Should the Gov't be sticking its nose into hiring foreign workers?

[JLM]

Wow, just wow. Another example of JLM commenting on a subject without knowing anything about that subject.

Go educate yourself, dumba$$.

I think you're the guy who needs educating, Einstein! - The last thing we need is guys like Jason Kenney sticking his nose in other people's business!

define your perimeters


exactly right and exactly why the OP was kept vague... with no boundaries there are no illegal acts.

The O.P. wasn't kept intentionally vague. If the Gov't want's to impose laws and enforce them that's their business, it's what they are there for. If I hire someone and pay them a decent wage with decent working conditions & not breaking any laws, the Gov't has no f**king business sticking their nose into who I can hire.

I don't think knowing this is too much. If anyone can come here at any time and just get a job wherever then what is the point in having citizenship at all?



If you're only hiring TFWs you aren't helping the country at all.

Where did I suggest I'd only be hiring T.F.W.s? As a matter of fact I don't recall mentioning T.F.W.s specifically, my bitch is with some bureaucrat telling me who I can or can't hire.

 

[petros]

If I hire someone and pay them a decent wage with decent working conditions & not breaking any laws, the Gov't has no f**king business sticking their nose into who I can hire

Apparently they can and do. It's normal for everyone who works in Canada.

 

[JLM]

Apparently they can and do. It's normal for everyone who works in Canada.

You got that right!

 

[petros]

So what is the big deal?

 

[JLM]

So what is the big deal?

Didn't realize there was one. - I asked a couple of questions, looking for people's opinions. If someone shows up at my door looking for a job, I would take for granted he's there legally. If he has the skills and work ethic I'm looking for I should be able to hire him. If it later becomes apparent he snuck across the border after dark, then that is a totally different matter. There's powers that can deal with that.

 

[petros]

That is why you find out who you are hiring before you hire them or let them into your country to work on permits.

 

[gerryh]

Didn't realize there was one. - I asked a couple of questions, looking for people's opinions. If someone shows up at my door looking for a job, I would take for granted he's there legally. If he has the skills and work ethic I'm looking for I should be able to hire him. If it later becomes apparent he snuck across the border after dark, then that is a totally different matter. There's powers that can deal with that.

Do you know what is required, to work in Canada?

 

[JLM]

Do you know what is required, to work in Canada?

Ready, willing and able worked for me for almost 40 years! -

 

[gerryh]

Ready, willing and able worked for me for almost 40 years! -

Wrong

 

[Sal]

Didn't realize there was one. - I asked a couple of questions, looking for people's opinions. If someone shows up at my door looking for a job, I would take for granted he's there legally. If he has the skills and work ethic I'm looking for I should be able to hire him. If it later becomes apparent he snuck across the border after dark, then that is a totally different matter. There's powers that can deal with that.

if you want to hire someone to cut your grass or clean your garage out that is one thing, you are not a company...if you are a company there are different requirements as there should be

so thus far most people (in this thread at least) do think the government should stick their beak in because otherwise companies run rampant in their hiring practices...

hiring has become very complex...that's why most companies have huge HR offices

if companies had been allowed to hire any way they pleased during your 40 years perhaps you would not have been working either

 

[JLM]

if you want to hire someone to cut your grass or clean your garage out that is one thing, you are not a company...if you are a company there are different requirements as there should be

so thus far most people (in this thread at least) do think the government should stick their beak in because otherwise companies run rampant in their hiring practices...

hiring has become very complex...that's why most companies have huge HR offices

if companies had been allowed to hire any way they pleased during your 40 years perhaps you would not have been working either

I'd have been willing to take my chances! -


P.S. I not particularly willing to be regulated by the demographic in our society who has one of the worst records of abiding by the laws of the land of which Mike Duffy and Pamela Wallin are glaring examples. -

 

[Sal]

I'd have been willing to take my chances! -

so you are willing to allow companies carte blanche... interesting

so let me ask you why and how you view this as a positive for Canada

or are you just pro company...what's your reasoning

 

[SLM]

I think you're the guy who needs educating, Einstein! - The last thing we need is guys like Jason Kenney sticking his nose in other people's business!

He's the Immigration Minister. Like him or not, and I'm particularly a fan, it is his mandate to determine who gets into the country.

Where did I suggest I'd only be hiring T.F.W.s? As a matter of fact I don't recall mentioning T.F.W.s specifically, my bitch is with some bureaucrat telling me who I can or can't hire.

Bureaucrats aren't telling you or anyone else who they can or cannot hire. They are telling you and everyone else who can or cannot be allowed into the country.

Or do you perhaps think that the local McDonald's franchise owner should be determining immigration policy?

 

[JLM]

I wasn't talking about who they should or shouldn't let into the country. If the people aren't already here then it's a moot issue. I've been watching "The National" on C.B.C. quite a bit and from what I can gather Mr. Kenney hasn't been listening too much. Naturally I don't want people let in who aren't law abiding, but to let in qualified people to fill a labour shortage is a different matter.

 

[Corduroy]

Shouldn't it be up to the guy who is running the outfit to hire the guy that can make the most money for the company?

Ya, it's not like people have rights or anything.

 

[gerryh]

the Gov't has no f**king business sticking their nose into who I can hire.

They're not. You hire a Canadian, or a Perminant resident, no problems. You hire a TFW, then there are rules to abide by.

Where did I suggest I'd only be hiring T.F.W.s? As a matter of fact I don't recall mentioning T.F.W.s specifically, my bitch is with some bureaucrat telling me who I can or can't hire.

You forget what you titled this little discussion? Here's a reminder.

Re: Should the Gov't be sticking its nose into hiring foreign workers?

 

[JLM]

They're not. You hire a Canadian, or a Perminant resident, no problems. You hire a TFW, then there are rules to abide by.



You forget what you titled this little discussion? Here's a reminder.

Re: Should the Gov't be sticking its nose into hiring foreign workers?

It was a question not a statement! But I understand your concern, if they are here illegally we shouldn't be hiring them. I have no problem with that.

 

[Corduroy]

It was a question not a statement!

Get off the computer JLM. You're drunk.

 

[JLM]

Get off the computer JLM. You're drunk.

- Yeah, I'm still wearing off the effects of a beer I had on a hot day last summer! You're funny.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Shouldn't it be up to the guy who is running the outfit to hire the guy that can make the most money for the company?

If that's why people hired, that'd be great.