Scheer going to India to 'repair' relationship after 'disastrous' Trudeau trip

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The foreign ministers met on Thursday but made no mention of Canada in their press conference.

The US, UK and Australia have urged Delhi to cooperate in the investigation but stopped short of critising India, which is seen by them as bulwark against China's rise in Asia.

The way the West backed Delhi at the recent G20 summit was a clear indication that it wants India to be a viable counterweight to China.

But it will be a strategic headache for them if it comes to a point where they have to choose between India and Canada. So far, the UK, the US and Australia have given calculated statements.
 
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Cyberattacks hit military, Parliament websites as India hacker group targets Canada
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Dylan Robertson
Published Sep 28, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read

OTTAWA — The federal government is coping with cyberattacks this week, as a hacker group in India claims it has sowed chaos in Ottawa _ but Canada’s signals-intelligence agency says the “nuisance” attacks likely haven’t put private information at risk.


The attacks seem to have hit institutions controlled by the government, but not the core infrastructure from which federal departments and agencies operate.


The Canadian Armed Forces says its website became unavailable to mobile users midday Wednesday, but was fixed within a few hours.

The military said the site is separate from government servers used by the Department of Defence and internal military networks. The incident remains under investigation.

“We have no indication of broader impacts to our systems,” said a statement from spokeswoman Andree-Anne Poulin.

Defence Minister Bill Blair confirmed the incident was a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack, which is when bots swarm a website with multiple visits and cause it to stop loading properly.


“That’s a very common thing that happens, unfortunately, often. But our cyberofficials and security officials acted very, very quickly,” he said Thursday.

“It was a minor inconvenience, and there is further work going on that we will eventually make a determination on.”

Meanwhile, various pages on the House of Commons website continued to load slowly or incompletely on Thursday due to an ongoing DDoS attack that officials say started Monday morning.

“House of Commons systems responded as planned to protect our network and IT infrastructure. However, some websites may be unresponsive for a short period,” spokeswoman Amelie Crosson said in a written statement Thursday morning.

“The House of Commons IT support team, in collaboration with our partners, have implemented mitigating measures and restored services to appropriate service levels. The IT team is still continuously monitoring for such activities.”


She added that the Commons administration is helping their Senate colleagues “to provide guidance and support them to restore services.”

Elections Canada also experienced roughly an hour-long denial-of-service attack starting around midnight early Wednesday, Ottawa time.

“This website does not host any sensitive data or information. It is separate from our main website, elections.ca, and is hosted by an external service provider. It is in no way connected to the network that supports elections.ca,” the agency wrote in a statement.

“Our systems are monitored in real time both internally, and by the Canadian Cyber Security Centre, enabling us to quickly detect any anomalies on our platforms and systems. They are aware of the incident.”


That centre is under the umbrella of the Communications Security Establishment, Canada’s signals-intelligence agency, which said it generally doesn’t confirm specific incidents and focuses on the type of behaviour, rather than attributing attacks.

“In general, DDoS activity is a nuisance event that very rarely puts information at risk and has no permanent impact on systems,” said spokesman Ryan Foreman.

“Geopolitical events often result in an increase in disruptive cyber campaigns. We continue to monitor for any developing cyber threats and share threat-information with our partners and stakeholders to help prevent incidents.”

The centre had warned Sept. 15 of “several” DDoS campaigns “over the last few days” targeting Ottawa, the provinces and the financial and transportation sectors. It renewed that warning on Sept. 22 as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited Canada.


Meanwhile, the Ottawa Hospital said it experienced “a brief interruption on our external websites” Tuesday morning, but no systems were breached. “The sites were quickly up and running and we are investigating the nature of the outage,” spokeswoman Rebecca Abelson wrote.

A hacking group named Indian Cyber Force claimed responsibility for the incidents involving the military, the hospital and Elections Canada, and it appeared to have managed to infiltrate a handful of websites owned by small businesses in Canada.

The group made reference to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau telling Parliament on Sept. 18 that there were “credible allegations” of Indian involvement in the killing of Sikh independence activist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, who had been wanted by India for years and was gunned down in June outside the temple he led.


The hacking group has posted multiple versions of a message riddled with spelling and grammatical errors onto websites of restaurants and medical clinics.

