Rove-gate???

[Ocean Breeze]

The Corporate Media Begins to Connect the Dots
Anthony Wade, www.opednews.com



July 12, 2005

Congratulations to David Gregory and his White House press room cohorts on finally putting some of the plot together. Yesterday, White House Press Whore Scott McClellan was caught between a rock and the lies he has been telling for years now and had no choice but to say things so ridiculous, it is surprising he said any of it with a straight face.

I use the word ridiculous, because McClellan seems to like the word as evidenced by his statements about the possibility of Karl Rove being the leaker in the Valerie Plame case. Yesterday, Gregory and others simply tried to get Rove to stand by his previous comments on the situation. Every time they tried, McClellan bobbed and wove to the point that he said 23 times that the investigation was ongoing and thus he could not comment. Finally frustrated, Gregory ripped into McClellan saying that his evasiveness and excuses were ridiculous. Putting one and one together, Gregory correctly pointed out that McClellan apparently had no issue with denying Rove’s involvement when there was no proof out there to the contrary and that this obviously smelled a lot like selective CYA.

The big questions however, remain unasked, let alone unanswered. The dots are not entirely connected yet. Joseph Wilson represented the first real voice to be critical of the Bush machine in their run-up to war. He represented the truth, as his assertions have turned out to be accurate, that Iraq did not reconstitute their nuclear weapons program. More importantly, in light of the Downing Street Memos, it highlights that Bush did indeed know that the intelligence he was peddling was false, and that war was not the last resort but rather the plan all along.

No, the question to be asked here is how exactly did Karl Rove come into the information that he leaked to Cooper? Why did he have such information if it was not within the purview of his job? Who in the administration decided that he needed to know the secret identity of Valerie Plame? Therein lays the seed of treason. The other dot that remains unconnected is that the role of Valerie Plame was to uncover WMD! Connecting these dots mean that one of the closest men to our President leaked information of a covert operative whose job it was to protect us from the very threats that Bush knew were not even in Iraq!

Instead now of protecting the American people and upholding the ethics he promised to us, Bush and the White House is in its usual disinformation mode. The words that are barely coming out are so parsed, it is obvious that their intent is to cover up, not truly represent the people. Karl Rove can say through his lawyer that he did not mention Plame’s name, but that is irrelevant. He mentioned that Wilson’s wife worked for the agency on WMD issues. That is it. Game over, you lose. There is a word for that in our law and it is called treason. Do not minimize it. Whomever Ms. Plame worked with while undercover immediately became exposed and was either tortured or killed as a direct result of the traitor Rove. Do not parse words with me. The fact that Valerie Plame is alive today is by the grace of God alone.

It was a poignant moment yesterday when David Gregory and the White House Press Pool finally stumbled onto the facts we have put together all along. It was a significant moment when he finally confronted this lying machine and called evil what it is. It was however only the first step. It cannot end there just because Scott McClellan thinks he can cover up crimes committed against this country at the behest of his boss. The other dots are out there and the corporate media needs to finally connect them, or face a further disintegration of their credibility.

George Bush sold us on the Iraq War based on WMD in Iraq that he knew were not there. He lied to Congress to go to war and that is an impeachable offense. At the time he was trying to scare up support for his war, he made the claim that Saddam Hussein had tried to purchase uranium from the Niger NINE times during a one week stretch, including in his State of the Union address. Joseph Wilson knew these claims were false and eventually wrote an honest op-ed piece in the New York Times. Not eight days later, Robert Novak outed his wife as an undercover CIA agent, ruining her career and probably costing the lives of her contacts. Further compounding the obscenity of this act was that her job at the time was to protect us from the very WMD George Bush still cannot find, but loves to scare us with. Novak reported the information was leaked by top administration sources. No kidding. Immediately, the Bush spin machine went into overdrive and Scott McClellan, who repeatedly stated the investigation was ongoing, kept saying that it was ridiculous to link Rove with this story. Two years later, and who looks ridiculous now?

