Shooting Reported At Anti-Islam Group's Cartoon Contest In Texas
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OK, I just re-read Steyn's. . . thing. You're right. It amounts to a crotchety old man pissing and moaning about Da Yoof.Absolutely!
It is your right to be wrong.
No intellectual principle, no logical argument. Basically Rush Limbaugh. Have fun with it.
He may be. Didn't say he wasn't. Said this piece is devoid of anything approaching an intellectual argument. It's just Steyn pissing and moaning about the "liberal media" and "liberal higher education."
The gunmen who attacked a cartoon contest depicting the prophet Muhammad in Texas earlier this month were killed by multiple officers on a SWAT team, rather than a sole traffic patrol officer, as police had initially said after the encounter.
This new information was released by Garland’s police chief on Monday during a news conference seeking to emphasize that his department had no warning that the gunmen would target the contest and cartoon exhibit.
In the initial narrative outlined the morning after the incident occurred, Garland police said the two gunmen drove up to the center and opened fire in the parking lot, hitting a school security officer in the leg. A police spokesman said last week that an officer who normally works on traffic, but who was at the event as part of a heavy security detail, shot and killed both gunmen using his duty pistol.
Police now say a SWAT team, not a single traffic cop, killed the gunmen at Muhammad cartoon event - The Washington Post
Cue chorus of "The Boxer."
This new information was released by Garland’s police chief on Monday during a news conference seeking to emphasize that his department had no warning that the gunmen would target the contest and cartoon exhibit.
In the initial narrative outlined the morning after the incident occurred, Garland police said the two gunmen drove up to the center and opened fire in the parking lot, hitting a school security officer in the leg. A police spokesman said last week that an officer who normally works on traffic, but who was at the event as part of a heavy security detail, shot and killed both gunmen using his duty pistol.
Police now say a SWAT team, not a single traffic cop, killed the gunmen at Muhammad cartoon event - The Washington Post
Cue chorus of "The Boxer."
Good for them. They all deserve accolades for ridding the world of two pieces of scum.
They got holed.
It sounds like the cop made them gimps though and the SWAT Team was able to give them the a Texas Hose Down.
It sounds like the cop made them gimps though and the SWAT Team was able to give them the a Texas Hose Down.
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Dan Maynard: I can't tell you whether the FBI knew the attack was gonna occur. I don't like to think that they let it occur. But it is shocking to me that an undercover agent sees fellas jumping out of a car and he drives on. I find that shocking.
Anderson Cooper: That he didn't try to stop--
Dan Maynard: He didn't try to stop 'em. Or he didn't do something. I mean, he's an agent, for gosh sakes.
Anderson Cooper: If this attack had gone a different way, and lots of people had been killed, would the fact that an undercover FBI agent was on the scene have become essentially a scandal?
Seamus Hughes: It woulda been a bigger story. I think you would have seen congressional investigations and things like that. Lucky for the FBI and for the participants in the event you know, here in Texas, you know, everyone's a good shot there.
60 Minutes investigates first ISIS-claimed attack in U.S. and what the FBI knew - CBS News
agent takes cell phone pic of those going to be attacked, seconds before attack:
How close was the FBI to terror attack in Garland, TX? - Videos - CBS News
Anderson Cooper: That he didn't try to stop--
Dan Maynard: He didn't try to stop 'em. Or he didn't do something. I mean, he's an agent, for gosh sakes.
Anderson Cooper: If this attack had gone a different way, and lots of people had been killed, would the fact that an undercover FBI agent was on the scene have become essentially a scandal?
Seamus Hughes: It woulda been a bigger story. I think you would have seen congressional investigations and things like that. Lucky for the FBI and for the participants in the event you know, here in Texas, you know, everyone's a good shot there.
60 Minutes investigates first ISIS-claimed attack in U.S. and what the FBI knew - CBS News
agent takes cell phone pic of those going to be attacked, seconds before attack:
How close was the FBI to terror attack in Garland, TX? - Videos - CBS News
Yup, the Liberal's Motion 103 is a huge shhhhh.The Washington Post offered the celebrated headline "Event Organizer Offers No Apology After Thwarted Attack In Texas", while the Associated Press went with "Pamela Geller says she has no regrets about Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest that ended in 2 deaths". The media "narrative" of the last week is that some Zionist temptress was walking down the street in Garland in a too short skirt and hoisted it to reveal her Mohammed thong - oops, my apologies, her Prophet Mohammed thong (PBUH) - and thereby inflamed two otherwise law-abiding ISIS supporters peacefully minding their own business. It'll be a long time before you see "Washington Post Offers No Apology for Attacking Target of Thwarted Attack" or "AP Says It Has No Regrets After Blaming The Victim". The respectable class in the American media share the same goal as the Islamic fanatics: They want to silence Pam Geller. To be sure, they have a mild disagreement about the means to that end - although even then you get the feeling, as with Garry Trudeau and those dozens of PEN novelists' reaction to Charlie Hebdo, that the "narrative" wouldn't change very much if the jihad boys had got luckier and Pam, Geert Wilders, Robert Spencer and a dozen others were all piled up in the Garland morgue.
