks was immediately called off following the accident.

Besides the private spaceflight awaiting liftoff from Florida’s Kennedy Space Center, SpaceX is due to launch a pair of astronauts for NASA late next month. Two seats will be set aside for the two astronauts who launched in June aboard Boeing’s new Starliner capsule, deemed unsafe by NASA for their return.
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FAA grounds SpaceX after rocket falls over in flames at landing
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Marcia Dunn
Published Aug 28, 2024 • 1 minute read

booster of SpaceX's Falcon 9 tilting and blowing up
This still image taken from a SpaceX video shows the first stage booster of SpaceX's Falcon 9 tilting and blowing up upon landing onto the droneship off the Florida coast on August 28, 2024.
SpaceX launches are on hold after a booster rocket toppled over in flames while landing Wednesday.


The Federal Aviation Administration grounded the company’s Falcon 9 rockets and ordered an investigation following the predawn accident off the Florida coast. No injuries or public damage were reported.

It’s too early to know how much impact this will have on SpaceX’s upcoming crew flights, one private and the other for NASA. A billionaire’s chartered flight was delayed just a few hours earlier because of a poor weather forecast.

The rocket blasted off from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station and got all 21 Starlink internet satellites to orbit. But the first-stage booster fell over in a fireball moments after landing on an ocean platform, the first such accident in years. It was the 23rd time this particular booster had launched, a recycling record for SpaceX.

The FAA said it must approve SpaceX’s accident findings and corrective action before the company can resume Falcon 9 launches. A launch from California with more Starlinks was immediately called off following the accident.

Besides the private spaceflight awaiting liftoff from Florida’s Kennedy Space Center, SpaceX is due to launch a pair of astronauts for NASA late next month. Two seats will be set aside for the two astronauts who launched in June aboard Boeing’s new Starliner capsule, deemed unsafe by NASA for their return.
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Until we invent safe spacecraft like the starship Enterprise and continue to launch humans and other objects into space on rockets then these things will happen every now and then.

The first starship Enterprise will be launched in 2245, so we're still in primitive space travel times.
 

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Until we invent safe spacecraft like the starship Enterprise and continue to launch humans and other objects into space on rockets then these things will happen every now and then.

The first starship Enterprise will be launched in 2245, so we're still in primitive space travel times.
We destroyed 6 or 7 of the Starship Enterprises too.
 

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We destroyed 6 or 7 of the Starship Enterprises too.

Would you rather take off from Earth on the Enterprise or on a rocket?

For me, the Enterprise would be a doddle, but I don't fancy going to space on a rocket. I've seen the Challenger footage many times through my life.
 

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Would you rather take off from Earth on the Enterprise or on a rocket?

For me, the Enterprise would be a doddle, but I don't fancy going to space on a rocket. I've seen the Challenger footage many times through my life.
The Enterprise never took off. It was built in space dock. To get on it you would scramble your being into little energy beams and get theoretically reassembled but actually copied and killed. I think a rocket is a better option.
 

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Would you rather take off from Earth on the Enterprise or on a rocket?

For me, the Enterprise would be a doddle, but I don't fancy going to space on a rocket. I've seen the Challenger footage many times through my life.
Definitely a rocket. The only way the Enterprise could land on a planet would be to crash. Better to use the transporter or a shuttlecraft.
 
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Until we invent safe spacecraft like the starship Enterprise and continue to launch humans and other objects into space on rockets then these things will happen every now and then.

The first starship Enterprise will be launched in 2245, so we're still in primitive space travel times.
Better quit driving a car. These things crash and burn daily, even without the help of incompetent drivers.
 

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NASA cuts 2 from next SpaceX flight to make room for astronauts stuck at space station
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Published Aug 30, 2024 • 1 minute read

NASA on Friday cut two astronauts from the next crew to make room on the return trip for the two stuck at the International Space Station.


NASA’s Nick Hague and Russian Aleksandr Gorbunov will launch in September aboard a SpaceX rocket for the orbiting laboratory. The duo will return with Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore in February. NASA decided it’s too risky for Williams and Wilmore to fly home in their Boeing Starliner capsule, marred by thruster troubles and helium leaks.

