Rove-gate???

Ocean Breeze

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I would say They brought out the big guns to defend him tonight on Larry King .Micheal Medved :p :p 8O

interesting how "they" continue to defend the indefensible. :roll:

with all that spin coming out of their gov't , it is no wonder most USers don't know which end is up anymore.
 

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Knowing the Bush regime as it always is, you can bet that all blame and accountability will be deflected from themselves. Soon enough they will blame the so-called "liberal media" for this and nothing will happen to the Bushies.
 

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I think they are keeping her until things get really bad. Officially they have no say because the courts are separate from the administration, but they don't pay a lot of attention to that in Bushland.
 

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The press (at least in these parts) has not been giving much attention to the story. If folks do hear of it, it's an "at least it's better than the clinton admin" attitude. The media has pretty much protected the current regime; if it reports something, it doesn't follow it, if it is forced to follow it, it chooses how to follow it (i.e. minimal exposure).
 

Ocean Breeze

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Root of the Rove controversy is the war in Iraq
U.S. justification for waging war on Saddam still haunts White House

Larry Downing / Reuters
President Bush speaks to the press following a Cabinet meeting on Wednesday with White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove in the background.



• Bush: CIA leak investigation ‘serious’
July 13: President Bush says that he will withhold judgment about top aide Karl Rove’s involvement in leaking the identity of a CIA agent.
MSNBC


David Gregory
Chief White House correspondent


WASHINGTON, DC - President Bush said on Wednesday that he will reserve judgement on Karl Rove’s possible involvement in the leaking of a CIA agent's identity until the special prosecutor’s criminal investigation into the matter is complete.

"This is a serious investigation," Bush said at the end of a meeting with his Cabinet, with Rove, his Deputy Chief of Staff, sitting just behind him. "I will be more than happy to comment on this matter once this investigation is complete,” Bush said.

While the White House seemingly stands by its man, NBC News Chief White House correspondent David Gregory discusses the investigation, how the administration is expected to proceed, and how the root of the scandal is once again the controversial justifications for the war in Iraq.



Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, came to Rove’s defense during a press briefing on Tuesday by saying, “Any individual who works here at the White House has the confidence of the president. They wouldn’t be working here at the White House if they didn’t.” What is the likelihood that Bush would ever actually fire Rove, a close confident and the architect of his re-election campaign?
I think, were Karl Rove to be indicted for any crime, it would be impossible for the president to keep him on. Short of that, I don’t think that he will go anywhere. I think the president will stand behind him.

If you look, the president’s past comments were pretty clear: that anyone who is responsible for leaking classified information, which is a crime, would be fired. Until and unless that’s proven in this case, I don’t think that Karl Rove will go anywhere.

As to the question of whether what Karl Rove did was a smear campaign, or politically sleazy, it’s pretty clear to me that everyone in White House — from the president, to the vice-president, to other officials — shared Rove’s interest in discrediting former ambassador Joseph Wilson who was critical of the administration’s case for going to war in Iraq.

Other than standing by Rove, how much longer can the White House remain silent and dodge this issue?
The president spoke out this morning to say it’s an ongoing investigation and that they should get to the bottom of it. But, beyond that, he’ll try to make it clear that Karl Rove continues to do his job as normal, that it’s business as usual, and that he retains the president’s confidence. It’s pretty clear that’s the case.

The White House has a political problem because they have made statements that are wrong and that are no longer accurate. That’s brought the heat on them.

The president just said today that he “will not prejudge the investigation based on media reports.” So, it doesn’t appear that he is going to comment beyond that.
 

Reverend Blair

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That's the Republican line, Ocean. They demonized Clinton for eight years and launched investigation after investigation. In the end, all that really stuck was a blow job, but that's enough for them. It also works...listen to the rhetoric spewed by the rightwing media.

Now people like el Polaco are stuck with the Bush administration for two terms.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: Rove-gate???

Reverend Blair said:
That's the Republican line, Ocean. They demonized Clinton for eight years and launched investigation after investigation. In the end, all that really stuck was a blow job, but that's enough for them. It also works...listen to the rhetoric spewed by the rightwing media.

Now people like el Polaco are stuck with the Bush administration for two terms.

hi rev: :) indeed. It wouldn't be so bad ,if it affected ONLY the US.......but sadly this administration is leaving bloody, nasty footprints on the world at large. On a personal level , I don't much care who they have and what happens IN the US ....as that is their business........but I DO CARE as to how it all affects the rest of the world.

(there is no accounting for bad taste :wink:
 

Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: Rove-gate???

ElPolaco said:
Reverend Blair said:
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Now people like el Polaco are stuck with the Bush administration for two terms.

That's eight terms; 2for W, then 2 for Jeb and then 2 each for the twins.

well, if this is what the USers want....... :roll:

So when will the US be renaimed Bush Country??? US of Bush??? -perhaps??
 

Reverend Blair

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The rest of the world has no say in US elections though, Ocean. It's also important to remember that most Americans did not vote for Bush. He got about half of the vote and there are a lot of people so disgusted with both parties that they don't show up at the polls.

All we can do is critcise US policy and hope that some Americans listen.
 

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Ocean Breeze

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The rest of the world has no say in US elections though, Ocean. It's also important to remember that most Americans did not vote for Bush.

the rest of the world has no right to have any say in US elections......anymore than the US has in any other nation. Even though , many USers did not vote for bush.....he is in. And that is the bottom line. It is still reflective of the US population.

Hopefully, they , themselves will become more aware of the dysfunctionality in their current system........but that sure don't prevent us from "discussing" how it treats the rest of the world. :wink: This is the part that concerns me the most.