Re: RE: Something is Wrong wi
Only by a very generous interpretation of "clearly." The reference to Franco, for instance, in the version I have is "From Castelfranco the assembly comes..." That looks like a place name to me. I didn't bother to look up others, but I doubt they're any more precise than that. I know there's supposedly a reference to Hitler somewhere, but the name given by Nostradamus is actually Hister. If you think it's legitimate to substitute letters and change their order whenever you feel like it, just to get meaning out of the old boy's verses, I submit you're just making stuff up.
No you don't. I have no such fear. I presume that refers to me, as it closely follows your quoting me. I think religion is a fraud and the Bible is mythology. I'm an atheist.
No. I know of no evidence that would justify such beliefs.
There's no mention of 57 years there, where do you get that from? There's also no mention of 70 years, just an event that happens 70 times. The last two lines might refer to any number of things, like the Protestant reformation, or the general decline of the church's influence over the last few centuries. That's typical of Nostradamus' little verses: they can be interpreted to fit any number of events.
Sounds like pretty much anytime in the last 400 years to me.
More generally now, the first link you provide, to www.nostradamus.org, starts out by claiming the standard references are fakes, but they have Nostradamus' real writings, authenticated by some anonymous expert. I couldn't find a name or credentials anywhere. I'm not inclined to take that seriously.
At the second link, users.cybercity.dk, the first sentence on the page is "Nostradamus has been mostly wrong." This supports your position how?
At one of those sites is an attempt to interpret X.72 as a reference to Osama bin Laden, because the second line of X.72 says "A great king of Terror comes from the sky." The first line refers to the seventh month of 1999, which is linked to bin Laden being born under the sign of Leo. Another part of it refers to Mongols, which bin Laden most assuredly is not, but that one's wiggled around by putting him in what was once Mongol territory.
And at the third link is that tenuous reference to General Franco I started out talking about. After that, it didn't seem worth my while to check out any of your other references, it seemed likely they're of similar quality and relevance.
Everything I've seen so far supports my initial point: Nostradamus' much vaunted predictions are so vague and obscure you can fit any number of events to them, and he hasn't verifiably predicted anything, they're rationalizations after the fact.
You true believers need better B.S. detectors.
Only by a very generous interpretation of "clearly." The reference to Franco, for instance, in the version I have is "From Castelfranco the assembly comes..." That looks like a place name to me. I didn't bother to look up others, but I doubt they're any more precise than that. I know there's supposedly a reference to Hitler somewhere, but the name given by Nostradamus is actually Hister. If you think it's legitimate to substitute letters and change their order whenever you feel like it, just to get meaning out of the old boy's verses, I submit you're just making stuff up.
No you don't. I have no such fear. I presume that refers to me, as it closely follows your quoting me. I think religion is a fraud and the Bible is mythology. I'm an atheist.
No. I know of no evidence that would justify such beliefs.
There's no mention of 57 years there, where do you get that from? There's also no mention of 70 years, just an event that happens 70 times. The last two lines might refer to any number of things, like the Protestant reformation, or the general decline of the church's influence over the last few centuries. That's typical of Nostradamus' little verses: they can be interpreted to fit any number of events.
Sounds like pretty much anytime in the last 400 years to me.
More generally now, the first link you provide, to www.nostradamus.org, starts out by claiming the standard references are fakes, but they have Nostradamus' real writings, authenticated by some anonymous expert. I couldn't find a name or credentials anywhere. I'm not inclined to take that seriously.
At the second link, users.cybercity.dk, the first sentence on the page is "Nostradamus has been mostly wrong." This supports your position how?
At one of those sites is an attempt to interpret X.72 as a reference to Osama bin Laden, because the second line of X.72 says "A great king of Terror comes from the sky." The first line refers to the seventh month of 1999, which is linked to bin Laden being born under the sign of Leo. Another part of it refers to Mongols, which bin Laden most assuredly is not, but that one's wiggled around by putting him in what was once Mongol territory.
And at the third link is that tenuous reference to General Franco I started out talking about. After that, it didn't seem worth my while to check out any of your other references, it seemed likely they're of similar quality and relevance.
Everything I've seen so far supports my initial point: Nostradamus' much vaunted predictions are so vague and obscure you can fit any number of events to them, and he hasn't verifiably predicted anything, they're rationalizations after the fact.
You true believers need better B.S. detectors.