Solving the garbage problem

petros

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Everything reuseable should be reused.
Everything recycleable should be recycled.
Everything compostable should be composted.
Anything that is left over that is burnable, should be burned as fuel.
With or without a nat gas co-jet? Trash doesn't burn all that well and is extremely toxic when burned.

It needs to be carbolized which is what the young lady in Australia did turning the trash to fertilizer.

The idea of reuse, recycle, recondition and compost is great but it's time as consumers we have to add REJECT if not reuseable, recyclable, reconditionable or compostable.
 

GreenFish66

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Need more garbage collectors from here to space and back again

Read in the t.o star today about a homeless guy who collects garbage..Now that's the idea...Uses collected money to pay 4 rent...Here's the idea...Should get hired on an hourly wage.There's someone with a purpose and meaning....Garbage collectors from here to space and back again is always a good investment..Hats off to you sir.
 

CDNBear

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Penn & Teller:Bullsh!t
Being informed by a couple of comedians?

That explains your opinions on a few topics Scott.

Unfortunately, they would be wrong. PET1's are recycled into packaging and plastic lumber, HTP2/3/4's are shipped overseas, Japan mostly. Where it's shredded, pelletized and then used in all sorts of things like clothing, toys, etc.

Yep, to be sure it is more costly and definitely more energy dependent to do so. But then again, it isn't being put into the ground. Sure it's real awesome that Penn & Teller and a specialist in the field claim that we're not running out of land to fill. But then again that really isn't the point either. Why would we want to continue to fill land that can be used for a litany of more positive uses?

This is a no brain'r, anyone that says anything to the contrary should have their heads examined. Such products as plastic lumber, make significant reduction in the deforestation. As products such as that become more mainstream, you will see the positive impact on the environment.

Just as it's taking decades to see the hard work and diligence of several originizations, to take effect on the water quality of the Great Lakes. So will it take a few decades for the impact of what ground work is being laid out in the here and now with the 3R programs.

The 'garbage' problem is easy to solve.

Everything reuseable should be reused.
Everything recycleable should be recycled.
Everything compostable should be composted.
Anything that is left over that is burnable, should be burned as fuel.

If there are no currently available recycling facilities (such as here in NB, our only glass plant closed, so glass isn't economically recyclable), the land fills should segregate products - if one cell of the landfill is filled with glass, then in future it can be recovered if the economics dictate. Same for plastics - all plastics that are not presently recycled should be in one area. Then it could be 'mined' later.
That's an awesome idea TP. In fact, it is done just like that, in part.

Where SCB used to work, they would stock pile certain materials, and wait until the market value rose to a profitable level and then sell it. Glass is always a stink commodity though. It doesn't have a huge recyling market.
 

CDNBear

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Awe, you still got your panties in a twist CDNBear?
Nope, just like punching great big holes in stupid peoples asinine opinions...



It rocks...;-)

I see you couldn't even attempt to debate the facts and topic at hand. Seems to be common theme among your posts.
 

Unforgiven

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Being informed by a couple of comedians?

That explains your opinions on a few topics Scott.

Unfortunately, they would be wrong. PET1's are recycled into packaging and plastic lumber, HTP2/3/4's are shipped overseas, Japan mostly. Where it's shredded, pelletized and then used in all sorts of things like clothing, toys, etc.

Yep, to be sure it is more costly and definitely more energy dependent to do so. But then again, it isn't being put into the ground. Sure it's real awesome that Penn & Teller and a specialist in the field claim that we're not running out of land to fill. But then again that really isn't the point either. Why would we want to continue to fill land that can be used for a litany of more positive uses?

This is a no brain'r, anyone that says anything to the contrary should have their heads examined. Such products as plastic lumber, make significant reduction in the deforestation. As products such as that become more mainstream, you will see the positive impact on the environment.

Just as it's taking decades to see the hard work and diligence of several originizations, to take effect on the water quality of the Great Lakes. So will it take a few decades for the impact of what ground work is being laid out in the here and now with the 3R programs.

That's an awesome idea TP. In fact, it is done just like that, in part.

Where SCB used to work, they would stock pile certain materials, and wait until the market value rose to a profitable level and then sell it. Glass is always a stink commodity though. It doesn't have a huge recyling market.

While I can agree with most of what you say here, I have to ask what happens when plastic lumber burns and what other precautions need be taken when emergency services respond? Should this become common practice, what would the impact be on an area that has this much petrochemical making it's way into the ground with the water and other chemical retardants used to extinguish it?
 

CDNBear

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While I can agree with most of what you say here, I have to ask what happens when plastic lumber burns and what other precautions need be taken when emergency services respond? Should this become common practice, what would the impact be on an area that has this much petrochemical making it's way into the ground with the water and other chemical retardants used to extinguish it?
Beats me Unf...I just know how gets to become lumber cuz of SCB. After that, you're on your own, lol.
 

Risus

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Just had a brain wave!!!!!!! Not sure how or if this would "fly", but I'm wondering if we couldn't fence and cultivate our land fill areas and populate them with pigs and goats, which would consume a lot of the garbage, along with grains and grasses planted giving them a more or less balanced diet- that way the waste could be productively disposed of and converted into meat. The idea would probably need a little refining. Any ideas?

There is nothing new with that idea. Moncton, N.B. for example, had a piggery back in the 60s to eat the 'wet garbage' from the city.
 

JLM

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There is nothing new with that idea. Moncton, N.B. for example, had a piggery back in the 60s to eat the 'wet garbage' from the city.

That's good information. Did they keep any records? Why was it stopped? Were there problems?
 

Scott Free

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Nope, just like punching great big holes in stupid peoples asinine opinions...



It rocks...;-)

I see you couldn't even attempt to debate the facts and topic at hand. Seems to be common theme among your posts.

What is there to debate?

I put forward some evidence and you just hurled insults.

But that's all I expected from you. :lol: