I think Obamacare is here to stay. However, Obamacare creates winners and losers. As a result Obamacare can be used as a political issue to motivate the losers to go to the polls to punish the Left.
Smile! You’ve Got Socialized Healthcare!
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I think what he's hinting at is, "left" and "right" are stupid terms which I'm inclined to agree with! -
I think what he's hinting at is, "left" and "right" are stupid terms which I'm inclined to agree with! -
That's one of the two hints. First, I don't see how the seating arrangement in the French Assembly in 1798 has much relevance to modern politics. Second, the allegedly "left" Democrats are considerably to the right of just about every "right" party in the rest of the world.
The U.S. has no significant "left." We have the center-right Democrats and the far-right Republicans.
I'm not alluding to "socialism." I don't like Obamacare. It has three jobs: provide universal coverage, control costs, and produce comparable outcomes to the rest of the developed world. It's designed to fail on 1 and 2, and may or may not do 3 (which we already had anyway).So what you are alluding to is Socialism isn't "big" in the U.S. -
That's funny! You've been drinking way to much Canadian Kool-Aid.
Folks in my Blue-State will out left the best of em!
Mebbe Wally can arrange to have Canadian style health care imported here to the States. Why else would a Canadian like him trouble himself with our health care needs?
You want to wait 9 months for a hip replacement becuz that's what's comin yer way with BHOCARE.
VDH skewers architect of BHOcare death panels.
Should We Hope to Die at 75? | National Review Online
Should We Hope to Die at 75? | National Review Online
Obamacare to save U.S. hospitals $5.7 bln in uncompensated care
By David Morgan and Roberta Rampton
WASHINGTON, Sept 24 (Reuters) - The Obama administration on Wednesday said it expects expanded health coverage under the Affordable Care Act to save U.S. hospitals $5.7 billion this year on the cost of caring for uninsured Americans.
A report by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said nearly three-quarters of the savings, $4.2 billion, would occur in states that have opted to expand the Medicaid healthcare program for the poor as part of the law, popularly known as Obamacare.
The data may help hospitals press for Medicaid expansion in the 23 states whose governors have not agreed to it, said Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell.
"We're now at a phase where we're actually going to start seeing the benefits" of expansion, Burwell told reporters. "It's actually showing that this provides benefits to states."
Obamacare to save U.S. hospitals $5.7 bln in uncompensated care -govt
ACA = working every day!
By David Morgan and Roberta Rampton
WASHINGTON, Sept 24 (Reuters) - The Obama administration on Wednesday said it expects expanded health coverage under the Affordable Care Act to save U.S. hospitals $5.7 billion this year on the cost of caring for uninsured Americans.
A report by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said nearly three-quarters of the savings, $4.2 billion, would occur in states that have opted to expand the Medicaid healthcare program for the poor as part of the law, popularly known as Obamacare.
The data may help hospitals press for Medicaid expansion in the 23 states whose governors have not agreed to it, said Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell.
"We're now at a phase where we're actually going to start seeing the benefits" of expansion, Burwell told reporters. "It's actually showing that this provides benefits to states."
Obamacare to save U.S. hospitals $5.7 bln in uncompensated care -govt
ACA = working every day!
And if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan!
Oh my...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...use-is-exaggerating-obamacare-coverage-gains/
New McKinsey Survey: 74% Of Obamacare Sign-Ups Were Previously Insured - Forbes
Oh my...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...use-is-exaggerating-obamacare-coverage-gains/
New McKinsey Survey: 74% Of Obamacare Sign-Ups Were Previously Insured - Forbes
Obamacare's successes hurting Republicans
The remarkable declines in the growth of healthcare spending, particularly for Medicare, are upending Republicans' anti-Obamacare, deficit fetishist attacks on Democrats, allowing Democrats to turn the table on Medicare. Remember that $716 billion lie about Obamacare and Medicare? It has no resonance anymore.
“If Republicans are thinking about being Johnny One Notes and talking about health care only, I think they are going to be surprised by how little traction they get,” says Steve Bell, senior director of economic policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center and former staff director of the Senate Budget Committee. “I do think the decline in health care costs blunts the Republican message.”
What's the issue now? The Ryan budget, with its cuts to Medicare and other social insurance programs and its Obamacare repeal, as well as Obamacare's success in reducing the growth in healthcare spending.
Now, in elections around the country, the conversation about health care economics is changing. When the Obamacare website glitches dominated headlines in the spring, it looked like the entire election would come down to Republicans' unshakable opposition to the law. Yet, Democrats have managed to use the Medicare changes called for in a budget drawn up by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to paint GOP candidates as granny-killing extremists.
