Should Governments rescind the noble lie of religions?

Praxius

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It's so refreshing that atheists don't preach, don't judge, don't attempt to force their religious views. So much more enlightened.


It's about time some of us did.... religions had their centuries free to do so, maybe it's Atheist's turn to see if they can do better
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But I do love it how Atheists are expected to remain silent about any wrong doings they may see, thus allowing those wrong doings to continue.

I mean, how dare they, right?
 

karrie

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Ah, you mistake what I complain about atheists in regards to, with disagreeing with their right to speak. everyone has a right to belief, everyone has a right to speak. But, Christian, atheist, muslim alike, I will point out when people are being hypocritical, or crossing the line into trying to force their views on others.
 

In Between Man

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Cut religious groups tax breaks. Govts should ignore religion.

Only when we completely stop funding abortion.

That's man-given, not god-given, all religions, given the power to do so, have tried to suppress other religions. There are still a lot of what are often called blue laws, or Lord's Day Acts, or Sunday observance laws, something like that, on the books in many jurisdictions.

That's a scary concept that our rights are man-given. That only means they can be taken away by man. Communist, and if I were to be unabated, Communist-atheist countries come to mind, China, North Korea, Soviet Union, etc.

The Noble lie that God exists in the first place.

Can you please provide evidence or proof that God's existence is a lie?

Paying their fair share of taxes would not hurt and would lessen the burden on the rest of us.

But, but, that would leave less money for charity, food banks, clothing bins, orphans etc.

BTW. Which God gave anyone any right to do anything?

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Your imaginary one perhaps?

No, no, no, this is all wrong. An imaginary thing can't give you a new heart, with new desires, inward peace, and hope for the future. Don't be silly.

The Government has given religions the right to lie to those less able to resist their indoctrination.

Um, no again. It's actually God who created free will and bestowed it to us, so all though approximately 2000 false religions are capable of doing wrong by lying, we also have the ability to spread the Truth, which is salvation through Jesus Christ. Amen! (Governments don't bestow rights, they're only suppose to serve to protect them.)

Some people think that is immoral but not Christians of course as they call evil good and have the same immoral views as their genocidal son murdering God.

They sure teach great morals eh?

If you object to the things God has done, then please tell me on what objective standard you base your moral objection on. Remember, if you tell me your standard is "What I think" or "How I feel" that would be your opinion only and not an objective standard. (Opinion counts for jack.)

Regards,
IBM
 

Omicron

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Should Governments rescindthe noble lie of religions?

Can the population of Canadatake the truth?



Actually, the problem is if the government of Quebeque can take the truth and rescind homo-bishops nailing choir boys choking them secret upon threat of hell in the middle of Harper getting his nuts kicked off if more than 50% of Canadians can have intelligence enouch to read Wiki for 20 minutes to see who to vote for.

Pretend there's an interstellar spaceship design like what's-is-place in Montreal could come up with.

Pretend I'm so idealistic that Americans dream about having fathers of confederations like me.

Explain to me how you could be so ****-holew thinking honour could be achieved by jerking off as low as Chicago with your sponsorship scandal.

Time to get over it.. You Franko's were that cause of it, and your heart is broken as we discover the last remanent descendent of the French crown to do a political mating with ... I am told the Queen will offer damn-near anything to shut you up, up to and including finding some dumb-stupid French-Quibequopis bitch to ring her up, take some egg cells, and establish a Canadian monarchy able to hold to to position enough to stop TO types trying to be NY to become theior onn sort of newley depressing king as if we had not seen that already before.


 
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Dexter Sinister

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That's a scary concept that our rights are man-given. That only means they can be taken away by man.
Yes, that's exactly what it means, which demonstrates that they're man-given. Look around the world at all the places where basic human rights are denied to people, and ask yourself who did that. You might be able to make the case that some deity defines what they are, though I think that'd be fairly easy to knock down just by pointing at rights we have that are mentioned nowhere in any religious writings, like voting, but who gets them and who doesn't depends on human decisions.
 

jariax

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So, basically, you have one group that believes that they know THE TRUTH, and based on that knowledge, they would be doing the rest of the populous a favour by forcing them to believe the same things that they do.
I wonder if that's ever been tried before.
 

French Patriot

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. everyone has a right to belief, everyone has a right to speak. But, Christian, atheist, muslim alike, I will point out when people are being hypocritical, or crossing the line into trying to force their views on others.

Check post 13

The right to belief translates into the right to the actions you see there.
Institutionalized abuse.

Regards
DL

Only when we completely stop funding abortion.

What would all the Christians who are aborting do then?

That's a scary concept that our rights are man-given. That only means they
can be taken away by man.

Who but men have ever taken rights away?


Can you please provide evidence or proof that God's existence is a lie?

Logical fallacy.
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Ah. The Jewish God.

Do they believe him real?

Lewis Black - The Old Testament - YouTube


RaceandHistory.com - Doubting the Story of Exodus

Do you really believe in talking snakes and donkeys and a water walking genocidal God?



Um, no again. It's actually God who created free will and bestowed it to us, so
all though approximately 2000 false religions are capable of doing wrong by
lying, we also have the ability to spread the Truth, which is salvation through
Jesus Christ. Amen! (Governments don't bestow rights, they're only suppose to
serve to protect them.)

How was your ticket to heavenpurchased? With innocent blood?


If you object to the things God has done, then please tell me on what objective standard you base your moral objection on. Remember, if you tell me your standard is "What I think" or "How I feel" that would be your opinion only and not an objective standard. (Opinion counts for jack.)

Regards,
IBM

Correct. Yours proves it.

TED Blog | The real difference between liberals and conservatives: Jonathan Haidt on TED.com

Regards
DL

So, basically, you have one group that believes that they know THE TRUTH, and based on that knowledge, they would be doing the rest of the populous a favour by forcing them to believe the same things that they do.
I wonder if that's ever been tried before.

Yes. You describe all religions.

Regards
DL