say what? U.S. wants exemption from Canadian law for cross-border officers

[B00Mer]

How bloody stupid.

Americans and Canadians, it's about time to get your heads around the idea that having such a long border with such a good friend is a GOOD THING. Here's a crazy idea. . . how 'bout acting like good friends?

Glad you think that way.. but when I return to Canada from Texas I had a strong accent. I also found out there are plenty of Canadian's who do not particularly like US Citizens.

Still have the accent 2 years later.. just chant shake my Texas twang. "Can I get a sac with that"

The 22-yard-tall Peace Arch stands between the city of Blaine in Washington state, and the city of Surrey in the province of British Columbia, demarcating the boundary between the United States of America and the Dominion of Canada. The monument, built in 1921, commemorates the 1814 Treaty of Ghent re-establishing peace between the United States and the British Empire.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Glad you think that way.. but when I return to Canada from Texas I had a strong accent. I also found out there are plenty of Canadian's who do not particularly like US Citizens.

I don't care. A cursory review of our history will show that Canada and the U.S. are the best friends any two bordering countries could possibly hope for.

Conflicts? Sure, bound to happen. But would you rather be France with the Germans on the border, or China with the Russians on the border?

Just take a minute (both sides!) to recognize the realities.

You may now return to your screaming match.

 

[Mowich]

Impractical and radical. Several thousand miles of a fence or wall wont do much. There are rivers, lakes, mountain ranges. If people can get across those a little fence or wall wont be much work.

Exactly my point.

 

[Omicron]

Yeah. As we parents told our kids, "our house, our rules".

At the southern tip of the Alaskan pan-handle is a little American border-town called Hyder, and on the Canadian side is the Canadian border-town Stewart.

Occasians have happened when Hyder's Sheriff had something too big to handle alone, so he'd ask Stewart RCMP for help. The Sheriff would Deputize the Constables, who would then operated according the laws of Alaska.

How would Alaska like it if RCMP could cross into their territory and operate according to the jurisdictional laws of Canada?

Hmm... come to think of it, Alaskans might like that, given how RCMP might be somewhat more controlled and self-disciplined than some Alaskan Sheriffs.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

At the southern tip of the Alaskan pan-handle is a little American border-town called Hyder, and on the Canadian side is the Canadian border-town Stewart.

Occasians have happened when Hyder's Sheriff had something too big to handle alone, so he'd ask Stewart RCMP for help. The Sheriff would Deputize the Constables, who would then operated according the laws of Alaska.

How would Alaska like it if RCMP could cross into their territory and operate according to the jurisdictional laws of Canada?

Hmm... come to think of it, Alaskans might like that, given how RCMP might be somewhat more controlled and self-disciplined than some Alaskan Sheriffs.

Heck, that's nothing. Every day, Canadian firefighters cross the border to fight fires in U.S. border towns.

It's like I've been saying, our countries are close enough that a sheriff can deputise aliens to enforce the law.

In what way is this anything other than a good thing?

 

[B00Mer]

Heck, that's nothing. Every day, Canadian firefighters cross the border to fight fires in U.S. border towns.

It's like I've been saying, our countries are close enough that a sheriff can deputise aliens to enforce the law.

In what way is this anything other than a good thing?

So lets just remove the border and make it one country.. I mean that sound like what you're suggesting??

Each country has laws, those laws should be respected..

Firefighters crossing the border is humanitarian assistance, not law enforcement.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

No, the borders exist for sound historical and cultural reasons. I just want us to keep always in mind that we have the best cross-border neighbours any country has ever had in all history.

 

[Omicron]

Heck, that's nothing. Every day, Canadian firefighters cross the border to fight fires in U.S. border towns.

It's like I've been saying, our countries are close enough that a sheriff can deputise aliens to enforce the law.

In what way is this anything other than a good thing?

Exactly... cross-border back-scratching has been going on since the beginning, and it's never done anything but benefit both sides...

... But the understanding has always been that, it's based on mutual-respect.

When on the American side of the border, you're in the US, therefore everyone is subject to, and operates according to, American law. When you're on the Canadian side, you're in Canada, so everyone and everything is subject to Canadian law.

It's been working just fine, thankyou-very-much.

