Should Canada have the death penalty again ?

Should Canada have the death penalty?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 48.5%
  • No

    Votes: 15 45.5%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Total voters
    33

gerryh

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I think you may have just hit on a solution to that sort of problem, if you give false testimony that results in a wrongful conviction you go on the list of those eligible for the death penalty.


You really seem to have a hard on to kill people.
 

SLM

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I think you may have just hit on a solution to that sort of problem, if you give false testimony that results in a wrongful conviction you go on the list of those eligible for the death penalty.
That still wouldn't bring back the one who was wrongfully convicted and put to death.

So it's back to retribution and revenge.
 

JLM

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That still wouldn't bring back the one who was wrongfully convicted and put to death.

So it's back to retribution and revenge.

I was thinking more along the lines that knowing the penalty the guy wouldn't have given false testimony and they both remain alive.

You really seem to have a hard on to kill people.

Au contraire- trying to reduce the number of unwarranted hangings.
 

cranky

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I think its possible to make thé qualifying guidlines for capital punishment so strict that there is not reasonable doubt in the criminals guilt, AND there is no reasonable doubt that evidance rock solid. Once established, i say go for it.
 

Taxx

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I think its possible to make thé qualifying guidlines for capital punishment so strict that there is not reasonable doubt in the criminals guilt, AND there is no reasonable doubt that evidance rock solid. Once established, i say go for it.
I guess what your saying is have it there but make it hard to actually use? That is a good point you make. I would hazard a guess there are more people who feel the same way.
 

gerryh

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I'm curious as to why the pro capital punishment people want to let the scum of the earth off so easily?
 

SLM

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I was thinking more along the lines that knowing the penalty the guy wouldn't have given false testimony and they both remain alive.



Au contraire- trying to reduce the number of unwarranted hangings.
I just honestly and truly do not believe that that really works. Certainly not sufficiently enough to justify killing someone.

In my opinion, I feel what one has to do is start with the most basic question. Is it right to take a human life? Not is it right in this situation or that situation, but simply is it right? My answer to that is no. That is my guiding principle here and that bar is set pretty damn high. That's the standard that I use to evaluate all the various scenarios whether real or speculative. And don't get me wrong, a lot of times it really does challenge me to adhere to that principle. As it should, it's not really a principle if it doesn't challenge you I think. And when I compare a life (not the life of a criminal but a life period, because that's what the principle is founded on) to things like the cost of incarceration, the risk of an error, or the need to revenge a wrong then all those other things fall short. They don't fall short easily, they do take their toll when contemplating them. But they just don't measure up to a life.
 

cranky

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I just honestly and truly believe that scumiest of dirtbags do not deserve to live. Give them their due process then execute them
 

gerryh

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I just honestly and truly believe that scumiest of dirtbags do not deserve to live. Give them their due process then execute them


Of course, why make em suffer for what they did, give em the easy way out.
 

cranky

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Of course, why make em suffer for what they did, give em the easy way out.

As in keeping him alive is sufferage? What if you have evidence that phsycho killer number three doesnt see it as suffering, do you deliver daily beatings or are you open to capital punishment?
 

gerryh

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As in keeping him alive is sufferage? What if you have evidence that phsycho killer number three doesnt see it as suffering, do you deliver daily beatings or are you open to capital punishment?


nope, don't believe in murdering people. Believe that the scum of the earth should be stuffed in a 5x10 cell for the rest of their life. No parole, no priviliges, no nothin.
 

cranky

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For a convicted felon, but not a civilian,Just like à 5x10 cell isnt considered torture, capital punishment would not be concidered murder.
 

gerryh

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For a convicted felon, but not a civilian,Just like à 5x10 cell isnt considered torture, capital punishment would not be concidered murder.


Ya ya ya....... and abortion isn't murder....... and and and....... the weak minded can always justify.
 

AnotherMother

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Pickton, Dahmer, Shoenborn red handed. A bed. Roof over the head. Three square meals a day. Hot water. Clean laundry. Television. Library use. Prison education. More than what some struggle to keep everyday honest hard working law abiding people. To put the fear back into the computer generation...gamers. People, children... look at the ages of the two that killed Kim Proctor 16 and 17 year olds..the young Virk girl beaten cigarette burnt her beat and drowned death by school mates bullying her . They are coming out more with sinister acts with no remorse. I may sound cold.
If to be to put the fear back into society yes. To be guilty as these people were red handed and DNA full admission of guilt. If my child had taken a life of an innocent girl and planned it like those two I would want the message to others their age do this you die so you better think twice about what you are planning this is not just a video game anymore here. My sister stood beside a family member
at thekids school that day a cell phone call...all that was said was oh my god its her its kimmy. These were other mothers all standing there with her watching their nightmare unfold right in front of them. So yeah to put the fear back into people. If not then when does that come back? Hollywood offers them a deal and they make money off a screen play they help write while time served? Just my opinion.
My daughter says I am old school and that is just how my generation all think. Her 25 year old boyfriend and she 21 think that it all stems from how a person was brought up how they turn out in life and act. That everyone should see a therapist . They are both against the death penalty. We debate. A lot.
 

cranky

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If I was a business man, I'd be allowed to write off "dead stock" inventory that isn't selling.

