Self Defence in Canada?

Ron in Regina

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Very cool. When I was rock crushing, I would absolutely destroy cheap work boots in six months, and the expensive ones would last the better part of the year.

Out of the last half a dozen pairs, my favourites where actually made by Michelin, and they were awesome (!!) and I got a little over a year with them.
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I've had the same custom made pair for 38 years.

Wanna kiss my vamp?
I have no idea how long Daytons would’ve lasted me.
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But I was hard on work boots & can’t fathom 38 years on the same pair of boots.
 
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Very cool. When I was rock crushing, I would absolutely destroy cheap work boots in six months, and the expensive ones would last the better part of the year.

Out of the last half a dozen pairs, my favourites where actually made by Michelin, and they were awesome (!!) and I got a little over a year with them.
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I have no idea how long Daytons would’ve lasted me.
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But I was hard on work boots & can’t fathom 38 years on the same pair of boots.
Dayton bought out Pierre Paris who made killer workbooks. Another custom line offered by Dayton. 8 years before an issue with the sole. I sent them back for repairs saying "I broots not boots. They redid all the stitching and used bias-ply snow tires for soles. Two more years then gone when my truck was stolen.

Best work boots ever.

 
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Ron in Regina

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From what I heard a couple days ago, the guy who broke in, climbed up a fire escape, then broken into the suite through a window window, which turns out to be the window into this guy’s daughter’s room. The daughter wasn’t home, but the guy who came in was carrying a crossbow.

Some kind of confrontation occurred. The tenant had a knife vs the guy breaking in with his crossbow. Both ended up charged.
It was just a few hours after a man woke in the middle of an August night to find an alleged home invader with a crossbow in his apartment that police charged the resident with using a knife to defend himself.

The home invasion happened at 3:20 on the morning of Aug. 18, in Lindsay, Ont. At around 1 p.m, the Kawartha Lakes Police Service posted a news release announcing that the apartment resident had been charged with aggravated assault and assault with a weapon. (The alleged invader, too, was charged with various offences.)

Trust us, says the Kawartha police chief, there’s more to it, and the right to self-defence is not unlimited. True enough, but why rush to a decision to charge? How thorough can an investigation be in such a short time? How much time to assess, to reflect, to consider?

This is not just about one incident and one police service. A similar pattern has been found over and over again. And that’s despite a law developed by the Conservative government of Stephen Harper in 2012 that was supposed to make clear that reasonable acts of self-defence are permissible.

In at least four hair-raising cases, when the invaded turned the tables on the invader, they faced serious charges for doing so, only to have to prosecutors withdraw the charges.
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There is something seriously wrong here. The people who have faced armed intruders are being forced to confront yet another terrifying foe, the state, and to bear the stress of a possible jail sentence, and the expense of hiring a lawyer. It borders on the abusive when charges are laid and withdrawn again and again.

For nearly a century, Canadian courts have been defining and refining the doctrine of “proportionality:” You have the right to defend yourself, your loved ones and your property only up to the level of violence needed to repel the attacker, nothing more.

According to the RCMP, in those jurisdictions they patrol across the country, “the average response time” is just over 21 minutes. A little less reassuring — just over 15 per cent of high priority calls (911 calls) “are responded to in approximately five minutes.”

The numbers are similar for most major metropolitan police services.

The question them becomes, what are you supposed to do in those five to 20 minutes if there’s a lunatic loose in your home? Use your words? Explain you sympathize because of the rough childhood he may have had? Offer tea?
Now Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives want to change the Criminal Code so the default presumption by police and Crown prosecutors has to be that when repelling an intruder a homeowner was justified in his or her actions. It should no longer be incumbent on the homeowner to establish he or she did only what was necessary, no more.