Shouldn't it be up to the guy who is running the outfit to hire the guy that can make the most money for the company?
Should the Gov't be sticking its nose into hiring foreign workers?
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I don't understand what you are saying...sorry, please explain. I don''t really understand what you are asking.Legal is not always ethical. Isn't up to the people issuing business licenses to determine that things are "above board"? (Not that I'm exactly in favour of business licenses either) Too much "Big brother" -
From my perspective, if someone is in the country legally with all of the permits then they can be hired. Importing people to bring down company wage costs is not ethical and akin to slavery.
Thus no, it is not up to business to hire whomever they please. We are the government, we set the standards. We have to protect Canadians and their ability to support themselves.
TORONTO -- Elderly widow Anne Opfermann agreed to get her chimney fixed after the nice man came to her door and spoke in her native German.Within weeks, though, the frail, 92-year-old legally blind senior was writing cheque after cheque for more repairs that she was told were critical -- 30 cheques in all over a six-week period. Her life savings of $160,000 were wiped out and there was just $100 left in her bank account before the police stepped in and sent the construction workers packing.
"They were trying to talk her into mortgaging her home so she could pay for more 'necessary' repairs," says her friend, Willi Strohl, 76.
"I kept saying, 'Don't betray me, please,'" adds Opfermann, as we sit on the porch of her beautiful Arts and Crafts-style west-end home that she and her late husband purchased in 1969.
But betray her they did, she says.
A Superior Court judge this week called the despicable actions of Scotty Eisemann and Anthony Taylor of Taylor Made Construction "unconscionable and exploitative" in their taking advantage of an old woman who made the mistake of trusting them. In Opfermann's civil action against the Richmond Hill, Ont., men, Justice Graeme Mew awarded her $132,206 in compensatory damages and $25,000 in aggravated damages.
Sun News : Woman, 94, wins lawsuit against shady contractor
I bet JLM figures these guys should never have been taken to court and definitely not hit with the compensation award they were hit with. After all, the old Lady signed off on all the work orders. Right? Just another example of "Big Brother" sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong. Buyer beware, after all. :roll:
"They were trying to talk her into mortgaging her home so she could pay for more 'necessary' repairs," says her friend, Willi Strohl, 76.
"I kept saying, 'Don't betray me, please,'" adds Opfermann, as we sit on the porch of her beautiful Arts and Crafts-style west-end home that she and her late husband purchased in 1969.
But betray her they did, she says.
A Superior Court judge this week called the despicable actions of Scotty Eisemann and Anthony Taylor of Taylor Made Construction "unconscionable and exploitative" in their taking advantage of an old woman who made the mistake of trusting them. In Opfermann's civil action against the Richmond Hill, Ont., men, Justice Graeme Mew awarded her $132,206 in compensatory damages and $25,000 in aggravated damages.
Sun News : Woman, 94, wins lawsuit against shady contractor
I bet JLM figures these guys should never have been taken to court and definitely not hit with the compensation award they were hit with. After all, the old Lady signed off on all the work orders. Right? Just another example of "Big Brother" sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong. Buyer beware, after all. :roll:
From what I can gather from your final sentences we have opposing philosophies on the matter. This is supposedly a free country and if I'm going to risk money to run a company and benefit the country by hiring people, then I don't really give a sh*t what any bureaucrat thinks, he's not risking anything.
That has F.A. to do with what I was talking about!
apparently because from my perspective if a business owner is not willing to abide by the law, I as a consumer am not about to support his business. I as a voter want this type of unethical business type shut down.
a free country does not give you license to abuse the system/people and not have any consequence
then you are going to prison. You are not a benefit to the country or anyone else other than yourself unless you follow the laws of the land. Risking your money does not equal entitlement to criminal offenses against the human rights code or against your fellow Canadians.
this is not about what some bureaucrat thinks, this is about legality
a free country does not equal a free for all
there are rules, abide by the rules or pay the consequences
you are your choices
JLM
Let them all come, companies can set up mass lodging in used sea cans like I used to reside in.
Provide meals, housing 2 per 8 x 20 ft sea can
Pay min wage. Deduct airfare, food, lodging transportation costs.
Of course some would come with undetermined illness, all covered by us.
I am sure you would change your mind after the first half million were hired out of country.
If not after the next half million.
This program has not received a decent audit by the Govt.
It was ripe for abuse and companies abused it.
Why are so many permits approved from southern Ontario that has a high rate of unemployment.
If they cannot hire there, raise the wages, raise the price of what they are selling.
This has been a boondoggle with no oversight.
Let them all come, companies can set up mass lodging in used sea cans like I used to reside in.
Provide meals, housing 2 per 8 x 20 ft sea can
Pay min wage. Deduct airfare, food, lodging transportation costs.
Of course some would come with undetermined illness, all covered by us.
I am sure you would change your mind after the first half million were hired out of country.
If not after the next half million.
This program has not received a decent audit by the Govt.
It was ripe for abuse and companies abused it.
Why are so many permits approved from southern Ontario that has a high rate of unemployment.
If they cannot hire there, raise the wages, raise the price of what they are selling.
This has been a boondoggle with no oversight.
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Where did I say I was going to hire them at a discount?
And how long do you think an unethical employer is going to retain good help?
The worker program was to supplement a worker shortage not to replace workers
who are Canadians.
This was to further the race to the bottom economically and in this case I agree with
government
who are Canadians.
This was to further the race to the bottom economically and in this case I agree with
government
On the radio this morning they also mentioned it's original intent was to help with a shortage of highly skilled labour, not the low skilled labour it's been used for.
you didn't you kept it purposely vague for your benefit... I simply defined the terms of why someone would operate in such a shady way and the deciding factor for government involvement...you want to keep the perimeters open and argue from any angle you choose...
you can't do that...
be specific...I asked you to...you did not, therefore I can impose any variables into the equation and it is valid
define your perimeters
exactly right and exactly why the OP was kept vague... with no boundaries there are no illegal acts.