Scott McClellan is a liar but he at least is paid to lie. George Bush is a liar, but he is paid to represent the American people, not cause the deaths of 1,700-7,000 American soldiers and over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians. He is further paid to not then cover up the lies he has already perpetrated upon us, with even more lies. Bill Clinton lied about a personal affair, and we were told how important the rule of law is and how he had to be impeached. Where are those cries today? Where is the consistency? Where is the outrage?

Karl Rove is paid to be an advisor. In that capacity he should not have had the access to the identity of Valerie Plame; dot number one. Judith Miller never wrote an article about this, yet was willing to go to jail instead of reveal her source; dot number two. Valerie Plame was working on the very issue, WMD, which Bush was pretending at the time he wanted to protect us from; dot number three. All of these things point back to the Downing Street Memos which prove impeachable offenses; dot number four.

Connect the dots. Call a liar a liar. Call a traitor a traitor. It is time for the house of cards to fall. The American people can handle the truth. We will recover as long as the truth still stands for something. As long as honor still drives our purpose and feeds our soul. As long as we can have our faith in government restored. Connect the dots.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0714-03.htm

bush and his "brain" beseiged....

(they are two separate items.....for those that are unenlighted to date...;-)

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: RE: Rove-gate???

The Liberal Party isn't publicly calling for people that oppose them to be shot. It's the lying rightwing media in the US that is doing that.

That's the same group of freaks that cheered the London bombings too.

You got a sick bunch down there, NascarJames. If you were really interested in justice and fairness, you'd go after them. You don't though. Speaks volumes about the mindset of the radical right.

Radical right? Are you kidding? I consider myself a middle-of-the-road moderate. Folks on the radical right are far and few. What we really need to worry about are the ultra left wing communist socialist pinkos up in Ottawa.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Rove-gate???

Radical right? Are you kidding? I consider myself a middle-of-the-road moderate.

Seems all those on the radical right do... :lol: :lol:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

What we really need to worry about are the ultra left wing communist socialist pinkos up in Ottawa.

and what in F*** does Ottawa have to do with this con man Rove character. Cheap shot. nothing more. Seems you (in Oklahoma??---US in general ) have a lot more to worry about right in your own front yard. (and in the mirror)

I consider myself a middle-of-the-road moderate.

:roll:.........hear that line often. What you might "consider yourself" and what you really are ......suggests a great divide.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Consider yourself whatever whatever you, Nascar James...your patter is no different than the crap spewed by Fox every night.

 

[mrmom2]

Why is Bush protecting Rove

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Why is Bush protecting Rove

I think that's pretty self-evident mom...Rove has information that would have the whole lot of them in jail...

I think the best that we can hope for here is that Rove will eventually crack under pressure...

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Bush Pledged to Restore "Honor And Integrity" to the Presidency

:lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:

 

[mrmom2]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

sure would be nice if those that voted for the bush regime could be held accountable too........

oh well, that's asking for too much. They have tainted themselves anyhow. --and will have to live with themselves. Rove isn't going to save their butts with Roverian Spin.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

think the best that we can hope for here is that Rove will eventually crack under pressure

:idea: maybe "they" should use their own "interrogation" techniques on him.......to "break" him. Might serve as a test to validate how effective they are... :wink:

 

[Reverend Blair]

I'll offer up my back shed for that. It's like a furnace in there and there are lots of place we can ropes to keep him in "stress postions."

 

[mrmom2]

You could let the mosquito's have there way with to Rev I hear that would break him for sure this year :wink:

 

[Reverend Blair]

I wouldn't want to be out there with no DEET, that's for sure.

The mosquito thing here is funny...out in Bird's Hill last weekend the mosquitoes were quite tolerable. They don't spray there and the air was full of dragon flies. I think we should just quit spraying here for a few years and start a breeding program for dragon flies, frogs and bats.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

You could let the mosquito's have there way with to Rev I hear that would break him for sure this year :wink:

now, there is an idea . no way can anyone blame 'humans" for "torture". add a few bees into the mix. ....and set up a recorder with a megaphone to transmit everything Rove(r) has to say. the general population might as well hear all this first hand.. :wink:

(this could put the "editorial" writers out of business ;-)

 

[Reverend Blair]

He'd likely pass out from loss of blood before he said anything significant.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Hello, this is the President of the United States. Yeah, I find it hard to believe too, but go ahead and leave a message and either Dick or Karl or my Dad or Laura will get back to you. BEEEEEEP!"