The affected sites show a message on a black background with green digits, similar to the film “The Matrix,” as warlike music plays.

The message described Canada as a haven for terrorists — a “heaven hub,” it said in butchered English — and similarly insulted Sikh separatists.

It also criticized Trudeau for “throwing something without any prove,” or proof.

The hacking group also claimed to have taken downthe Global Affairs Canada website for travel advisories,but the department insists this hasn’t happened, and the group deleted that claim from its account on the social-media application Telegram.


News of the attacks came as questions abounded over Indian officials’ level of co-operation with Canadian officials over Trudeau’s allegations — and to what extent allies such as the United States were advocating on Canada’s behalf.

On Thursday, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken met with India’s foreign-affairs minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar.

Neither of them made mention of the controversy in Canada when they emerged briefly to pose for photos before their meeting began.

During a State Department briefing prior to that meeting, spokesman Matthew Miller refused to speculate on what the secretary would tell Jaishankar directly.

“What I will say, however, is we have consistently engaged with the Indian government on this question and have urged them to co-operate, and that engagement and urging them to co-operate will continue,” Miller said.

“We urge them to co-operate with the Canadian investigation.”

Miller flatly refused comment when asked about a television interview last week with U.S. ambassador to Canada David Cohen, who confirmed that Canada received intelligence from one of its Five Eyes security partners.

“I am not going to speak to intelligence matters from the podium.”
 

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This is It The Injun Gubmint has the Goods on Trudeau the cokehead

Trudeau's plane had cocaine during G20, former Indian diplomat claims


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau attends a press conference after the closing session of the G20 summit in New Delhi, Sept. 10, 2023.

A former Indian diplomat says there is a “credible rumour” that Justin Trudeau’s plane “was full of cocaine” during the recent G20 meeting in New Delhi and that the prime minister “has definitely gone insane.”

“When Justin Trudeau came to India for the G20 this month, his plane was full of cocaine,” Vohra said during a debate show hosted by journalist Deepak Chaurasia on Zee News. “He did not come out of his room for two days.”

Vohra also criticized Trudeau for having little knowledge of international relations and said he behaves like a small child.

“In his parliament address, he used the words ‘credible allegations’ against India,” Vohra said. “How can allegations be credible? Either it can be credible or an allegation. I also have a ‘credible rumour’ to make in this case that ‘Trudeau is crazy.’ It is a credible rumour.”

Vohra alleged police sniffer dogs discovered cocaine on Trudeau’s plane during the intergovernmental forum in early September.

“My wife saw him at the Delhi airport and said that Trudeau looked depressed and stressed,” Vohra continued. “We don’t know the reason. I don’t know the reality, but social media and some ‘credible rumours’ suggest that his plane was full of cocaine.

“He has become lonely. He is now trying to show that he is a Canadian Rambo and nothing can go wrong in his presence. India has done the right thing by suspending visa services in Canada.”
The post in #133 and it’s claim is an Allegation, credible or not.
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It’s really really (really) past the point of throwing around accusations without having any evidence to back them up.
Allegations....

The Prime Minister’s Office has dismissed comments from a former Indian diplomat, who says there is a “credible rumour” that Justin Trudeau’s plane “was full of cocaine” during the recent G20 meeting in New Delhi.

Deepak Vohra, a former Indian ambassador to Sudan, made the accusations Monday on Indian television.

In a statement, the PMO denied the unsubstantiated claim.

“This (is) absolutely false and a troubling example of how disinformation can make its way into media reporting.”

Vohra, meanwhile, criticized Trudeau for having little knowledge of international relations and said he behaves like a small child.

Last week, Trudeau told the House of Commons that Canadian intelligence services are investigating “credible” information about “a potential link” between the government of India and the murder of British Columbia Sikh leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar.

“In his parliament address, he used the words ‘credible allegations’ against India,” Vohra said. “How can allegations be credible? Either it can be credible or an allegation. I also have a ‘credible rumour’ to make in this case that ‘Trudeau is crazy.’ It is a credible rumour.”

India has warned its citizens to exercise the “utmost caution” when attempting to covertly assassinate people in Canada.

In a statement issued on its website, India’s Ministry of External Affairs urged Indian nationals in Canada and those thinking of travelling there to “be extremely careful” when plotting to commit targeted extrajudicial murders.

