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You should scrutinize the issue and decide for yourself..............
 

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Heritage Puts Anti-Obamacare Billboard In Times Square After State Announces Huge Premium Drop



The message is just the latest political stunt from the organization that first developed the individual health care mandate in 1989 and later touted Obamacare-like reforms in Massachusetts.

But this strategy is particularly obtuse.

While premiums in the law’s soon-to-be opened health care exchanges have varied throughout the country, New Yorkers will experience savings of at least 50 percent as a result of Obamacare.

In 1993, the state prohibited insurers from denying coverage to individuals with pre-existing conditions and required carriers to charge “all consumers the exact same rate.” But without mechanism to compel young and healthy people to enroll in insurance, premiums dramatically increased and enrollment in the individual market “steadily diminished.” Today, just 17,000 New Yorkers “buy insurance on their own.”

The health law’s mandate and the managed competition structure in the new exchanges will increase enrollment, state officials predict, and New Yorkers will see lower premiums when they enroll in one of 17 different insurance plans beginning in October.

“An individual with annual income of $17,000 will pay about $55 a month for a silver plan, state regulators said. A person with a $20,000 income will pay about $85 a month for a silver plan, while someone earning $25,000 will pay about $145 a month for a silver plan.”

Ironically, the price drop comes as a result of a policy that the Foundation originally proposed, but is now furiously lobbying to repeal after it was included in President Obama’s health care law.


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By a quirk of partisan posturing and administrative rulings, the biggest victims of Obamacare may be members of Congress and their staffers, who—if some GOP lawmakers have their way—will lose the subsidized health insurance they currently enjoy, which operates like any other employer-provided insurance plan.

Republicans added an amendment to the Affordable Care Act to force members of Congress and their aides off of the federal government's employee health plan and onto the newly created health insurance exchanges. The exchanges weren't designed for this, and the unusual situation meant lawmakers might lose the subsidies they use to help pay for their premiums. Fortunately for denizens of Capitol Hill, the Office of Personnel Management ruled that the government could continue to provide the subsidy. Case closed?

Not exactly. The ruling prompted conservative groups like FreedomWorks to claim that Congress was giving itself an exemption from Obamacare. Gingrey, along with Louisiana Republican David Vitter in the Senate, has led the charge on the "No Special Treatment for Congress Act," which would end the subsidy.

And that brings us to the basement of the Capitol, where, per Strong, some less affluent lawmakers challenged Gingrey on the bill. Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, for instance, said the loss of the subsidy would cost him $12,000. "That's a burden. And it's a burden on our staff, too," he reportedly said.

Gingrey was unsympathetic, and had even less concern for those spoiled staffers, citing their ability to make bank on K Street while he wallows on $172,000. The obvious rejoinder, which Democrats are sure to make, is that they'd be happy to relieve of him the burden of his job and meek salary and send him through the revolving door to K Street.

Some of Gingrey's fellow lawmakers were "incensed" by the remark, hence the leak to Strong, but the comment probably won't help the GOP's problems of being perceived as a party exclusively for the wealthy.


Congressman Complains About Making $172,000 a Year - NationalJournal.com
 

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On average, people will have a choice of 56 different insurance plans -- depending on which state you live in, though, that figure could range from seven (in Alabama) to 106 (in Arizona). The average number of insurers in a state is eight, though that again ranges from one to 13 in different states.

As for premiums, before tax credits kick in, they will average 16 percent below the Congressional Budget Office's original estimates for a silver-level plan (which covers 70 percent of costs). The number of insurers in a state is directly tied to how low premiums will be.

Arizona, with an average of 106 plans to choose from, had the second-lowest average premiums for a 27-year-old adult: $166 a month. Wyoming, with an average of 16 plans, had the highest average premium at $342 a month.

But then the tax credits take effect.

Those knock the premium for that 27-year-old, projected to earn $25,000, down to $145 in most states. For a family of four making $50,000, the credits take the premium price down from more than $1,000 in some states to $282.

The numbers before and after tax credits drop even further for bronze-level plans (which cover 60 percent of costs), often below $100 on average when tax credits are accounted for. White House officials routinely note a recent study that found 6 in 10 uninsured Americans will be able to purchase coverage for less than $100 a month.




White House Releases October 01 Effective Premiums



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If you're in Ohio, you might not be aware that you can sign up for Obamacare starting next Tuesday. That's because the Republican state government, including Lt. Gov. Mary Taylor, who also is director of the Department of Insurance, is refusing to provide information about it. The homepage for the Department of Insurance has nothing, no link to, information about the health insurance exchange.


This all leads one to suspect that Taylor's true mission is to hew to the Republican Party line and do everything possible to sabotage Obamacare in her state. So, if you know someone in Ohio who could qualify for Obamacare, do the state's job and send them to HealthCare.gov so they can find out about their options.



