Second Choice Nation: After Canada, you would live in?

CDNBear

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well good for you!

I hate many aspects of this nation...but deep down I am proud

Always feel proud during our anthem (even know its not the best in the world :))
And I believe its the most beautiful nation on earth

Its I get frusterated with the current state of politics up here, thats why I come off as anti-Canadian.

I am more of a fan of American politics (not much anymore after war fiasco)

My roots are:

Born in Canada
Parents born in Canada
then my family goes back to:

USA
British Channel Islands
Scotland
Wales

Pretty white british lol!
Nothing wrong with roots my friend, no matter where the seed came from, once planted, they should not be upheaved.

Mine were planted eons ago, fed with blood and if moved, would wither and die. So be it.
 

Tonington

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You can take the Bear out of CDNBear, but you can't take the CDN out of CDNBear.
 

CDNBear

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You can take the Bear out of CDNBear, but you can't take the CDN out of CDNBear.
Nope
 

westmanguy

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Yeah thats what I thought

"GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"

American.

lol, i think it was a mistake on CDNBear's part.
 

westmanguy

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North Korea
Iran
Iraq
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Syria
Israel
Jordan
Rawanda


Worth seeing or living in? I think not (takes his cue)
 

tracy

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North Korea
Iran
Iraq
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Syria
Israel
Jordan
Rawanda


Worth seeing or living in? I think not (takes his cue)

You think Israel isn't worth seeing? It's where your church was founded. I can't think of a country with a more important history!

And Jordan is one of my dream trips. Have you ever seen pictures of Petra? You should google it if you haven't. It's amazing what such an ancient civilization was able to build.
 

tracy

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Personally, I think it would be fascinating to live in ANY country. I think every country has pros and cons, and all countries are worth seeing, if not living in.

I was an exchange student when I was 18 and lived in the Czech Republic for a year. It was such an enriching experience. I wish everyone could live someplace foreign, even if only for a little while. It certainly gave me a new perspective on some things.
 

westmanguy

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Yeah its OK to see these places.

But Live in North Korea? Iran? Syria? Jordan? Israel

LIVE?
 

tracy

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Yeah its OK to see these places.

But Live in North Korea? Iran? Syria? Jordan? Israel

LIVE?

For a short time, yes... not the rest of my life or anything. If I had the chance to live in Iran, Syria, Jordan or Israel for 6 months or a year I'd take it, just for the experience alone. I don't think North Korea would appeal to me mind you.
 

westmanguy

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These places are rogue governments, dictatorships, and constant violence

Not a place any sane person would CHOOSE to live in,
 

tracy

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These places are rogue governments, dictatorships, and constant violence

Not a place any sane person would CHOOSE to live in,

Israel and Jordan don't have rogue governments, aren't dictatorships and saying they are in constant violence is a complete exaggeration. I'm probably just as likely (if not more likely) to get killed here. We had an 18 month old admitted to our local hospital last night with a gunshot wound to the face. She was in the car with her mom and got caught in some crossfire. I can't even guess at how many shootings and murders happened in the LA area that didn't make the news yesterday, yet I live a very nice life here. Watching news reports about any area will always make it seem like they are in constant violence. It's why my parents were so nervous when I moved here. Then they came down and realized that their view was a little skewed.

Even Iran and Syria with their crazy governments aren't involved in any wars at the moment. Perhaps the only benefit of a dictatorship is the crime rates tend to be kept pretty low since they punish offenders so aggressively.
 

Niflmir

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Israel and Jordan don't have rogue governments, aren't dictatorships and saying they are in constant violence is a complete exaggeration. I'm probably just as likely (if not more likely) to get killed here. We had an 18 month old admitted to our local hospital last night with a gunshot wound to the face. She was in the car with her mom and got caught in some crossfire. I can't even guess at how many shootings and murders happened in the LA area that didn't make the news yesterday, yet I live a very nice life here. Watching news reports about any area will always make it seem like they are in constant violence. It's why my parents were so nervous when I moved here. Then they came down and realized that their view was a little skewed.

Even Iran and Syria with their crazy governments aren't involved in any wars at the moment. Perhaps the only benefit of a dictatorship is the crime rates tend to be kept pretty low since they punish offenders so aggressively.

I commend your rejection of the "democracy is better, without question" assumption.

It seems to me that I picked Germany a long time ago. That's where I am living today! Germany is nice. One interesting thing about it here, I don't speak German yet and most people don't seem to be offended by that. Yet, in the USA and to a lesser extent Canada, people can become sorely offended at a tourist or foreign resident that doesn't speak English good.

I don't like the pretentiousness of the American academy. Nor do I like their "number of publications" as a measurement of academic success. Also, (and indeed for most fields in physics) there are better schools in Germany.
 

ottawabill

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geez, the reaction too all this is as lame and useles as referendum debate in Quebec.

1st, why is it to be a good Canadian you must be anti American? As well why is it that if you like the U.S. you must be a bad Canadian?

My second choose..and yes SECOND CHOICE in countries is the U.S. however not all of the U.S. the same as there are areas of Canada I do not wish to live in.

I live in Eastern Ontario, and find very little difference between the towns on my side of the St. LAwernce River to the Upstate New York towns. Too the point of having to see which flag is flying to be sure. On the other end I do not wish to live in Texas, nor do i wish to live in Sask. (no offence) but personally the life style is further from mine in the mid west then it is in Odgensburg N.Y.

As well all I here is complete stereotypes. The crime, the racisim.... If you good to Toronto or Montreal its full of guns, crime and racist activities, Hell Nova Scotia has some pretty severe racial problems, but thats not what we want to here..we must be better than they or whats the sence in our being... My God what if Hillary wins the president's chair and puts in national health care..then how will we define ourselves..

It's rediculous!!! We are a great nation, we have our peoblems, we have our fantastic good points and qualities, but our self concience ways are our downfall....You never here Austrailians say they are great because Britain is not!

Some of you may want to spend some time across the border and just talk to the people before you form all these opionions based on what G.W. Bush says. He doesn't speak for all any more then Harper speaks for all the Liberal Canadians. Go see, go listen, then form your thoughts...