Should working or studying in Canada without a visa be a criminal offence?
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My impression is that due process is more ingrained in US and British cultures than in Canadian culture. I doubt that a human rights complain would make much difference. Revising the curriculum is what Canada needs.
Fact is this, buddy wasn't a Canadian citizen and as such, does not 'enjoy' (wrong word, I know) the full rights under the Charter.
Tough beans at the end of the day and while I will agree that the circumstances are puny, I still have no sympathy for him
Tough beans at the end of the day and while I will agree that the circumstances are puny, I still have no sympathy for him
How do you explain getting deported for helping his Canadian girlfriend build a DIY patio?
The UDHR is law. . . nowhere. The General Assembly has zero power to make law of any kind. It is a talking shop. It was specifically designed to be a talking shop.
Don't get me wrong, I think talking shops are useful and the UN is worth what it costs.
But to confuse the UDHR with law is a serious error.
Don't get me wrong, I think talking shops are useful and the UN is worth what it costs.
But to confuse the UDHR with law is a serious error.
So you're on holiday in Europe. You decide to help a friend one day by offering to wash the dishes and the EU decides to deport you for working without a visa without giving you any chance to defend yourself. Fair?
Yep. You went on holiday knowing that your permission to be in Europe could be revoked at any time, for any reason or no reason.
Sorry, that's not how I meant it. I was referring to the cultural impact if teaching the Universal Declaration of Human Rights on the minds of the eleven-year-olds who study it. It has a similar impact as studying the US Bill of Rights. It makes respect for fundamental human rights part of the cultural mindset and social structure beyond the law. Canadian public schools teach nothing of the sort.
OK, first, comparing an unenforced, unenforceable, purely aspirational document to "the supreme Law of the land" (U.S. Const., Art. VI, cl. 2) is ridiculous.
Second, yeah, you're right. Thanks to our study of the Bill of Rights, the U.S. enjoys a human rights record that's so much better than Canada's!
To quote petros, are you high?
Was there a lack of information provided by CBSA when this person landed in Canada?
It's not the responsibility of CBSA to school visitors... Know the laws of the land relative to being a visitor there
Travellers - Visitors to Canada
Gee whiz, that was harder to find than the rack of brochures at every port of entry.
Gee whiz, that was harder to find than the rack of brochures at every port of entry.
If it were me, I'd give them a short period within which to remedy the expired visa or absent visa, then thump em with a fine if they didn't produce a valid visa. Something like $5K would work. Then if they still didn't comply, I'd kick them out the back door, tell them to FO and don't come back.