“Indian citizens, particularly those looking to shoot people, should avoid the following regions in Canada due to high levels of police: cities, towns, trains, airplanes, buses, sportsevents, concerts, protests, homelessencampments, Winnipeg, and (especially) donut shops” reads the statement, which urged extra caution “especially during the day.”
 

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Indian politicians never fail to disappoint in sinking to new lows

Nijjar was gay, Trudeau liked him: BJP leader Bagga makes sensational claim amid India-Canada standoff

His statement comes amid a diplomatic standoff between India and Canada that ensued after Trudeau alleged the Indian government was involved in Nijjar's killing.

Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha (BJYM) national secretary Tejinder Pall Singh Bagga on Monday made a sensational claim, saying killed Sikh separatist Hardeep Singh Nijjar was gay and that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau used to like him.
 

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India orders Canada to remove 41 diplomats from Delhi embassy​

Relations between countries continue to fracture over alleged assassination of Sikh separatist in British Columbia

Hannah Ellis-Petersen in Delhi and Leyland Cecco in Toronto

Tue 3 Oct 2023 08.46 EDT

India has told Canada it must remove 41 diplomats from its embassy in Delhi amid a continuing diplomatic spat over Canadian accusations that India may have been involved in the killing of a Sikh separatist leader.
According to officials who spoke to the Financial Times, the Indian foreign ministry has given Canada a week to repatriate two-thirds of its diplomats stationed in India, reducing the number to 21. India’s ministry of external affairs declined to comment. An official familiar with the matter confirmed the report to the Associated Press.
 

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Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly urged India on Tuesday to thaw frosty bilateral relations through “private” diplomatic talks after New Delhi reportedly ordered two-thirds of Canadian diplomats out of the country.

Private? Like the example Justin made of private? Diplomatic private talks?
The mass expulsion comes as Indo-Canadian relations have sunk to a new low in the aftermath of allegations from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that agents of India were involved in the killing of a British Columbia Sikh leader who advocated for a separate Sikh country in the Indian state of Punjab. That kind of private diplomatic talk?
 

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Ms. Joly said she does not want to get into a “public” discussion over the expulsion of Canadian diplomats.

“We will continue to engage “privately” because we think that diplomatic conversations are best when they remain “private.””

The Canadian government has not said whether it will release classified intelligence to buttress Mr. Trudeau’s allegations that agents of India killed Mr. Nijjar (Which he didn’t do “privately” or through “diplomatic channels”).

Britain, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates publicly released intelligence, including video evidence, when they alleged agents of Russia, Saudi Arabia and Israel, respectively, carried out state-sanctioned killings in those countries.
 

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On Tuesday, Trudeau and Foreign Minister Melanie Joly indicated that they did not want to fuel tensions with India “by speaking about them publicly” — a sharp contrast with the open claims against India that the prime minister made in parliament.

On Tuesday, shortly after a report said New Delhi had asked Canada to withdraw 41 diplomats from India – most of the 62 Canadian diplomats in the country – by October 10, Joly took a less confrontational approach.

She said Canada and India remain in contact and Ottawa prefers a “private” resolution.

“We take Canadian diplomats’ safety very seriously and we will continue to engage “privately” because we think diplomatic conversations are best when they remain “private,”” she told reporters.
 

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Take a tour of Surrey.
Got an APC we could borrow?
Interesting comments, which made me look a little further into this shooting, & now I’m curious as to what type of firearm was used to shoot Nijjar. He was shot in the parking lot, & and they didn’t hear it in the temple?

