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jimmoyer

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Quit smoking July 12.

Up to 40 pushups. Only 8 L-shaped chin ups. 50 reps of 35lb dumbbells.

When a smoker goes under stress, nicotine immediately leaves
his brain and leaves his blood and goes into the urine. And this is why
smokers feel a calming effect, but it is only alleviating a sudden
withdrawal of nicotine.

Hypnosis.

It's what's for dinner.
 

jimmoyer

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I'm hypnotized.......

oooh yeah...

I found we smokers like a little kickstart once every
few hours, having that nicotine in the nick of time
to sharpen the thoughts, so I thought I'd drop and do
40 pushups and get a similar kick.
 

Renée

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Starbucks Frappacino does that for me. Exercise too sometimes but Starbucks is much more consistent. :p

good luck to you-
 

The conductor

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Congrads!! I quit over a year ago. I have taken up cooking instead of eating all the time. I am really good at cooking now but let everybody else eat.
 

#juan

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Anyone who quits smoking

has my moral support at least. I was smoking two and a half packs a day when I quit almost twenty years ago. When I finally did quit, nobody believed me because I had had so many false starts before. Hang in there Jim. If you get past twenty days, you got it made.
 

Colpy

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It is REALLY tough..........I quit cold turkey (about two packs a day), stayed off for over 5 years, got started again, smoked 6 months, quit again for 6 months started again, smoked six months, been off them since May 1.

The problem is I am a smoker. I once took a test that was intended to show why you smoked.......I got ALL the reasons....you know, as a social thing, as a reward, as a contemplative thing, as a prop, you name it.

It also doesn't help that 70% of the guys in my work smoke......it is the kind of guy the job attracts.......macho man risk takers.

Anyway, good luck with the non-smoking thing, that is for sure.

And don't be tempted by an occassional cigar, that's what caught me after 5 years off.......
 

athabaska

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Congrats. I've never smoked. Never even tried it as a kid.

I can't empathize with you on the smoking but do know that getting and keeping in shape is a positive addiction. Just vary it a bit by going for a brisk walk, light jog, etc.

I don't know your age but I see the negative effects of smoking show up on my friends and others as they push the 50 year mark. One of my backpacking buddies always could keep up with me on mountain treks, etc. then BAM...he started to wheeze a lot after strenuous hikes. He went to the Doc and learned he had lost over 45% of his lung capacity. He never knew it and it's still deteriorating even though it prompted him to quit cold turkey.
 

jimmoyer

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I quit July 12, the day Lebanon went to total crap.

I heartily recommend hypnosis, not cold turkey.
And repeat hypnosis sessions once every 30 days, but I'm beyond
60 days and haven't done another session. In its place, I read
about it, and keep excercising to get that occassional dopamine
high.

In a sense both hypnosis and cold turkey
are the same, except one involves
an unusual way of thinking.

We are not rational beings. It is our subconscious
that requires immediate succor, immediate response
to its infantile needs.

Check out the fact that another subterranean level
of subconscious is working when you don't remember
the scenery on the way home because your thoughts
were about the job or about the family.

You might ask yourself who drove you home ??
 

#juan

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After twenty years the little pangs are still there occasionally. Every once in a while I see someone enjoying a cigarette with a cup of coffee, and a brief, but controllable, urge comes over me to attack that person and steal his cigarette. Most of the time I can't stand the smell of the damn things.
 

jimmoyer

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When the hypnotist intoned over and over again
NO MORE, NO MORE, NO MORE and kept saying
NO MORE, NO MORE, NO MORE, and on and on,
tears streamed down my face, sad for the harm and
evil it does.

When he asked us to open our eyes after counting
the cheap proverbial 1-2-3, he asked us how long
we thought he'd been talking.

We all thought it was 10-15 minutes.

He informed us he was talking to us for over an hour
and a half.

He told us just closing our eyes while conscious
loses our sense of time.
 

Renée

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After twenty years the little pangs are still there occasionally. Every once in a while I see someone enjoying a cigarette with a cup of coffee, and a brief, but controllable, urge comes over me to attack that person and steal his cigarette. Most of the time I can't stand the smell of the damn things.

Hmmmm... That reminds me of having quit eating meat and the like. Occasionally I visualize what it would be like to have some nice fried chicken or a hamburger. But for a couple of weeks those thoughts hadn't really gone away so I went on and indulged w/a delicious fried chicken patty. I was thinking maybe it was my body craving protein or something.....now I'm wondering if it's just my body longing for the good old days similar to what you mentioned w/the smoking. W/food I think it's harder to be sure.
 

jimmoyer

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It is interesting how one can handle a craving.

