Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

[soupy]

I am personally a staunch supporter of Canadian soverignty however, I am interested to know if there is anyone out there who wants to create a United United States and Canadan and why. With all the pressure that the US government has put on us since ummmm the end of the American revolution, I believe that it is only a matter of time before this becomes a serious question.

Thank You Very Much :lol:

 

[peapod]

nay

 

[gerryh]

you know where you can stick that suggestion.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

I think that there are several States that should join Canada and several others that should be given back to Mexico. I would happily partition the US into several regions and keep them separate, much as Germany was divided after WWII.

 

[Munkustrap]

It seems the US has never lost it's want to control of NA.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Should Canada Become

Hold onto your shorts kiddies, because Martin is sending Manley and Tommy D'Aquino to more or less secret meetings to discuss doing that very thing. link

 

[no1important]

RE: Should Canada Become

I would say no as well.

 

[mrmom2]

He isn't sending they are already at it they put the idea of one police force,one immigration dept.on the table. The us trilateral commision is sponsoring the whole thing and there is alot of americans upset about it too.don't know how the mexicans feel about it But i say f.ck that not interested i hope the rest of canada feels the same way 8O

 

[Vanni Fucci]

I've long suspected that the Libs and Cons have been working with the nefarious New World Order...check it the following links:

http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/7712.html

Nice little endorsement by our PM...

http://pm.gc.ca/eng/bio.asp?id=38

He is respected internationally in part for his leadership in forging a new world financial order in which emerging economies would be prevented from plunging into ruinous financial crises.

Interesting choice of words there in the PM's bio...

http://www.waronterrorismwatch.ca/

http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspiracy/secret_toronto_bilderberg_meetin.htm

The Bilderberg Conference in an annual gathering of power-mongers and elitists...the media never reports on this event, and no one knows what their agenda may be...

Here is a list of Canadian attendees over the past 10 years...

http://www.bilderberg.org/2004.htm

Notable Canadian attendees. 2004:

Kevin G. Lynch -- Deputy Minister of Finance

Frank McKenna -- Counsel, McInnes Cooper, former premier of New Brunswick, current ambassador to the US.

Heather Reisman -- President and CEO Indigo Books and Music Inc.

http://www.bilderberg.org/2003.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 2003:

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited, Chairman and CEO Hollinger International Inc.

Anthony S. Fell -- Chairman RBC Dominion Securities Inc.

Stephen Harper -- Leader of the Opposition

Margaret O. MacMillan -- Provost, Trinity College, University of Toronto

Heather Reisman -- President and CEO Indigo Books and Music Inc.

Mark Steyn -- Journalist for various publications

http://www.bilderberg.org/2002.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 2002:

Charles A. Baillie -- Chairman and CEO TD Bank Financial Group

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited, Chairman and CEO Hollinger International Inc.

David Frum -- American Enterprise Institute; Former Special Assistant to President Bush

Heather Reisman -- President and CEO Indigo Books and Music Inc.

Kenneth Whyte -- Editor National Post

http://www.bilderberg.org/2001.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 2001:

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited, Chairman and CEO Hollinger International Inc.

John Hunkin -- Chairman and CEO, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce

Bernard Lord -- Priemer of New Brunswick

Margaret O. MacMillan -- Editor, International Journal, Canadian Institute of International Affairs

Heather Monroe-Blum -- Vice-President for Research and International Relations, University of Toronto

Kenneth Whyte -- Editor-in-Chief, National Post

http://www.bilderberg.org/2000.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 2000:

Israel Asper -- Chairman, CanWest Capital Group Inc.

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited, Chairman and CEO Hollinger International Inc.

David Frum -- Columnist, National Post Newspaper

http://www.bilderberg.org/1999.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 1999:

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited, Chairman and CEO Hollinger International Inc.

John A.D. de Chastelain -- Chairman, Independent International Commission on Decommissioning

Peter C. Godsoe -- Chairman and CEO, Bank of Nova Scotia

Peter A. Herndorf -- Former Chairman and CEO, TV Ontario; Senior Visiting Fellow, University of Toronto

Roy McLaren -- High Commissioner for Canada in Britain

Margaret O. MacMillan -- Editor, International Journal

http://www.bilderberg.org/1998.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 1998:

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited, Chairman and CEO Hollinger International Inc.

Raymond A.J. Chretien -- Ambassador to the U.S

Stephane Dion -- Queens Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs

Margaret O. MacMillan -- Editor, International Journal, Canadian Institute of International Affairs

Preston Manning -- Leader of the Reform Party of Canada

http://www.bilderberg.org/1997.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 1997:

Isabel Basset -- Parliamentary Assistant to the Ministry of Finance, Government of Ontario

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited

David Frum -- Political Commentator

Heather Monroe-Blum -- Vice-President for Research and International Relations, University of Toronto

Maureen Sabia -- Corporate Director and President, Maureen Sabia International

http://www.bilderberg.org/bildlist.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 1996:

Lloyd Axworthy -- Minister of Foreign Affairs

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, The Telegraph

Jean Chretien -- Prime Minister of Canada

Marie-Josee Drouin -- Executive Director, Hudson Institute of Canada

Frederick S. Eaton -- Chairman, Executive Committee, Eaton's of Canada

A.L. Flood -- Chairman, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce

Allen E. Gotleib -- Former Ambassador to the United States of America

Anthony G.S. Griffin -- Honorary Chairman and Director, Guardian Group

Michael Harris -- Premier of Ontario

Paul Martin -- Minister of Finance

Sylvia Ostry -- Chairman, Centre for International Studies, University of Toronto

Edward S. Rogers -- President and CEO, Rogers Communications, Inc.

