Robocalls?? Tempest in a Teapot. BIG surprise.

[BornRuff]

Even if it was the intended to misdirect. There is nothing to link this to the Conservative Party and the assertions (by idiots like CK) that the Harper Government cheated to get elected is ridiculous.

Another scandal goes by the wayside for opposition parties lacking the ability to generate enough votes to form a government.

"Nothing" to link them? The report clearly shows that the source of some of these calls were companies hired by the Conservative party.

 

[Count_Lothian]

I LOVE you guys!!!

The Conservative Party was EXONERATED. There was NO EVIDENCE of any wrong-doing, outside of that allegedly committed by a loose cannon in Guelph.

This is exactly what I have been saying since day 1......The Conservative Party strategists are not stupid enough to do something like this, even if they were crooked enough, which they are not.

And the fact that a man that is no friend of the Conservative Party exonerated them, while he had a Supreme Court justice looking over his shoulder to ensure everything was kosher, has made exactly NO impression on the Harper haters, as they are NOT interested in justice nor are they interested in the truth........all they want is a gallows on which to hang Harper, and they are psychologically incapable of accepting that the gallows is NOT deserved.

Crooks get exonerated every day.
If you want to think this ;
Conservative Logo is lily white and all the people that were involved in receiving the calls were told to do so by a loose cannon.

Fine for you.....lol...

What about , the lies of the cost of planes, the false budget claims, the screwing over of veterans retirements, the lack of medical help for veterans, the list is endless.

but hey enjoy your exoneration!!!
hahahahahaha...

i'll even give you one of these, a pseudo beer, :cheers:

 

[Colpy]

Crooks get exonerated every day.
If you want to think this ;
Conservative Logo is lily white and all the people that were involved in receiving the calls were told to do so by a loose cannon.

Fine for you.....lol...

What about , the lies of the cost of planes, the false budget claims, the screwing over of veterans retirements, the lack of medical help for veterans, the list is endless.

but hey enjoy your exoneration!!!
hahahahahaha...

i'll even give you one of these, a pseudo beer, :cheers:

Ahhhhh........the list is irrelevant, as we are discussing electoral fraud, which was NOT a problem in the 2011 election.

There are lots of things that I do not like about the Conservatives.

There are a lot MORE things I don't like about the Libs and NDP.

It is always a choice between imperfect candidates.

 

[Count_Lothian]

"Nothing" to link them? The report clearly shows that the source of some of these calls were companies hired by the Conservative party.

Even if it was the intended to misdirect. There is nothing to link this to the Conservative Party and the assertions (by idiots like CK) that the Harper Government cheated to get elected is ridiculous.

Another scandal goes by the wayside for opposition parties lacking the ability to generate enough votes to form a government.

Psssst let him enjoy the exoneration.
There is nothing one is going to be able to show these people that their Logo was won with a scam within a scam.

 

[BornRuff]

I LOVE you guys!!!

The Conservative Party was EXONERATED. There was NO EVIDENCE of any wrong-doing, outside of that allegedly committed by a loose cannon in Guelph.

This is exactly what I have been saying since day 1......The Conservative Party strategists are not stupid enough to do something like this, even if they were crooked enough, which they are not.

And the fact that a man that is no friend of the Conservative Party exonerated them, while he had a Supreme Court justice looking over his shoulder to ensure everything was kosher, has made exactly NO impression on the Harper haters, as they are NOT interested in justice nor are they interested in the truth........all they want is a gallows on which to hang Harper, and they are psychologically incapable of accepting that the gallows is NOT deserved.

Lol, Elections Canada isn't political. The Conservatives just like to play it up that way for their own political benefit. It obviously works on people like you, since when they get in trouble, they can just cry that they are biased against them, and when they don't get in trouble, they can say "see, even though they are biased against us they still didn't find anything, so we must be SUPER innocent".

In reality, elections Canada is just doing its job, and the Conservatives keep toeing the line between legal and illegal practices, so they will get a lot of attention.