In the case of a prison, there is inventory that should never be released, lets write it off.
 

JLM

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What's that old saying?

Why do people believe that killing someone for the crime of killing someone shows that killing someone is wrong?

That's a good point.................but it might have something to do with the killer being deemed a worse person than the killee.

Pickton, Dahmer, Shoenborn red handed. A bed. Roof over the head. Three square meals a day. Hot water. Clean laundry. Television. Library use. Prison education. More than what some struggle to keep everyday honest hard working law abiding people. To put the fear back into the computer generation...gamers. People, children... look at the ages of the two that killed Kim Proctor 16 and 17 year olds..the young Virk girl beaten cigarette burnt her beat and drowned death by school mates bullying her . They are coming out more with sinister acts with no remorse. I may sound cold.
If to be to put the fear back into society yes. To be guilty as these people were red handed and DNA full admission of guilt. If my child had taken a life of an innocent girl and planned it like those two I would want the message to others their age do this you die so you better think twice about what you are planning this is not just a video game anymore here. My sister stood beside a family member
at thekids school that day a cell phone call...all that was said was oh my god its her its kimmy. These were other mothers all standing there with her watching their nightmare unfold right in front of them. So yeah to put the fear back into people. If not then when does that come back? Hollywood offers them a deal and they make money off a screen play they help write while time served? Just my opinion.
My daughter says I am old school and that is just how my generation all think. Her 25 year old boyfriend and she 21 think that it all stems from how a person was brought up how they turn out in life and act. That everyone should see a therapist . They are both against the death penalty. We debate. A lot.

Excellent post there, Mother. :smile:
 

Unforgiven

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You forgot the part about how me and a few of my buddies are going to kick the crap out of you and use you for sex every few days. Most of us have HIV and HepC but that doesn't matter to you does it sweetheart?

Oh and the bed isn't quite the one you're picturing out of Pier One. The three square meals is also made by us and though you might not know it, we aren't as passionate about cooking as they are on the food channel. Of course privatizing the prisons will open this area up for cost cutting which will be a bid deal when it becomes a profit making system.

Though I know you gals love laundry time, it's not what it's cracked up to be when laundry time is isn't 25 minutes of gathering and loading the washer then coffee time. But we do make $6.90 a day if we work for it, doing laundry and cooking. There is a store where we can buy things like tooth paste, deodorant, pain relief and so on, but the canteen basket costs $61.59.

There isn't so much tennis, golf, and BBQ on the beach as there is avoiding the rapists, psycho violent offenders and the gangs who either want to affiliate you or make it so you can't join some other gang. That makes for a full day. Not so many trips to the gym and day spa any more either which is pretty rough on the girls. You know how they like to keep looking good.

This year the goal is to drop the murder rate in prison down below 180. That's a tough mark to hit but we're trying. Seems there is a bit of tension between these baby criminals and the hardcore lifers. Not enough bitches to go around I expect and you know what they say about a 300 pound mad man whose affections have been spurned.

Well gotta run, looks like someone's ripping off my shampoo again and I gots to step up you know?

Wish you were here.

kiss kiss hug hug little kiss, big hug kiss little hug.

Pickton, Dahmer, Shoenborn red handed. A bed. Roof over the head. Three square meals a day. Hot water. Clean laundry. Television. Library use. Prison education. More than what some struggle to keep everyday honest hard working law abiding people. To put the fear back into the computer generation...gamers. People, children... look at the ages of the two that killed Kim Proctor 16 and 17 year olds..the young Virk girl beaten cigarette burnt her beat and drowned death by school mates bullying her . They are coming out more with sinister acts with no remorse. I may sound cold.
If to be to put the fear back into society yes. To be guilty as these people were red handed and DNA full admission of guilt. If my child had taken a life of an innocent girl and planned it like those two I would want the message to others their age do this you die so you better think twice about what you are planning this is not just a video game anymore here. My sister stood beside a family member
at thekids school that day a cell phone call...all that was said was oh my god its her its kimmy. These were other mothers all standing there with her watching their nightmare unfold right in front of them. So yeah to put the fear back into people. If not then when does that come back? Hollywood offers them a deal and they make money off a screen play they help write while time served? Just my opinion.
My daughter says I am old school and that is just how my generation all think. Her 25 year old boyfriend and she 21 think that it all stems from how a person was brought up how they turn out in life and act. That everyone should see a therapist . They are both against the death penalty. We debate. A lot.