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Free speech is necessary to free society for all the stuff after the "but", after the "however". There's no fine line between "free speech" and "hate speech": Free speech is hate speech; it's for the speech you hate - and for all your speech that the other guy hates. If you don't have free speech, then you can't have an honest discussion. All you can do is what those stunted moronic boobs in Paris and Copenhagen and Garland did: grab a gun and open fire. What Miliband and Cotler propose will, if enacted, reduce us all to the level of the inarticulate halfwits who think the only dispositive argument is "Allahu Akbar".
Alas, we have raised a generation of But boys. Ever since those ridiculous Washington Post and AP headlines, I've been thinking about the fellows who write and sub-edit and headline and approve such things - and never see the problem with it. Why would they? If you're under a certain age, you accept instinctively that free speech is subordinate to other considerations: If you've been raised in the "safe space" of American universities, you take it as read that on gays and climate change and transgendered bathrooms and all kinds of other issues it's perfectly normal to eliminate free speech and demand only the party line. So what's the big deal about letting Muslims cut themselves in on a little of that action?
Why would you expect people who see nothing wrong with destroying a mom'n'pop bakery over its antipathy to gay wedding cakes to have any philosophical commitment to diversity of opinion? And once you no longer have any philosophical commitment to it it's easy to see it the way Miliband and Cotler do - as a rusty cog in the societal machinery that can be shaved and sliced millimeter by millimeter.
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"Stay quiet and you'll be okay:" Those were Mohammed Atta's words to his passengers on 9/11. And they're what all the nice respectable types are telling us now.
"Stay Quiet and You'll Be Okay" :: SteynOnline
Man accused of plotting to behead conservative blogger an 'idiot': Defence
Alanna Durkin Richer, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:47 AM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 09:26 PM EDT
BOSTON — A man accused of participating in a plot to behead conservative blogger Pamela Geller became consumed by Islamic State group propaganda because he was overweight, lonely and desperate for an escape from his bleak life, his defence attorney said Wednesday.
Federal authorities say David Wright conspired with his uncle and a third man to kill Geller on behalf of the terrorist group because they were upset she organized a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas. The plot was never carried out. Wright also wanted to conduct other attacks in the U.S. and encouraged his uncle to kill police officers, officials say.
Wright’s attorney told jurors during her opening statement he was never really interested in helping the Islamic State group or committing violence. When Wright was allegedly plotting with the other men, he weighed more than 500 pounds, lived with his mother and had no career, Jessica Hedges said.
In the online world of the Islamic State group, he found the attention he was craving and the ability to pretend he was someone else, she said. He was a “complete idiot,” but he is not guilty, she said.
“In 2015, David felt very, very fat, very failed, and was living in a world of fantastical ideas,” Hedges told jurors at the federal courthouse in Boston. “He hid behind screens, looking for an escape, looking for a distraction from who he really was.”
Wright, 28, is charged with obstruction of justice, conspiring to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization and conspiring to commit acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries. He could face up to life in prison if convicted.
Prosecutors attempted to portray Wright as the ringleader of the conspiracy, arguing he recruited his uncle Ussamah Rahim, of Boston, and another man, Nicholas Rovinski, of Warwick, Rhode Island, to help him commit attacks.
The three men agreed to kill Geller in the summer of 2015 after the cartoon contest in suburban Dallas, prosecutors say. During the contest, two other men opened fire outside and wounded a security guard before they were killed in a shootout with law enforcement assigned to guard the event.
In May of that year, Wright met with Rahim and Rovinski for more than two hours on a secluded Rhode Island beach and discussed plans to kill Geller, according to the indictment.
Days later, Rahim told Wright he couldn’t wait to attack Geller and decided instead to go after “those boys in blue,” referring to police, Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephanie Siegmann told jurors.
Wright, of Everett, encouraged his uncle to attack police and die as a “martyr,” she said. He also instructed Rahim to destroy his cellphone and wipe all the data from his computer, Siegmann said. Hours later, Rahim was approached by officers in a Boston parking lot and was fatally shot after he pulled out a knife and moved toward them, officials say.