Time your craving.

While in the midst of a craving you will have no sense
of time. IN fact your yearning will seem endless.

Just as an experiment check your watch.

Maybe even a bunch of cravings will come at you
one after another until something distracts your
attention elsewhere.

Thank god we all have a little ADD (attention deficit)
in us.
 

Sassylassie

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Pist should we start a poll on how much weight Jim's gained. I say 9 pounds. The winner gets to take Jim to MikyD's. Quarter pounders or a big Mac.

Jim congrats young man.
 

jimmoyer

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Kiwi Fruit.

Google it.

The way they praise it, you'd think the Big Drug
Companies could make a fortune if they created
a pill that does what Kiwi fruit does.

I eat 3 to 5 kiwi a day.

5' 11, 184 lbs, fully clothed, and before taking
a crap on the throne.
 

Sassylassie

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Manda you probley inhale more cancer causing fumes from cars than what you inhale from your cigs lass.

Jim, opps sorry you are not over weight not that I implied ya were. Of course this is the internet and you could be 5/6 and 320 also. Just kidding.
 

jimmoyer

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LOL Sassy !!!

MANDA POSTED:
I still smoke, don't want to, but don't have the will power to quit yet. I'll get there. Funny thing is that I don't smoke very much, but I really seem to feel I need those 7-10 a day.
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http://whyquit.com/joel/Joel_01_13_gradual_withdrawal.html


Quitting by the gradual withdrawal method. I discuss this method quite extensively in my seminars. I always tell how if there is anyone attending who knows a smoker who they really despise they should actively encourage them to follow the gradual withdrawal "cut down" approach. They should call them up ever day and tell them to just get rid of one cigarette. Meaning, if they usually smoke 40 a day, just smoke 39 on the first day of the attempt to quit. The next day they should be encouraged to smoke only 38 then 37 the next day and so on. Then the seminar participant should call these people every day to congratulate them and encourage them to continue. I must reemphasize, this should only be done to a smoker you really despise.

You see, most smokers will agree to this approach. It sounds so easy to just smoke one less each day. Thirty-nine cigarettes to a two pack a day smoker seems like nothing. The trick is to convince the person that you are only trying to help them. For the first week or two the one downside is you have to pretend to like the person and you have to talk to them every day. They won’t whine too bad either. When they are down to 30 from 40, they may start to complain a little. You really won’t be having fun yet. When the payoff comes is about three weeks into scam. Now you've got them to less than half their normal amount. They are in moderate withdrawal all the time.

A month into the approach you’ve got them into pretty major withdrawal. But be persistent. Call them and tell them how great they are doing and how proud you are of them. When they are in their 35th to 39th day, you have pulled off a major coup. This poor person is in peak withdrawal, suffering miserably and having absolutely nothing to show for it. They are no closer to ending withdrawal than the day you started the process. They are in chronic withdrawal, not treating him or herself to one or two a day, but actually depriving him or herself of 35 to 40 per day.

If you want to go in for the kill, when you got them down to zero, tell them don’t worry if things get tough, just take a puff every once in a while. If you can get them to fall for this, taking one puff every third day, they will remain in withdrawal forever. Did I mention you really should despise this person to do this to them? It is probably the cruelest practical joke that you could ever pull on anyone. You will undercut their chance to quit, make them suffer immeasurably and likely they will at some point throw in the towel, return to smoking, have such fear of quitting because of what they went through cutting down, that they will continue to smoke until it kills them. Like I said, you better really despise this person.

Hopefully there is no one you despise that much to do this to them. I hope nobody despises themselves enough to do this to themselves. Quitting cold turkey may be hard but quitting by this withdrawal technique is close to impossible. If you have a choice between hard and close to impossible, go for hard. You will have something to show at the end of a hard process, but probably nothing but misery at the end of a close to impossible approach. Quit cold and in 72 hours it eases up. Cut down and it will basically get progressively worse for weeks, months, years if you let it.

I should mention, this is not a new technique. It has been around for decades. Talk to every long-term ex-smoker you know. Try to find one person who successfully used the cut down approach, gradually reducing to eventual zero over weeks or months. You will be hard pressed to find even one person who fits this bill. One other perspective that should help you see the flaw in the approach. Look at people here who had once quit for months or years and then relapsed. One day, after such a long time period, they take a drag and are smoking again. If one puff can do this after years or decades, guess what it will do after days or hours of being smoke free. It puts the smoker back to square one. All that any ex-smoker has to do to avoid relapse or chronic withdrawal is to - NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!