What happened to cause someone to think that that understanding should be tinkered with? Did I miss something?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Exactly... cross-border back-scratching has been going on since the beginning, and it's never done anything but benefit both sides...

... But the understanding has always been that, it's based on mutual-respect.

When on the American side of the border, you're in the US, therefore everyone is subject to, and operates according to, American law. When you're on the Canadian side of the border, you're in Canada, so everyone and everything is subject to Canadian law.

It's been working just fine, thankyou-very-much.

What happened to cause someone to think that that understanding should be tinkered with?

It's American overreach, and you have my complete support in telling the Yanks where and when to step off. All healthy relationships depend on setting boundaries.

 

[L Gilbert]

Heck, that's nothing. Every day, Canadian firefighters cross the border to fight fires in U.S. border towns.

....but still follow laws and the rules of engagement as far as fighting fires go are the same.

It's like I've been saying, our countries are close enough that a sheriff can deputise aliens to enforce the law.

In what way is this anything other than a good thing?

If all our laws were the same as well as our ways of treating lawbreakers, I would have no problems. Like I said, our house, our rules (and the rules apply to everyone).

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

....but still follow laws and the rules of engagement as far as fighting fires go are the same.

If all our laws were the same as well as our ways of treating lawbreakers, I would have no problems. Like I said, our house, our rules (and the rules apply to everyone).

Absolutely. See my previous post.

 

[EagleSmack]

Had an OPP guy call me and tell me he was gonna record our convo.

Was after money for whatever.

I didn't think they did that.

Told him to f*ck off and hung up.

I'm probably on "the list"

OPP? Your Local Police?

Told him to F* off... that cracked me up.

Finally and surprisingly a state law was passed stating that police can't do their own fundraising and now I tell the telemarketers to beat it.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

OPP? Your Local Police?

Yeah, Ontario Provincial Police. Under the Charter, all Canadian provinces have the absolute right (and duty) to set up police forces. Two have their own police forces, Ontario (the OPP) and Quebec (Surete Quebec). The others contract with the RCMP to provide provincial policing.

Of course, cities also have the authority to set up metropolitan police departments.

 

[EagleSmack]

What happened to cause someone to think that that understanding should be tinkered with? Did I miss something?

The US Police were just being tools... that's all.

When local Police came on our ship we disarmed them each and every time. Most could care less and checked their sidearms in our detachment... others reacted like we were asking for their d***s.

 

[Nuggler]

OPP? Your Local Police?

Told him to F* off... that cracked me up.

Finally and surprisingly a state law was passed stating that police can't do their own fundraising and now I tell the telemarketers to beat it.

Said he was calling on behalf of the OPP, but made is sound as if he was the police. Probably just a telemarketer; but I'm sure he got the message.
BTW, this used to be quite common, although hasn't happened lately at our house...................:roll:.


No, OPP = Ontario Provincial Police (sort of like a state trooper..........but more intelligent)lol.. More often than not a fine group. Easy to talk to and respond ASAP to emergency calls. That being said, I take great exception to someone trying to intimidate me on behalf of anyone. No doubt this guy was told to knock it off, as all their tele calls are monitored.

Still, I'm probably on the list.

Yeah, Ontario Provincial Police. Under the Charter, all Canadian provinces have the absolute right (and duty) to set up police forces. Two have their own police forces, Ontario (the OPP) and Quebec (Surete Quebec). The others contract with the RCMP to provide provincial policing.

Of course, cities also have the authority to set up metropolitan police departments.

Thanks Bony. I was really having trouble explaining what they are.

 

[B00Mer]

The Queens Cowboys in Canada are very capable of defending Canada's sovereignty and policing our people.. we don't need help from south of the border.

 

[tay]

If we don't agree to this what will Harper do?

 

[EagleSmack]

If we don't agree to this what will Harper do?

Oh... a doctored version of the Battle of New Orleans depicting the Andrew Jackson on the parapet. In the background the US Marines are kicking the sh** out of the Black Watch

 

[tay]

Tell that to the Mexicans and Salvadorans. America's borders are open to them without restriction.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlAD1vwHMR8

 

[Omicron]

If we don't agree to this what will Harper do?

Hard to say, given the Nullocracy (in terms of dialogue with press and the people) Harper is implementing, but one might be able to guestimate based upon his alliegence.