On your other point, you could claim that they are too smart to do this, or you could claim that they are smart enough to know that as long as they use call centers that don't record their calls, it will be almost impossible to prove that they did this.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

you are kidding yourself.

The first line of your post, read it.

Just because this does not make it to conviction does not mean there was no smoke.

The fact is people were misdirected. That in and of itself screams scam.

Mr.Poutine worked for the conservative logo.

Over and over again this conservative logo operates in gray areas to say the least.

I do not approve.

People seem to want a pure government with a Conservative logo.
Dat ain't happenin cappin!


Now I agree that they did not get elected entirely on cheating, but cheating did go on.

One individuals actions does not make the Conservative Party a bunch of cheaters. There are plenty of zealots out there supporting every kind of party, but it is ridiculous to accuse that party of wrong doing based on individual action.

Show me some evidence that Mr. Poutine was taking orders from the PMO or even the Conservative MP he was representing in that riding. If you can prove that you have a scandal.

Unsubstantiated claims breed shrill acccusations by the member I was referring to resulting in crap like this:

Mike Duffy and the conservative way or Harper guts Elections Canada to keep cheating or Conservative Culture of Contempt or Conservative government abuses power to stifle opinion. or Conservative government supports torture. or Flanagan thinks Harper is a predator.

This so-called scandal was born out of half-truths and unconfirmed allegations.

Well guess what. The investigation turned up nothing, but the accusation fueled a lot of nonsense.

 

[Count_Lothian]

Ahhhhh........the list is irrelevant, as we are discussing electoral fraud, which was NOT a problem in the 2011 election.

There are lots of things that I do not like about the Conservatives.

There are a lot MORE things I don't like about the Libs and NDP.

It is always a choice between imperfect candidates.

Fine , oki dokie.
Like i said enjoy your exoneration to the fullest.
I'm sure you feel that it is a complete and honest take on the reality of what took place .
there is nothing nagging or niggling at your being.

all is tickety boo in Conservative Logo Land.

Enjoy.

 

[Colpy]

Lol, Elections Canada isn't political. The Conservatives just like to play it up that way for their own political benefit. It obviously works on people like you, since when they get in trouble, they can just cry that they are biased against them, and when they don't get in trouble, they can say "see, even though they are biased against us they still didn't find anything, so we must be SUPER innocent".

In reality, elections Canada is just doing its job, and the Conservatives keep toeing the line between legal and illegal practices, so they will get a lot of attention.

On your other point, you could claim that they are too smart to do this, or you could claim that they are smart enough to know that as long as they use call centers that don't record their calls, it will be almost impossible to prove that they did this.

HELLO!!

Where did you see me accuse Elections Canada of bias in either direction??

I said the gentleman that exonerated the CPC was NOT a friend of the Party....had you been paying attention to current events, that would be blatantly obvious. He was not political, and reached the correct conclusion....it is you that can not accept that.....not I.

They didn't do it.

Ever hear of the concept of Innocent until proven Guilty??

Or even the concept of requiring some EVIDENCE of wrong-doing??

No, of course not....you're a "progressive".

lol

You guys just keep proving my point every time you post.

Oh, BTW, this idiotic promotion of wild conspiracy theories without the slightest shred of evidence is damaging the political culture of our country, and thus our democracy.

Smarten the **** up.

 

[Count_Lothian]

Try the wine!

Try the Wine - YouTube

One individuals actions does not make the Conservative Party a bunch of cheaters. There are plenty of zealots out there supporting every kind of party, but it is ridiculous to accuse that party of wrong doing based on individual action.

Show me some evidence that Mr. Poutine was taking orders from the PMO or even the Conservative MP he was representing in that riding. If you can prove that you have a scandal.

Unsubstantiated claims breed shrill acccusations by the member I was referring to resulting in crap like this:

Mike Duffy and the conservative way or Harper guts Elections Canada to keep cheating or Conservative Culture of Contempt or Conservative government abuses power to stifle opinion. or Conservative government supports torture. or Flanagan thinks Harper is a predator.