Bumped from the SpaceX flight: NASA astronauts Zena Cardman and Stephanie Wilson. NASA said they could fly on future missions.

The space agency said it took into account spaceflight experience and other factors in making the decision.

After the shuttles retired, the U.S. relied on Russia to ferry crews to the space station until SpaceX began taking astronauts in 2020. The two countries have continued to trade seats. Next month, NASA’s Don Pettit will be launching to the space station while NASA’s Tracy Dyson will be returning to Earth on Russian capsules.

NASA turned to private businesses a decade ago, wanting two competing U.S. companies ferrying astronauts in the post-shuttle era.

Williams and Wilmore were Boeing’s first crew, arriving at the space station in June for what was supposed to be a weeklong stay. Their capsule will return empty as early as next Friday, aiming for a touchdown in the New Mexico desert.
 

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Boeing will fly its empty capsule back to Earth soon. Two NASA astronauts will stay behind
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Published Sep 04, 2024 • 3 minute read

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This photo provided by NASA shows Boeing's Starliner spacecraft which launched astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams to the International Space Station docked to the Harmony module's forward port on July 3, 2024, seen from a window on the SpaceX Dragon Endeavour spacecraft docked to the adjacent port. (NASA via AP) THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) — Boeing will attempt to return its problem-plagued capsule from the International Space Station later this week — with empty seats.


NASA said Wednesday that everything is on track for the Starliner capsule to undock from the space station Friday evening. The fully automated capsule will aim for a touchdown in New Mexico’s White Sands Missile Range six hours later.

NASA’s two stuck astronauts who flew up on Starliner will remain behind at the orbiting lab. They’ll ride home with SpaceX in February, eight months after launching on what should have been a weeklong test flight. Thruster trouble and helium leaks kept delaying their return until NASA decided that it was too risky for them to accompany Starliner back as originally planned.

“It’s been a journey to get here and we’re excited to have Starliner return,” said NASA’s commercial crew program manager Steve Stich.


NASA’s Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams will close the hatches between Starliner and the space station on Thursday. They are now considered full-time station crew members along with the seven others on board, helping with experiments and maintenance, and ramping up their exercise to keep their bones and muscles strong during their prolonged exposure to weightlessness.

To make room for them on SpaceX’s next taxi flight, the Dragon capsule will launch with two astronauts instead of the usual four. Two were cut late last week from the six-month expedition, which is due to blast off in late September. Boeing has to free up the parking place for SpaceX’s arrival.

Boeing encountered serious flaws with Starliner long before its June 5 liftoff on the long-delayed astronaut demo.


Starliner’s first test flight went so poorly in 2019 — the capsule never reached the space station because of software errors _ that the mission was repeated three years later. More problems surfaced, resulting in even more delays and more than $1 billion in repairs.

The capsule had suffered multiple thruster failures and propulsion-system helium leaks by the time it pulled up at the space station after launch. Boeing conducted extensive thruster tests in space and on the ground, and contended the capsule could safely bring the astronauts back. But NASA disagreed, setting the complex ride swap in motion.

Starliner will make a faster, simpler getaway than planned, using springs to push away from the space station and then short thruster firings to gradually increase the distance. The original plan called for an hour of dallying near the station, mostly for picture-taking; that was cut to 20 or so minutes to reduce the stress on the capsule’s thrusters and keep the station safe.


Additional test firings of Starliner’s 28 thrusters are planned before the all-important descent from orbit. Engineers want to learn as much as they can since the thrusters won’t return to Earth; the section containing them will be ditched before the capsule reenters.

The stuck astronauts — retired Navy captains — have lived on the space station before and settled in just fine, according to NASA officials. Even though their mission focus has changed, “they’re just as dedicated for the success of human spaceflight going forward,” flight director Anthony Vareha said.

Their blue Boeing spacesuits will return with the capsule, along with some old station equipment.

NASA hired Boeing and SpaceX a decade ago to ferry its astronauts to and from the space station after its shuttles retired. SpaceX accomplished the feat in 2020 and has since launched nine crews for NASA and four for private customers.

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