 

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Government Releases Obamacare Premium Levels for 36 More States





Government Releases Obamacare Premium Levels for 36 More States | Mother Jones








With the start of open enrollment in Obamacare a week away, HHS today released a report summarizing the cost of premiums in states where the exchanges will be run by the federal government. In general, the news was pretty good. As with most of the state exchanges, the premiums are coming in below the predictions of the Congressional Budget Office:
Individuals will have an average of 53 qualified health plan choices in states where HHS will fully or partially run the Marketplace.
Premiums before tax credits will be more than 16 percent lower than projected. The weighted average second lowest cost silver plan for 48 states (including DC) is 16 percent below projections based on the ASPE-derived Congressional Budget Office premiums.
Tax credits will make premiums even more affordable for individuals and families. For example, in Texas, an average 27-year-old with income of $25,000 could pay $145 per month for the second lowest cost silver plan, $133 for the lowest cost silver plan, and $83 for the lowest cost bronze plan after tax credits. For a family of four in Texas with income of $50,000, they could pay $282 per month for the second lowest cost silver plan, $239 for the lowest silver plan, and $57 per month for the lowest bronze plan after tax credits.
I don't suppose Ted Cruz will be mentioning any of this in his speechifying on the Senate floor tonight. But it's worth taking a look at those numbers. After tax credits, that family of four in Texas will pay $3,384 per year for the second-lowest-cost silver plan. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, the average family with employer health coverage pays $4,565 per year in contributions. Those aren't directly comparable, but they're close. What it means is that although Obamacare is hardly free, it does allow individuals to buy coverage for roughly the same amount they'd have to pay with an employer plan. No one is shut out of the market any longer.
The entire report is here. An excerpt of one of the tables is below, showing how much coverage will cost for individuals and families in various states.













Yup - lower costs, better coverage, more lives saved.




RepubliCONs weep at this news.
 

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We in the US still don't know what we have nor many facts to support this claim. Right now we are totally in the dark. BUT... our Congress and their families are totally exempt and have a full care coverage plan with no deductable. AND they are the ones trying to sell this Red Herring to us! What have they got to lose? Free full coverage Health care for the rest of their life. What do we have? We still do not know!
 

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Well what you in the US should know is that the republicans made damn sure that their buddies who own the insurance companies will get even richer. They made sure that they were taken care of and to hell with the people. The only good thing to come out of that mess is that people can no longer be dropped from insurance because they actually used medical care, and people who had pre existing conditions can now get insurance.
 

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We in the US still don't know what we have nor many facts to support this claim. Right now we are totally in the dark. BUT... our Congress and their families are totally exempt and have a full care coverage plan with no deductable. AND they are the ones trying to sell this Red Herring to us! What have they got to lose? Free full coverage Health care for the rest of their life. What do we have? We still do not know!



What state are you in ?

Getting info all depends on if you are in a State that want's to help it's citizens or if you are in a Red State that doesn't want to as noted above with the Ohio example.

Start with the plan offers.

If you that doesn't help contact someone to help you figure it out.

There's a phone number in the You Tube below.


1 800 318 2596



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Who'll blink? Dems, GOP in shutdown stare down

WASHINGTON (AP) -- With the government teetering on the brink of partial shutdown, congressional Republicans vowed Sunday to keep using an otherwise routine federal funding bill to try to attack the president's health care law.


Congress was closed for the day after a post-midnight vote in the GOP-run House to delay by a year key parts of the new health care law and repeal a tax on medical



devices, in exchange for avoiding a shutdown. The Senate was to convene Monday afternoon, just hours before the shutdown deadline, and Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had already promised that majority Democrats would kill the House's latest volley.

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Georgians will pay lower premiums for health insurance than originally expected when the Affordable Care Act takes effect in January, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported Wednesday.

The average premium for the lowest cost “bronze” plan in Georgia will be $265 per month, according to state-by-state figures released by the agency. The average annual Georgia premium rises to $304 for the lowest cost “silver” plan and $317 for the second-lowest cost silver plan.

Government chart of Georgia costs here.


Report: Georgia Obamacare premiums lower than expected - Atlanta Business Chronicle
 

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Georgians will pay lower premiums for health insurance than originally expected when the Affordable Care Act takes effect in January, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported Wednesday.

The average premium for the lowest cost “bronze” plan in Georgia will be $265 per month, according to state-by-state figures released by the agency. The average annual Georgia premium rises to $304 for the lowest cost “silver” plan and $317 for the second-lowest cost silver plan.

Government chart of Georgia costs here.


Report: Georgia Obamacare premiums lower than expected - Atlanta Business Chronicle
$3000/year is a lot more than $0.
 

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Right Wing Obamacare Myths DEBUNKED

Man, I hate these stupid, crazy, tea bagging right wingers. So foolish, so uncivilized. They run around screaming like crazed anarchists about how they want to stop Obamacare. Damned idiots don’t realize that the government needs to be involved in our health care decisions; we’re too helpless and feeble to handle it ourselves — unless we’re making the “medical” choice to get an abortion, in which case, THIS IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, YOU GOVERNMENT PIGS. GET OUT! I mean, leave your wallet on the table, ’cause I’m gonna need you to pay for this, but then GET OUT, JERK.


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