u guys noe they didnt sign *i believe* the constutition....(i could be wrong)....technically quebec isnt part of canada....but it is...lol....
Should Quebec separate from Canada?
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In my opinion, the argument that Quebec belongs to Canada and that by law it can't seperate is neutralized by the argument that Quebec is not, to this day, signed on to the constitution. Law and politics aren't quite the smae thing...
As long as the constitutional issue isn't solved, the seperatist movement is more than legitimate.
As long as the constitutional issue isn't solved, the seperatist movement is more than legitimate.
RE: Should Quebec separat
I think the larger issue here is how independant are provinces anyways...I think each province has enough autonomy that it would serve no purpose to seperate...and really no purpose to stay together. I mean, Quebec is more or less a seperate entity anyways (with its language laws, its financial laws, and so on and so forth). But every province can make the argument that its a single entity. Look at Alberta. Cripes, we do things by a different drummer...and with the Not Withstanding Clause, we can pretty much do our own thing anyway..with or without Canada.
Let's also reexamine how we percieve Canada. It seems to me that the common consensus is that Canada is better when the power is shited to Ottawa instead of the Provinces. It only seems that if the power shifts away from a centralized federal government into the hands of provinces, everyone goes all batshit crazy and declares seperation is a risk.
The two powers can coexist without threats of seperation or what have you. For all intensive purposes, Quebec is a seperate nation within a nation already, as is every other provinces.
Money and shared heritage is what ultimately binds us. And if Quebecers genuinely feel that they are a better seperate power completely tied off rather than a seperate power with strong ties..than I won't stop them from deciding their own future.
I think the larger issue here is how independant are provinces anyways...I think each province has enough autonomy that it would serve no purpose to seperate...and really no purpose to stay together. I mean, Quebec is more or less a seperate entity anyways (with its language laws, its financial laws, and so on and so forth). But every province can make the argument that its a single entity. Look at Alberta. Cripes, we do things by a different drummer...and with the Not Withstanding Clause, we can pretty much do our own thing anyway..with or without Canada.
Let's also reexamine how we percieve Canada. It seems to me that the common consensus is that Canada is better when the power is shited to Ottawa instead of the Provinces. It only seems that if the power shifts away from a centralized federal government into the hands of provinces, everyone goes all batshit crazy and declares seperation is a risk.
The two powers can coexist without threats of seperation or what have you. For all intensive purposes, Quebec is a seperate nation within a nation already, as is every other provinces.
Money and shared heritage is what ultimately binds us. And if Quebecers genuinely feel that they are a better seperate power completely tied off rather than a seperate power with strong ties..than I won't stop them from deciding their own future.
Too bad Alberta was created by Canada and belongs to Canada. Right now they're in a boom. But it wont last forever, like Newfoundland and the fishing industry. They thought the fish would be there forever. Now they need money from the rest of Canada. Alberta needs Canada and will need Canada when the boom is over.
The fact is people aren't going to go out and vote on economic issues. The reason sovereignty is so popular in Quebec is because there is cultural, historical, and sociological evidence that supports the notion that Quebec is a political nation. It's not so much that they're against federalism or Canada, or that they want to isolate themselves from the world, but that they feel the current federal system isn't the ideal system for them, and that it's not responsive enough to the issues that are important to them.
Unfortunately, the 1982 Consititution, the disasterous Meeche Lake Accord, and the recent Sponsorship Scandal haven't really done much to improve that system in their eyes. I'm not saying that I support Quebec sovereignty, but I can definitely see where it's coming from. And how it's more than just a French vs English thing.
Unfortunately, the 1982 Consititution, the disasterous Meeche Lake Accord, and the recent Sponsorship Scandal haven't really done much to improve that system in their eyes. I'm not saying that I support Quebec sovereignty, but I can definitely see where it's coming from. And how it's more than just a French vs English thing.
I dont find too many cultural difference from the rest of Canada....all I can see is MAJOR language differences....
Logic 7 said:
Quebec really need to realize there isn't a whole lot to their culture besides poutine & crappy pop artists.
Re: RE: Should Quebec separate from Canada?
Maybe you are right, but i think you are wrong,quebecers are more like french latino, when the rest of the canada are more like beetween brits and americans, still quebec has a lot of american influence too.
sine000 said:
Maybe you are right, but i think you are wrong,quebecers are more like french latino, when the rest of the canada are more like beetween brits and americans, still quebec has a lot of american influence too.