"Yeah, boss? This is me, Scott. McClellan. You know, your press secretary? You remember. Kind of balding? The one who always falls for your finger on my chest, then I look down and you hit me on the nose trick? Listen, I got a problem here. Um, this thing is getting weird. I mean, the reporters won't get off the Karl Rove-Valerie Plame story. They're like rabid wolverines and I'm the wounded bunny.

"I did the whole ‘can't comment on an ongoing criminal investigation’ deal like we agreed. And kept doing it. Christ, I must have said it maybe 80 times and they wouldn't stop. The hell is that? I thought we had a deal with these guys. Even Carl Cameron from Fox News! You should have seen him: ‘Does the President still have confidence in Rove?’ I wanted to slap that weasel smile right off his smug mug.

"Some dame even asked ‘who is Karl Rove’ and I totally blanked and launched back into "ongoing criminal investigation" looking like a complete idiot, which I know is what you pay me to do, but holy crap, they just wouldn't lay off. Where's Jeff Gannon when we need him?

“Anyhow, boss, please please please tell me we're not going to run that stupid ‘he never mentioned her name’ defense. I mean, c'mon. He did say Joe Wilson's WIFE worked for the CIA. Which unless the guy is the King of Bahrain or an Elder in the Mormon Church or an Eskimo or something sounds pretty definitive even to me.

"And unh, if you do talk to Mr Rove about this could you leave my name out of it? To be honest, the guy kind of gives me the heebie jeebies. Remember that time I spilled coffee on his lap, and everyone laughed? Later on he pushed me into my office and started screaming and all the doors and windows shut on their own and the air got dense and I swear his eyes turned all red and stuff and a bunch of papers on a chair burst into flames. They were just a pile of old Posts so it was no big deal, but still....

"And I've been asking around and I'm not the only one he creeps out. Cheney's chief of staff's head intern told my intern that she walked in on the Vice President and Mr Rove in that big marble bathroom upstairs dancing around waving dead chicken carcasses and using the decapitated heads as finger puppets. And now she's got warts on her eyes, and I know you don't want to know anything unless you need to know, but this is stuff I think you need to know.

“If you ask me, I think we ought to go right back to good old Plan A where we criticize the criticizers. Get McConnell or one of the boys to express their patriotic outrage and say how picking on Karl Rove is endangering our troops and well, you know the routine. That's it, I guess. You know me, I'll do whatever's good for the team. Except for that hot tub thing with Robert Novack. But you were just kidding around, right? Ulp, here comes Matt Cooper. Got to run."

(just got this in an email from a friend in NY. :wink:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Advice for the Architect
The Architect is sure not doing a good job on behalf of himself (but to be fair, it's really hard to operate on yourself, just ask Dr. Frist). So here are some ideas for Karl Rove to consider. I am not trying to be presumptuous but it seems with Rove out of commission, there isn't a lot of talent left in the White House or the smart ones are running for the hills. Whatever.

1. SPEAK. It's a drag when the lawyers are in charge and because of a criminal investigation they tell you that you can't talk. But your silence is screaming you are guilty. That's all there is to it. If you didn't do anything wrong, tell your lawyers you are going to say that. If it's true it won't hurt you. Your lawyers are killing you ever so slowly right now. It's your reputation, not theirs. It’s your life.

2. APOLOGIZE, SORT OF. Don't stand on legal technicalities. Your future books, your future clients, your legacy is slipping away. Say I didn't break the law. Here is why. But I did show a lack of judgment. It was a mistake. But I didn't break any laws and I'm sure the Special Prosecutor will conclude that.

3. OFFER TO STEP ASIDE, BUT DON'T. You are becoming a drag on the White House and a problem for Bush. Sure he can tough it out -- he's the President and he loves standing by his friends. But you should be a good soldier and at least offer to step aside. Let the President say no publicly. If this happened to, say, Dan Bartlett, you'd have him step aside so fast he wouldn't know what happened. Don't use a double standard because this is happening to you.