"It's a hot issue," says Jeremy Funk, the communications director for Americans United for Change, a Democratic-leaning nonprofit. "If I was working on any Democratic campaign I would be going after the other side for four votes in a row on the Ryan budget. […]
Democrats have even tried to take the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office's projections about health care spending reductions and use them to reverse the narrative that Obamacare has led to higher costs in medical care.
Add in the fact that nobody's grandma's Medicare was actually cut by Obamacare and the Republican lie becomes impossible to sustain outside of the tea party. Obamacare is not just not bankrupting the country, it's saving health care money. Which gives Democrats ample opportunity to point out how unnecessary and how destructive Republican slash and burn policies are.
ACA: working real well every day.
The remarkable declines in the growth of healthcare spending, particularly for Medicare, are upending Republicans' anti-Obamacare, deficit fetishist attacks on Democrats, allowing Democrats to turn the table on Medicare. Remember that $716 billion lie about Obamacare and Medicare? It has no resonance anymore.
“If Republicans are thinking about being Johnny One Notes and talking about health care only, I think they are going to be surprised by how little traction they get,” says Steve Bell, senior director of economic policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center and former staff director of the Senate Budget Committee. “I do think the decline in health care costs blunts the Republican message.”
What's the issue now? The Ryan budget, with its cuts to Medicare and other social insurance programs and its Obamacare repeal, as well as Obamacare's success in reducing the growth in healthcare spending.
Now, in elections around the country, the conversation about health care economics is changing. When the Obamacare website glitches dominated headlines in the spring, it looked like the entire election would come down to Republicans' unshakable opposition to the law. Yet, Democrats have managed to use the Medicare changes called for in a budget drawn up by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to paint GOP candidates as granny-killing extremists.
"It's a hot issue," says Jeremy Funk, the communications director for Americans United for Change, a Democratic-leaning nonprofit. "If I was working on any Democratic campaign I would be going after the other side for four votes in a row on the Ryan budget. […]
Democrats have even tried to take the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office's projections about health care spending reductions and use them to reverse the narrative that Obamacare has led to higher costs in medical care.
Add in the fact that nobody's grandma's Medicare was actually cut by Obamacare and the Republican lie becomes impossible to sustain outside of the tea party. Obamacare is not just not bankrupting the country, it's saving health care money. Which gives Democrats ample opportunity to point out how unnecessary and how destructive Republican slash and burn policies are.
ACA: working real well every day.
Great news for you eh Gopher . This means that the republicans are going to roll over and allow the dems to retain control of both the house and the senate . Happy days are here again .Obamacare's successes hurting Republicans
The remarkable declines in the growth of healthcare spending, particularly for Medicare, are upending Republicans' anti-Obamacare, deficit fetishist attacks on Democrats, allowing Democrats to turn the table on Medicare. Remember that $716 billion lie about Obamacare and Medicare? It has no resonance anymore.
“If Republicans are thinking about being Johnny One Notes and talking about health care only, I think they are going to be surprised by how little traction they get,” says Steve Bell, senior director of economic policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center and former staff director of the Senate Budget Committee. “I do think the decline in health care costs blunts the Republican message.”
What's the issue now? The Ryan budget, with its cuts to Medicare and other social insurance programs and its Obamacare repeal, as well as Obamacare's success in reducing the growth in healthcare spending.
Now, in elections around the country, the conversation about health care economics is changing. When the Obamacare website glitches dominated headlines in the spring, it looked like the entire election would come down to Republicans' unshakable opposition to the law. Yet, Democrats have managed to use the Medicare changes called for in a budget drawn up by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to paint GOP candidates as granny-killing extremists.
"It's a hot issue," says Jeremy Funk, the communications director for Americans United for Change, a Democratic-leaning nonprofit. "If I was working on any Democratic campaign I would be going after the other side for four votes in a row on the Ryan budget. […]
Democrats have even tried to take the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office's projections about health care spending reductions and use them to reverse the narrative that Obamacare has led to higher costs in medical care.
Add in the fact that nobody's grandma's Medicare was actually cut by Obamacare and the Republican lie becomes impossible to sustain outside of the tea party. Obamacare is not just not bankrupting the country, it's saving health care money. Which gives Democrats ample opportunity to point out how unnecessary and how destructive Republican slash and burn policies are.
ACA: working real well every day.
That would be great news.
Then we would all be singing,
♪ ♫ ♬ Happy days are here again, the stars above are clear again ... ♪ ♫ ♬
Then we would all be singing,
♪ ♫ ♬ Happy days are here again, the stars above are clear again ... ♪ ♫ ♬