Self Defence in Canada?

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Well I guess what I was getting at was that the law really can't stop us from acting or keep us in line, however the chance you're dealing with an insane person can be a greater influence on keeping us in line. And most of the time we don't know who the fuck we're dealing with!
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Ever notice how polite people are though where everyone can carry a gun?
Everybody in Tombstone carried a gun. Down to the OK Corral.

(Ironically, that's not true. Tombstone, like many towns, had an ordinance forbidding going armed within town limits.)
 
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Ron in Regina

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In this day of high administrative costs and the pressure to keep those down, police are urged not to lay charges of a decent chance o conviction is absent. So back to my original question, what motivated the police to lay charges against Mr. McDonald ?
At this point, we really don’t know.

My first thought was it’s another example of anti-vigilanteism but that’s just a gut feeling reaction on my part based on pattern recognition, so it doesn’t mean it has any basis in reality in this situation.
We might have to circle back to this thread in about a year or so. The key names for a Google search at that point so far would probably be:
1) Jeremy David McDonald
2) Michael Kyle Breen
3) the term, “Lindsay Ontario Self Defence”
(YouTube & Man charged after allegedly assaulting home intruder)

The Police have some motivation from judgement call to policy to politics for charging Mr McDonald, & we just don’t know what that is at this point in time.

The test in s. 34 requires three elements:
  1. Reasonable Belief (s. 34(1)(a)): "the accused must reasonably believe that force or threat of force is being used against him or someone else";
  2. Defensive Purpose (s. 34(1)(b)): "the subjective purpose for responding to the threat must be to protect oneself or others; and"
  3. Reasonable Response (s. 34(1)(c)): "the act committed must be objectively reasonable in the circumstances".
 

petros

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At this point, we really don’t know.

My first thought was it’s another example of anti-vigilanteism but that’s just a gut feeling reaction on my part based on pattern recognition, so it doesn’t mean it has any basis in reality in this situation.

(YouTube & Man charged after allegedly assaulting home intruder)

The Police have some motivation from judgement call to policy to politics for charging Mr McDonald, & we just don’t know what that is at this point in time.

The test in s. 34 requires three elements:
  1. Reasonable Belief (s. 34(1)(a)): "the accused must reasonably believe that force or threat of force is being used against him or someone else";
  2. Defensive Purpose (s. 34(1)(b)): "the subjective purpose for responding to the threat must be to protect oneself or others; and"
  3. Reasonable Response (s. 34(1)(c)): "the act committed must be objectively reasonable in the circumstances".
There have been similar incidents in the past without charges including killing the intruder (Calgary I think). These charges will be dropped.
 
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Yup. Alberta

 

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Probably hanging around down at the Criminals' Club having an impromptu party.
Ivanhoe and others the party started 11am everything is for sale cheap . Those were the days . If downtown Vancouver was to far the Turf or the Dell were closer to the suburbs . Yes party on .
 

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Ivanhoe and others the party started 11am everything is for sale cheap . Those were the days . If downtown Vancouver was to far the Turf or the Dell were closer to the suburbs . Yes party on .
Why did the Indian cross the road? To het from the Cobalt to the American.

Poncho and Lefties!!! They wouldn't let me in the Dell cuz I wore Daytons.
 

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Why did the Indian cross the road? To het from the Cobalt to the American.

Poncho and Lefties!!! They wouldn't let me in the Dell cuz I wore Daytons.
The American and Cobalt , just down the road from Ivanhoe . Those were the days .
 
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