Solar and Wind - Carbon Neutral Canada
- Thread starter Karlin
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So you don't have it. That's fine if you don't, no need to get all flustered. Cliffy hardly ever backs his ish up either so don't sweat it.
No f*cking shit Sherlock. What the hell do you think I've been saying elsewhere in here? I've stated numerous times in this very forum that natgas is methane. Even in posts responding to YOU!!
Perhaps you should pay better attention to what people post if you're going to reply to them.
"Suggested". So of the three suggestions, one involves burning carbon warehouses like wood, plant material. (Or you can just burn actual shit). One involves fracking, unless you're lucky enough to live in a region that has an accessible geo-thermal vent. And the third one is solar. If you look at a solar radiance map of Canada it becomes quote apparent that there's only one region in the entire country that would be suitable for solar power. And molten salt storage doesn't do dick when it's been snowing and heavily overcast for a week. Or did you forget about this thing we have called 'winter'?
Oh and uh by the by, geo-thermal is NOT renewable. Those wells do run dry eventually. Iceland's geo-thermal facility was built at cost of something like $10 billion and it dried out in less than a decade. There's another dried up one somewhere in the US they've been trying to breathe life back into. Don't know if they've succeeded in making it viable yet.
That leaves wind. Unfortunately wind power takes up mass amounts of space for little payoff. In Ontario this has involved lopping down stands of trees (not very green for so-called "green" energy) as well as using up precious farmland which is some of the best in the world.
Again in Ontario, the province's wind capacity is a little more than half that of the Bruce Nuclear Plant. Bruce NPP sits on roughly 2 sq km of land. The wind farms take up at least ten times that land space. If we want to meet increasing demand for power every year, never mind replacing the "traditional" power supplies we already have, we're gonna run out of space in a surprisingly short period of time. And despite what your links state, the electrical engineers I've either spoken to or heard speak have all stated that mating natags to wind power makes the gas plants less efficient. When mated to traditional power supplies, gas plants provide a quick way to meet increasing and decreasing demand throughout the day. With wind power, those gas plants not only have to help provide base-load generation and meet increasing/decreasing demand, they are also continually adjusted to match the vagaries of wind. Wind doesn't blow at the same speed all day long. A perfect comparison would be the difference between driving your car on the highway and driving it in the city.
As for the "detailed computer simulations", well we've all seen just how unreliable those can be when it comes to predicting the future.
Yeah, and extracting it releases methane. This is your original quote. If you want to be understood then you have the write more coherently.
As for your attempts to refute my post I would say that is a complete fail considering that the number of renewable projects around the world continue to increase. Apparently the people building them don't share your concerns.