4. FINALLY, BE A MAN, LET SCOTT McCLELLAN OFF THE HOOK. You misled him. You have already contributed to wrecking Valerie Plame's life, don't do the same to McClellan. Let him say he wasn't told all the facts because your lawyers wouldn't let you tell him. Or something like that. You can figure that out.

5. REPEAT AFTER ME. Every night before you go to sleep. "Hubris will get you every time."

6. GOOD LUCK.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Karl Rove's America



By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: July 15, 2005
John Gibson of Fox News says that Karl Rove should be given a medal. I agree: Mr. Rove should receive a medal from the American Political Science Association for his pioneering discoveries about modern American politics. The medal can, if necessary, be delivered to his prison cell.


What Mr. Rove understood, long before the rest of us, is that we're not living in the America of the past, where even partisans sometimes changed their views when faced with the facts. Instead, we're living in a country in which there is no longer such a thing as nonpolitical truth. In particular, there are now few, if any, limits to what conservative politicians can get away with: the faithful will follow the twists and turns of the party line with a loyalty that would have pleased the Comintern.

I first realized that we were living in Karl Rove's America during the 2000 presidential campaign, when George W. Bush began saying things about Social Security privatization and tax cuts that were simply false. At first, I thought the Bush campaign was making a big mistake - that these blatant falsehoods would be condemned by prominent Republican politicians and Republican economists, especially those who had spent years building reputations as advocates of fiscal responsibility. In fact, with hardly any exceptions they lined up to praise Mr. Bush's proposals.

But the real demonstration that Mr. Rove understands American politics better than any pundit came after 9/11.

Every time I read a lament for the post-9/11 era of national unity, I wonder what people are talking about. On the issues I was watching, the Republicans' exploitation of the atrocity began while ground zero was still smoldering.

Mr. Rove has been much criticized for saying that liberals responded to the attack by wanting to offer the terrorists therapy - but what he said about conservatives, that they "saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war," is equally false. What many of them actually saw was a domestic political opportunity - and none more so than Mr. Rove.

A less insightful political strategist might have hesitated right after 9/11 before using it to cast the Democrats as weak on national security. After all, there were no facts to support that accusation.

But Mr. Rove understood that the facts were irrelevant. For one thing, he knew he could count on the administration's supporters to obediently accept a changing story line. Read the before-and-after columns by pro-administration pundits about Iraq: before the war they castigated the C.I.A. for understating the threat posed by Saddam's W.M.D.; after the war they castigated the C.I.A. for exaggerating the very same threat.

Mr. Rove also understands, better than anyone else in American politics, the power of smear tactics. Attacks on someone who contradicts the official line don't have to be true, or even plausible, to undermine that person's effectiveness. All they have to do is get a lot of media play, and they'll create the sense that there must be something wrong with the guy.

And now we know just how far he was willing to go with these smear tactics: as part of the effort to discredit Joseph Wilson IV, Mr. Rove leaked the fact that Mr. Wilson's wife worked for the C.I.A. I don't know whether Mr. Rove can be convicted of a crime, but there's no question that he damaged national security for partisan advantage. If a Democrat had done that, Republicans would call it treason.

But what we're getting, instead, is yet another impressive demonstration that these days, truth is political. One after another, prominent Republicans and conservative pundits have declared their allegiance to the party line. They haven't just gone along with the diversionary tactics, like the irrelevant questions about whether Mr. Rove used Valerie Wilson's name in identifying her (Robert Novak later identified her by her maiden name, Valerie Plame), or the false, easily refuted claim that Mr. Wilson lied about who sent him to Niger. They're now a chorus, praising Mr. Rove as a patriotic whistle-blower.

Ultimately, this isn't just about Mr. Rove. It's also about Mr. Bush, who has always known that his trusted political adviser - a disciple of the late Lee Atwater, whose smear tactics helped President Bush's father win the 1988 election - is a thug, and obviously made no attempt to find out if he was the leaker.

Most of all, it's about what has happened to America. How did our political system get to this point?