Savile - 'The Tip of the Iceberg'

[Stretch]

Oh, please, David Cameron, you know who the paedophiles are in your own party, past and present, so cut the moral bollocks, it's pathetic


Friday, 09 November 2012 11:04

When daytime TV presenter, Phillip Schofield, handed a list of potential paedophiles to Prime Minister Cameron, we had the feigned moral outrage when he knows who is a paedophile and who isn't, if anyone isn't, on the list, and this crap about a 'witch hunt' is just an attempt to deflect attention from the fact that he knows, just like his current Foreign Secretary and former party leader, William Hague knows, who in their party was named by victims as abusers of children in North Wales.
Cameron knows at least most of the paedophiles in his party (and the Labour and Liberal Democrat parties are just the same) and he knows that the party has been protecting them while knowing who they are and what they have done. All the rest is detail, smokescreen and cover up.
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Shocked UK Prime Minister David Cameron handed Tory paedophile list live On TV

Read and watch ...
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Mr Cameron, you know there was a cover-up of the establishment paedophile ring in North Wales children's homes, and much further afield, so please cut the crap and give the victims some justice at last

'... David Icke was banging on about how Jimmy Savile was a paedophile and supplied children to the rich and famous. How everyone laughed – hahahaha – David Icke! Look at him! Hahahaha! David Icke, he wears a turquoise shellsuit and he says silly things about how King Jimmy’s a paedophile! Hahahahaha! We’re laughing at him, not with him.
Oh, he was right all along? And this thing he’s saying about Prince Charles? Oh, the Guardian’s picked up on it. Sort of. They’ve taken a less forthright angle than Icke, but the premise is basically the same. Jimmy Savile ‘supplied’ guests for Prince Charles.
Our only worry is that if David Icke’s predictions are all true, then the Royal Family are a bunch of lizards from outer space who have taken over the world, and we’re living in a computer-controlled virtual reality matrix.
All of these predictions are slightly less worrying than the fact that there’s been a paedophile ring closely connected to the government and the Royal Family for all these years, and nobody did anything about it because the paedophiles in control were too powerful.'
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[Mowich]

Is there any responsible journalism left out there really?

I find that PBS, Knowledge, TVO and others are as close to responsible journalism as I can find on the tube though regional news channels are pretty straight forward in their reporting. There are responsible journalists in the print media but you have to read a lot to find them.

 

[CDNBear]

Our only worry is that if David Icke’s predictions are all true, then the Royal Family are a bunch of lizards from outer space who have taken over the world, and we’re living in a computer-controlled virtual reality matrix.

Than I guess Icke' pedo ring really isn't that big a deal, lol.

 

[SLM]

I find that PBS, Knowledge, TVO and others are as close to responsible journalism as I can find on the tube though regional news channels are pretty straight forward in their reporting. There are responsible journalists in the print media but you have to read a lot to find them.

We shouldn't have to 'hunt' that much to find integrity though. We are, in this day and age, overpopulated with media bombardments where sensationalism rules. It becomes discouraging.

Than I guess Icke' pedo ring really isn't that big a deal, lol.

Well not compared with lizard monarchs with an eye on computer driven matrix enslavements. Ya gots to have priorities after all.

 

[Blackleaf]

The BBC's leftwing bias, which sees it so desperate to see Conservatives get into trouble for some misdemeanour, has now got the BBC into trouble after it consistently declared on its news programmes that Thatcher's former adviser, Lord McAlpine, was a child abuser even though it had not a shred of evidence; after it could have cleared his name if it had actually contacted McAlpine or his family members who could have proven his innocence; and after it actually neglected to tell the public that Mr Missham, who accused McAlpine of sexually abusing him as a boy at the Bryn Estyn children's home in Wrexham, is a violent thug who once assaulted a magistrate and has actually falsely accused at least one other person of sexual abuse before.

It's right that George Entwistle has resigned as BBC boss - he only got the job in September which means he was the BBC's shortest-reigning Director-General ever - and it seems likely that Newsnight, which has been on our screens since 1980, may not survive past Christmas.

Newsnight apologises for Tory sex abuse claims

The BBC is forced to issue an apology after the key witness in a Newsnight report alleging that senior Tory Lord McAlpine was a paedophile admitted that he identified the wrong man.

The BBC has “unreservedly” apologised for broadcasting child sex abuse allegations that implicated Lord McAlpine.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9u5cG50AL-A

In a statement the BBC said of its 2 November Newsnight programme: “We broadcast Mr Messham’s claim but did not identify the individual concerned. Mr Messham has tonight made a statement that makes clear he wrongly identified his abuser and has apologised.