The attackers—two of them in hooded sweatshirts—fired roughly 50 bullets, of which 34 hit Nijjar.
After watching the third video above, I’ve come to wonder, wouldn’t Nijjar make the perfect martyr for the Khalistan movement, as long as he was shut up?
  • Another Gurdwara committee member Malkit Singh told the news outlet that he saw two hooded men running toward neighbouring Cougar Creek Park. He chased them through the park. He claimed that they were wearing “a Sikh get-up", with hoodies pulled over small pughs on their heads and masks over their “bearded faces". They got into a waiting silver car in which three other men were already waiting, Malkit was quoted as saying.
  • http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...port-claims-citing-video-101695706305727.html
  • “Justinder”….OK, that was funny!!
  • “Today we learned of allegations that agents of the Indian Government murdered Hardeep Singh Nijjar — a Canadian killed on Canadian soil. To all Canadians, this is my vow. I will leave no stone unturned in the pursuit of justice, including holding Narendra Modiaccountable," Jagmeet Singh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).
  • We have not seen any evidence yet. It still remains an allegation that Trudeau announced very publicly, but without public evidence to support the allegation…
  • The Sikh community in Canada, though only about 2% of the population of the nation, due to its geographical distribution, potentially accounts for about 12 seats in each Federal election…
 
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Interesting comments, which made me look a little further into this shooting, & now I’m curious as to what type of firearm was used to shoot Nijjar. He was shot in the parking lot, & and they didn’t hear it in the temple?

The attackers—two of them in hooded sweatshirts—fired roughly 50 bullets, of which 34 hit Nijjar.
After watching the third video above, I’ve come to wonder, wouldn’t Nijjar make the perfect martyr for the Khalistan movement, as long as he was shut up?
  • Another Gurdwara committee member Malkit Singh told the news outlet that he saw two hooded men running toward neighbouring Cougar Creek Park. He chased them through the park. He claimed that they were wearing “a Sikh get-up", with hoodies pulled over small pughs on their heads and masks over their “bearded faces". They got into a waiting silver car in which three other men were already waiting, Malkit was quoted as saying.
  • http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...port-claims-citing-video-101695706305727.html
  • “Justinder”….OK, that was funny!!
  • “Today we learned of allegations that agents of the Indian Government murdered Hardeep Singh Nijjar — a Canadian killed on Canadian soil. To all Canadians, this is my vow. I will leave no stone unturned in the pursuit of justice, including holding Narendra Modiaccountable," Jagmeet Singh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).
  • We have not seen any evidence yet. It still remains an allegation that Trudeau announced very publicly, but without public evidence to support the allegation…
  • The Sikh community in Canada, though only about 2% of the population of the nation, due to its geographical distribution, potentially accounts for about 12 seats in each Federal election…
A pistol sounds nothing like what TV portrays.

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How Nijjar even got into the country is somewhat of a mystery. he was red flagged.
Calling him a Canadian citizen is an insult to Canadians, both native and immigrants that came here for a better life. Nijjar was here because it was safer to run a Sikh terrorist operation from Canada than India. , not because he shared any Canadian values.
Never thought about the martyr aspect. Makes sense.
 

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A pistol sounds nothing like what TV portrays.

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But 50-ish rounds fired, & 34 hit Nijjar? From two guys? Let’s average it out and say 25 from each (?) assuming they didn’t take the time to reload, repeatedly, etc…as this supposedly happened in about 20 seconds.

That would be 25 round magazines in these pistols or whatever then, which I’m sure Justinder Trudeaupal would frown upon, and ban, if they were ever legal in the first place, which I doubt they were.
 
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But 50-ish rounds fired, & 34 hit Nijjar? From two guys? Let’s average it out and say 25 from each (?) assuming they didn’t take the time to reload, repeatedly, etc…as this supposedly happened in about 20 seconds.

That would be 25 round magazines in these pistols or whatever then, which I’m sure Justinder Trudeaupal would frown upon, and ban, if they were ever legal in the first place, which I doubt they were.
You need to go to Surrey. A temple isn't a corner lot in a residential neighbourhood. These things are HUGE structures with high bay loading docks and the likes.

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Yeah, it’s huge. I get it. Second biggest in North America. I don’t need to go to Surrey to experience that. I’m with one of 5 or 6 Trucking companies in our building, & I’m one of the two white guys between all of the Trucking companies in our building. It is what it is & I’m good with that.

My point was that there were about 50 rounds popped off by two guys in about 20 seconds, that nobody noticed. Doesn’t sound like bolt action firearms with 5 round clips. I don’t pretend to know more that I do about firearms, but these don’t sound like Trudeau approved sporting tools. Nijjar was hit 34 times out’a about 50-ish rounds. Maybe that’s a clue? Maybe not. Sounds like a “Spray&Pray” that doesn’t fit with the current legal framework of Canada’s gun legislation.