Should the rest of the world adopt Islam's view of the inequality of women?

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Should the rest of the world adopt Islam's view of the inequality of women?

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"Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other,

Every moral legal system I know of in the West and most of the non-Islamic world begins with equality for all.

Should the rest of the world adopt Islam's view of the inequality of women?

Check the value of a Muslim woman, according to some Muslim men, at the 8 min. mark.


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DL

You really are a fuking idiot at times, anybody ever mention that before? Are thise 'some Muslim men' the ones saying anything the West wants them to say. Acid in the face is a tactic taught to them by the CIA so put your head on straight before opening your mouth with 'facts'.


Answer to the original question: Yep.

Wives, be submissive to your husbands. Let no woman speak in church. No woman can tell a man what to do.

I'd give verse references, but seriously, why bother? It's in the New Testament. Y'all know it.
Your version of the NT is as scary as any radical Muslim, both would be promoted by the same author, the radical West.
 

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Answer to the original question: Yep.

Wives, be submissive to your husbands. Let no woman speak in church. No woman can tell a man what to do.

I'd give verse references, but seriously, why bother? It's in the New Testament. Y'all know it.
Guess you missed the Reformation.
 

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You really are a fuking idiot at times, anybody ever mention that before? Are thise 'some Muslim men' the ones saying anything the West wants them to say. Acid in the face is a tactic taught to them by the CIA so put your head on straight before opening your mouth with 'facts'.



Your version of the NT is as scary as any radical Muslim, both would be promoted by the same author, the radical West.
Two peas in a pod comes to mind .....in that first sentence
 

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You really are a fuking idiot at times, anybody ever mention that before? Are thise 'some Muslim men' the ones saying anything the West wants them to say. Acid in the face is a tactic taught to them by the CIA so put your head on straight before opening your mouth with 'facts'.
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Speaking of f*cking idiots.


Yeah I can just see it. After CIA operatives explain the workings of a shoulder mounted missile launcher, they then go on to suggest, "By the way, if your womenfolk start getting uppity just toss some acid in their faces, it'll straighten them right out. And hey, at least you won't have to look a them since you make them wear bags over their heads anyway."


Yep, that's probably how it went down all right.
 

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The first sentence is probably all you can read at one sitting.

Speaking of f*cking idiots.


Yeah I can just see it. After CIA operatives explain the workings of a shoulder mounted missile launcher, they then go on to suggest, "By the way, if your womenfolk start getting uppity just toss some acid in their faces, it'll straighten them right out. And hey, at least you won't have to look a them since you make them wear bags over their heads anyway."


Yep, that's probably how it went down all right.
Way to show how naive you are about the Afghanistan in the late '70's. The acid was given to the hardliners (who were losing badly) some 6 months before the USSR had any troops in the area. They were invited in to kill the acid throwing rebels that were supported and funded by the sane US groups that are funding ISIS these days.
Stupid here is actually a collective of the usual suspects.
 

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As some pointed out already, misogyny didn't originate in Islam. Also there are Muslim men who treat women as equals - so misogyny is certainly not an inherent feature of Islam.
 

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The first sentence is probably all you can read at one sitting.


Way to show how naive you are about the Afghanistan in the late '70's. The acid was given to the hardliners (who were losing badly) some 6 months before the USSR had any troops in the area. They were invited in to kill the acid throwing rebels that were supported and funded by the sane US groups that are funding ISIS these days.
Stupid here is actually a collective of the usual suspects.
Oh man, that's hilarious. And of course that's the Russian version of events so of course we all know it must be true. Sadly, the intellectually deficient like yourself think it is.


Get a grip dude. A-stan was a Soviet satellite state and the "hardliners" wanted them out, hence the invasion by Russia.


Acid throwing rebels, yeah, because that was going to scare the Soviet's puppet regime in A-stan real bad. lol
 

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No, it's not. Aboriginals are the fastest growing demographic in Canada.


I stand corrected.


Source please.


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DL

As some pointed out already, misogyny didn't originate in Islam. Also there are Muslim men who treat women as equals - so misogyny is certainly not an inherent feature of Islam.



If Muslim men treat women as equal, please show when and how a Muslim woman can beat her husband. I want to see if the rules are the same.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wp3Eam5FX58#at=15


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Oh man, that's hilarious. And of course that's the Russian version of events so of course we all know it must be true. Sadly, the intellectually deficient like yourself think it is.


Get a grip dude. A-stan was a Soviet satellite state and the "hardliners" wanted them out, hence the invasion by Russia.


Acid throwing rebels, yeah, because that was going to scare the Soviet's puppet regime in A-stan real bad. lol
A little something to show you know nothing about the event except what you have been spoon fed. Be my pleasure to find some details of what went on in those months before the USSR got involved.

How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [“From the Shadows”], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.
* There are at least two editions of this magazine; with the perhaps sole exception of the Library of Congress, the version sent to the United States is shorter than the French version, and the Brzezinski interview was not included in the shorter version.