L.R. Wilson -- Chairman, President and CEO, BCE Inc.

http://www.bilderberg.org/cocktail.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 1995:

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited

Marie-Josee Drouin -- Executive Director, Hudson Institute of Canada

Allen E. Gotleib -- Former Ambassador to the United States of America

Ralph Klein -- Premier of Alberta

J. Robert Pritchard -- President, University of Toronto

http://www.bilderberg.org/1994.htm

Notable Canadian attendees, 1994:

Conrad M. Black -- Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited

Marie-Josee Drouin -- Executive Director, Hudson Institute of Canada

Roy MacLaren -- Minister for International Trade

Frank McKenna -- Premier of New Brunswick

William Thorsell -- Editor, The Globe and Mail

Peter G. White -- Chairman of Unimedia; Former Head of the Prime Ministers Office

What do all of these Canadians have in common? They're all either sitting politicians, media magnates, or high financiers...nothing of what is discussed in these conferences is ever published in the media...I'm very much curious as to what they discuss there...

...one last thing to note, there were no representatives from the NDP Party, or the Bloc Quebecois in attendence at these conferences...ever!!

 

[zenfisher]

I gotta give this a nay.

 

[bogie]

Hope I never live long enough to see the day. The thought of such an action is repulsive, to say the least. Not "repulsive" as meaning "anti-american", but rather to our own identity and way of life - and, yes people, we do have one that is unique.

The even further merging of trade and commerce is inevitable, as Mulrooney opened the flood-gates and the flow is so high that they can't be closed. Wal-Mart, and it's ilk, are now part of our landscape, but our border must remain sovereign.

Anybody who is for becoming another US acquisition does not fully comprehend the impact.

 

[EagleSmack]

Stop being so paranoid. It will never happen.

Just keep sending us people like Neve Campbell.

 

[mrmom2]

Hey don't forget are comedians

 

[EagleSmack]

And bands like Treble Charger.

Although they aren't as popular here. The furthest south they have come is Syracuse I think.

 

[shamus11]

Do we have any choice in all of this?

Does anyone out there in the public realize that this is going on?

Is this why we are forbidden to have referendums?

Is this why we are forbidden proportional representation?

Is this the reason why we can't vote directly for our prime minister?

 

[mrmom2]

Unfortunetly I don't think the powers that be are going to give us a choice I think your going to see another large scale terror attack .THen the will say the only way we can ever be safe is to give up what little freedom we have left and the majority of sheeple will just go along with it .

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Should Canada Become

Shamus, that's a path that Brian Mulroney got us started on and Paul Martin has steadfastly refused to change. He headed up the charge within the Liberal Party to keep NAFTA and has worked to expand it. He is nominally better than Stephen Harper, who wouldn't even pretend to negotiate, just hand everything over. Martin pretends to negotiate, at least.

There's an article at Vive le Canada about it and I suspect that there will be some sort of action against it.

I think there will be another large scale terror attack sometime before Bush leaves office, Mr.Mom. It will again be in the US though, not in Canada. The US will receive much less support than they did for 9-11.

 

[whicker]

Doncha all know that Canada is going to become another continent on its own??? What else can happen in order to support our multicultural identity??? We will become like Europe with all different countries. That should create a bigger headache for assimiliation into the States :lol:

 

[MichaelRedEagle]

RE: Should Canada Become

Death first.
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=54022#54022

 

[Cosmo]

Ok, I'm getting ready to go into my "duck and cover" mode for saying this, but my opinion is SURE! This whole competitive thing between Canada and the US is, in my opinion, more like primary schoolyard mentality. We're all folk, just trying to get by in this world the best we can.

I think the sanity factor of Canadians would temper some of the rabid aggression of the Americans. I think some of the patriotism and willingness to take a stance on things would strengthen Canada's ambiguous, polite way of being. I think both countries would be better for the marriage.

Plus I'd love to be able to wander down to somewhere permanently warm to live and work!

I tend to see things from a more global perspective. Instead of all the pushing, shoving and protecting turf, everyone would benefit from that time, energy and money being put toward improving the standard of living for everyone. Of course western imperialism wouldn't stand for it ... ya gotta keep somebody down if you want to keep yourself elevated, right? Gotta have someone's back to stand on if you hold fast to the popular political philosophy.

Idealistic? Yup. But I do believe anything else is short sighted. Probably not in our lifetimes, but one day we will become a global village ... either that or we'll wipe ourselves out when someone pushes the button.

Ok ... now I'll hide under my computer desk while everyone flings rotten tomatoes at me!