“We also apologise unreservedly for having broadcast this report.”

The apology was was read out in full at the start of last night’s Newsnight programme and the first section of the show was given over to the controversy.

Presenter Eddie Mair ended the programme by saying: “Newsnight will be back on Monday, probably.”

Lord McAlpine’s name circulated widely online after Mr Messham, a former resident of the Bryn Estyn care home in Wrexham, told the programme that he had been repeatedly abused by a high-ranking Tory politician. However, evidence emerged yesterday suggesting that the peer had been mistaken for another member of the McAlpine family.

Video: Newsnight apologises for Tory sex abuse claims - Telegraph

 

[Stretch]

so, the fact that this thread was moved to the news forum, does this mean that I'm going to be allowed to post threads in the news forum now???
some moderator can answer this

 

[Locutus]

Where would you like it moved to and why wouldn't you be able to post in this forum? Should it be merged with the similar Gary Glitter/Savile thread too?

 

[karrie]

Where would you like it moved to and why wouldn't you be able to post in this forum? Should it be merged with the similar Gary Glitter/Savile thread too?

Stretch has in the past been told not to publish articles that aren't news, ie. his huge plethora of conspiracy theory articles, in the news section. He of course disagrees because he thinks anything he reads has just happened and is breaking news, even when it's about events long past. His threads were lumped into on big conspiracy thread and removed from the news section. The fact that he has hit upon one that is a current news article is unlikely to convince Andem that the plethora of non-news articles, are.

 

[damngrumpy]

When it comes to news the reaction should be if its true let him sue.
A news outlet should never back down to threats if they have the
evidence. As for the statement someone made, that all pedophiles
are gay may well not be true.
This should be brought forward if someone is in politics and what would
be a criminal the public has a right to know.

 

[EagleSmack]

How does this relate to chem-trails?

Remember those days!? Day after day of Chem-Trail threads. Pages filled to the brim with every bit of chem-trail info that could be found on the net.

Good memory eh1eh

 

[Stretch]

Stretch has in the past been told not to publish articles that aren't news, ie. his huge plethora of conspiracy theory articles, in the news section. He of course disagrees because he thinks anything he reads has just happened and is breaking news, even when it's about events long past. His threads were lumped into on big conspiracy thread and removed from the news section. The fact that he has hit upon one that is a current news article is unlikely to convince Andem that the plethora of non-news articles, are.

Andem?

chemtrails are another thread, stop trying to fuse them!
plethora lol , Andem?

 

[tay]

Four ex-footballers have come forward to tell of the sexual abuse they suffered as children at the hands of coach Barry Bennell. Chris Unsworth and Jason Dunford gave their first interviews since waiving their anonymity on the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme.

Former players Steve Walters and Andy Woodward had earlier spoken of the abuse. Bennell, 62, has served three jail sentences for child sex offences.

Chris Unsworth, 44, says he had not spoken to anyone about the abuse he suffered until now.

"I kept it locked away right in the back of my head, but I am still reliving it," he said on Friday.

"But watching Andy [Woodward] on TV brought it home."

The former Manchester City youth player said Bennell's abuse began at the age of nine.
"It started in the car - he used to touch, play games on the way to training."

It later got "more serious" during sleepovers at Bennell's house, "where there was penetration", he said.

He said although he had been "raped between 50 and 100 times", no-one ever spoke about it.

Mr Unsworth moved to Crewe with Bennell at the age of 12 when he says he began to lose interest.

"Your body changes and that's when your time is up - he moves on to fresh blood."

Mr Unsworth, a funeral director, later became a golfer after leaving football at 16.

"I turned away from football - I'd had enough," he said.

Jason Dunford, who also spoke publicly for the first time on Friday, said Bennell tried to abuse him at a Butlin's holiday camp.
"I told him to get off me. I remember physically hitting him," he said. "After that he detached me from the group, saying he'd drop me."

A period of "isolation" and "mind games" followed, where Mr Dunford was prevented from playing and accused of stealing money.

"He fabricated stories about me amongst my team-mates," he said. "Do you really want to tell your parents you'd been accused of being a thief?"

Like "every boy on the settee", he had dreamt of being a professional footballer.

"I should be able to achieve that dream without having to go through sexual abuse or be around sexual predators," he said.