This so-called scandal was born out of half-truths and unconfirmed allegations.

Well guess what. The investigation turned up nothing, but the accusation fueled a lot of nonsense.

I realize that all parties wish to spin dirt from other parties.
I also realize like you say one man does not make a party rotten to the core.

We are talking about people that were misdirected during election day.

It aided the Conservative Party Logo you defend.



If you feel mr Poutine took it all on his own , like the Michael Wright guy just decided to do what he did on his own.

fine ! enjoy your "C" logo and sleep the deep sleep of opium .

these people have no buffers these people are loose cannons.

hahahahahahahaha...

Don't feel let down by your Big "C" Logo.
They are crusaders for Canada, lily white to the core.
Never use spin doctors in order to mask their intent.
Never use spin doctors during elections to lie.

never happens. all lily white..

please just skip to timestamp 3.03
Mr. Deltoid - YouTube

 

[BornRuff]

HELLO!!

Where did you see me accuse Elections Canada of bias in either direction??

I said the gentleman that exonerated the CPC was NOT a friend of the Party....had you been paying attention to current events, that would be blatantly obvious. He was not political, and reached the correct conclusion....it is you that can not accept that.....not I.

If you say someone is "no friend of X", it does sound a lot like you are saying that they are against them, not neutral.

They didn't do it.

No, they clearly did do it. They just can't prove intent behind the actions.

Ever hear of the concept of Innocent until proven Guilty??

Or even the concept of requiring some EVIDENCE of wrong-doing??

No, of course not....you're a "progressive".

lol

You guys just keep proving my point every time you post.

Oh, BTW, this idiotic promotion of wild conspiracy theories without the slightest shred of evidence is damaging the political culture of our country, and thus our democracy.

Smarten the **** up.

You are the one who concluded that they would never do something like this based on nothing. I simply provided an alternative conclusion. You claim they are too smart to do this, well it is also very plausible that they are smart enough to know that they can do this without getting caught.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

It aided the Conservative Party Logo you defend.

You really should research the things I post before drawing this conclusion.

 

[BornRuff]

You really should research the things I post before drawing this conclusion.

Yeah, it would be a shame if you drew some silly conclusion such as saying that there is nothing to link the Conservatives to these calls.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Yeah, it would be a shame if you drew some silly conclusion such as saying that there is nothing to link the Conservatives to these calls.

Nothing that warrants conspiracy, as many have claimed.

 

[Locutus]

rufftrade is mad.

 

[Colpy]

rufftrade is mad.

...as opposed to angry??

 

[BornRuff]

Nothing that warrants conspiracy, as many have claimed.

That is a bit more reserved than your initial claim that there was "nothing to link this"(emphasis added by you) to the Conservatives.

Clearly the links are there. The actions are documented. But since most of the people who got the calls don't record their calls, and the people making the call chose not to do so either, we are left without enough evidence to prove any sort of malicious intent.

 

[petros]

Too bad voting isn't done from home. More people would do it. I can do and pay my taxes and sign up for elections Canada from home so why not vote?

 

[BornRuff]

Too bad voting isn't done from home. More people would do it. I can do and pay my taxes and sign up for elections Canada from home so why not vote?

I think the main argument against internet voting is that not everyone wants to end up with Prime Minister "LOL Cat McAssporn"

 

[Colpy]

Ezra gets it exactly right.

Robocalls investigation dropped | Ezra Levant

Yeah, it would be a shame if you drew some silly conclusion such as saying that there is nothing to link the Conservatives to these calls.

WHAT calls????

The point of the Elections Canada release is that (outside of Guelph) there WAS NO OFFENSE COMMITTED!!!!!

None.

Not that they couldn't prove the CPC committed a crime.....but THERE WAS NO CRIME.

 

[Locutus]

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