Authorities say Rahim received instructions about the plot to kill Geller from Junaid Hussain, an Islamic State member and hacker who was later killed in an airstrike in Syria. Rahim then passed along Hussain’s instructions to Wright, prosecutors say.
Wright wanted to wage other attacks in the U.S. and inflict more damage than was caused by the Boston Marathon bombing because, in his words, “that was not sufficient,” Seigmann said.
Wright told another person online that he was among dozens of Islamic State fighters in the U.S. who were ready to act, Siegmann said. The person Wright was chatting with was secretly working for the FBI and is expected to testify in Wright’s trial.
Rovinski pleaded guilty in September to conspiracy charges and faces between 15 and 22 years in prison.
Rovinski, who has cerebral palsy and walks with a limp, took the stand Wednesday and told jurors that during their meeting on the beach Wright told him Geller “deserved to be beheaded” because she insulted Muhammad.
Wright looked down at a table and showed little emotion while the lawyers spoke.
His attorney conceded that many of the things Wright read and said are “upsetting.” But Wright never injured anyone and his words alone are not enough to convict him, she said.
Man accused of plotting to behead conservative blogger an 'idiot': Defence | Wor
Alanna Durkin Richer, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:47 AM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 09:26 PM EDT
BOSTON — A man accused of participating in a plot to behead conservative blogger Pamela Geller became consumed by Islamic State group propaganda because he was overweight, lonely and desperate for an escape from his bleak life, his defence attorney said Wednesday.
Federal authorities say David Wright conspired with his uncle and a third man to kill Geller on behalf of the terrorist group because they were upset she organized a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas. The plot was never carried out. Wright also wanted to conduct other attacks in the U.S. and encouraged his uncle to kill police officers, officials say.
Wright’s attorney told jurors during her opening statement he was never really interested in helping the Islamic State group or committing violence. When Wright was allegedly plotting with the other men, he weighed more than 500 pounds, lived with his mother and had no career, Jessica Hedges said.
In the online world of the Islamic State group, he found the attention he was craving and the ability to pretend he was someone else, she said. He was a “complete idiot,” but he is not guilty, she said.
“In 2015, David felt very, very fat, very failed, and was living in a world of fantastical ideas,” Hedges told jurors at the federal courthouse in Boston. “He hid behind screens, looking for an escape, looking for a distraction from who he really was.”
Wright, 28, is charged with obstruction of justice, conspiring to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization and conspiring to commit acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries. He could face up to life in prison if convicted.
Prosecutors attempted to portray Wright as the ringleader of the conspiracy, arguing he recruited his uncle Ussamah Rahim, of Boston, and another man, Nicholas Rovinski, of Warwick, Rhode Island, to help him commit attacks.
The three men agreed to kill Geller in the summer of 2015 after the cartoon contest in suburban Dallas, prosecutors say. During the contest, two other men opened fire outside and wounded a security guard before they were killed in a shootout with law enforcement assigned to guard the event.
In May of that year, Wright met with Rahim and Rovinski for more than two hours on a secluded Rhode Island beach and discussed plans to kill Geller, according to the indictment.
Days later, Rahim told Wright he couldn’t wait to attack Geller and decided instead to go after “those boys in blue,” referring to police, Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephanie Siegmann told jurors.
Wright, of Everett, encouraged his uncle to attack police and die as a “martyr,” she said. He also instructed Rahim to destroy his cellphone and wipe all the data from his computer, Siegmann said. Hours later, Rahim was approached by officers in a Boston parking lot and was fatally shot after he pulled out a knife and moved toward them, officials say.
Authorities say Rahim received instructions about the plot to kill Geller from Junaid Hussain, an Islamic State member and hacker who was later killed in an airstrike in Syria. Rahim then passed along Hussain’s instructions to Wright, prosecutors say.
Wright wanted to wage other attacks in the U.S. and inflict more damage than was caused by the Boston Marathon bombing because, in his words, “that was not sufficient,” Seigmann said.
Wright told another person online that he was among dozens of Islamic State fighters in the U.S. who were ready to act, Siegmann said. The person Wright was chatting with was secretly working for the FBI and is expected to testify in Wright’s trial.
Rovinski pleaded guilty in September to conspiracy charges and faces between 15 and 22 years in prison.
Rovinski, who has cerebral palsy and walks with a limp, took the stand Wednesday and told jurors that during their meeting on the beach Wright told him Geller “deserved to be beheaded” because she insulted Muhammad.
Wright looked down at a table and showed little emotion while the lawyers spoke.
His attorney conceded that many of the things Wright read and said are “upsetting.” But Wright never injured anyone and his words alone are not enough to convict him, she said.
Man accused of plotting to behead conservative blogger an 'idiot': Defence | Wor