He compared Bennell's actions with those of Jimmy Savile, whose abuse victims could number in their several hundreds.

"Savile looks like a choirboy compared to this fella - this is so big," he said.

Football sex abuse victims: 'I was raped up to 100 times' - BBC News

 

[Curious Cdn]

Any Royals been caught fiddling, yet?

 

[bill barilko]

And yet another nasty old Briddish pervert dead

David Hamilton found dead amid allegations of historical rape
British photographer was known for his images of naked young girls, but some of his former models say his motives were far from innocent

On the Mediterranean beaches of Cap d’Agde, British photographer David Hamilton was a familiar figure in the 1980s looking for young girls to model for his pictures.

“Shopping” was the word he used and he knew what he was seeking: young, early teens, preferably blonde, blue-eyed and with pale, almost translucent skin; the epitome of the “age of innocence”, the title of one of his best-selling books.

Parents rarely refused when he asked if the youngsters could come to his studio to pose, honoured that their child had been spotted by a world-famous artist. But Hamilton’s motives, it has been claimed, were far from innocent.


On Friday evening, days after allegations resurfaced that he had raped and sexually abused a number of his young models, the London-born photographer, who had repeatedly denied the accusations, was found dead in his Paris home. Police reported that a bottle of medication was found nearby, and declared that Hamilton, 83, had taken his own life.

Radio and television journalist Flavie Flament, 42, who had recently gone public to claim Hamilton raped her 30 years ago when she was 13, declared she was “devastated” by his death and accused him of “cowardice”.

Flament’s claims, made in her recently published book, were vigorously denied by the photographer and her own mother, but three other women came forward anonymously to say Hamilton had raped and sexually assaulted them as girls.

On Saturday, Flament’s literary editor, Karina Hocine, said Hamilton’s death had condemned his victims to eternal silence. “Of course she is devastated ... they say it’s suicide, and of course as human beings we are divided between the horror of the situation and a feeling of immense revulsion, because he has not allowed justice to do its work,” Hocine told LCI radio.

A few hours after Hamilton’s death was announced, Flament issued a statement. It said: “I’ve just learned of the death of David Hamilton, the man who raped me when I was 13. The man who raped numerous young girls, some of whom have come forward with courage and emotion these last few weeks. I’m thinking of them, of the injustice that we were trying to fight together. By his cowardice, he has condemned us once more to silence and unable to see him condemned. The horror of this act will never wipe out the horror of our sleepless nights.”

Hamilton, who grew up in wartime London – spending some time as a child evacuee in Dorset – set out to be an architect. Instead, aged 20, he travelled to Paris to work as a graphic designer at French Elle and later became the art director of the grand magasin Printemps.

At the same time he began taking photographs, floaty, hazy images of pre- and early-pubescent girls nude or in transparent dresses in flowery, bucolic scenes, that became a recognisable style – the “Hamilton blur” – but were banned in some countries as pornographic.

One of the girls who came forward after Flament accused Hamilton told Le Nouvel Observateur that he would send his girls off to find a new “mouse” on the beaches in the south of France. “Mouse”, she revealed, was the word he used for the girls’ genitals.

“I would approach the parents first, to reassure them. I would say, ‘David Hamilton would like to take a trial photograph of your daughter’. Then he would approach them,” the unnamed woman told the magazine.

Hamilton declared he was inspired by Vladimir Nabokov’s novel Lolita, saying he shared the writers’s “obsession with purity” and that his work looked for “the candour of a lost paradise”. In the 1970s, his “erotic-romantic” images published in books and kitschy calendars raised few eyebrows, and his 1977 soft-focus erotic film Bilitis became an aesthetic manifesto for a generation of artists. Like other well known and famous men of his generation, however, by the start of the 21st century, his pictures had begun to divide option: what he claimed was innocence and candour appeared not just passé but perverse and pornographic.

Chris Warmoli wrote in the Guardian in 2005: “Hamilton’s photographs have long been at the forefront of the ‘is it art or pornography?’ debate.”

Hamilton responded to the resurfacing of the rape claims by threatening to sue for defamation. “I have done nothing improper. Clearly the instigator of this media lynching is looking for her 15 minutes of fame, by defaming me in her novel,” he said last week.

Hamilton pointed out he had never been found guilty of any charge, and that the time had passed in which any could be brought. Under France’s statute of limitations, charges must be brought within 20 years for rape and 10 years for sexual abuse.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Oh, yay.

Any conddolences from Justin, yet?