Rob Ford Doesn't Care About Toronto People
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The problem isn't so much whether he declared an emergency or not the whole
problem revolves around the behaviour of the Mayor and his drug use and his
drunken stupors and idiotic actions. To be more blunt its about the perception
he has created and the negative view he has developed and fostered.
Did they need the assistance? If so why was the city not prepared? If they didn't
need the help why were so many calling for the help? Seems to me we have a
continuous supply of questions and not much in the way of answers.
Toronto is dysfunctional and that is the basis on which the city revolves.
Ford should do the right thing and step aside and he won't because he is in a
position where he has to defend his bad behaviour and so it goes round and round.
problem revolves around the behaviour of the Mayor and his drug use and his
drunken stupors and idiotic actions. To be more blunt its about the perception
he has created and the negative view he has developed and fostered.
Did they need the assistance? If so why was the city not prepared? If they didn't
need the help why were so many calling for the help? Seems to me we have a
continuous supply of questions and not much in the way of answers.
Toronto is dysfunctional and that is the basis on which the city revolves.
Ford should do the right thing and step aside and he won't because he is in a
position where he has to defend his bad behaviour and so it goes round and round.
You lose me completely when saying let's concentrate on his good qualities... he is not your kid in school he's the mayor... if he was your relative you might know of some good qualities, we are speaking here of a public figure.
I don't get the kumbaya stuff that you want to focus on but okay.
I do not consider myself as too far left...most on here are to my right by a long way. I would place myself as a hard right liberal or a hard left conservative since I have voted for all parties. I would bet most in here are conservative voters regardless of the issues.
agreed and in many ways Ford is far better than his predecessors
Well I have to say if you are sick of those 2 you must have done as I have and stopped listening to Toronto's 2 talk radio am stations.
Non stop Ford.
One even had the Fords own show but since they ditched him they are making the Star look like amateurs. in their dissing of him.
Of course I suppose having one of their Talk show hosts potentially running for Mayor has a lot to do with it.
As for the other station I'm not sure why they are non stop Ford bashing but maybe the both of them are embarrassed by their right wing hero making CONServatives look like the doinks they are..........
PS: I think Ford should be gone but even I got bored of only hearing about him
I suggest you are full of SH*T! Crack was alluded to in Posts #8, 16, 19 and mentioned specifically by yourself in post # 26, so that debunks that myth, since I entered the discussed AFTER post 26. So Cut the Bullsh*t.
You're 100% right on the money here, Sal and there's a venue to deal with that, it's called "election day". You don't go watering down the guy's position of authority by "back door" means like positioning someone else over him. As long as he's the mayor he should be the mayor, unless of course HE decides to delegate some of him responsibilities OR he is convicted of a felony in court.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the issue of if he has smoked crack or not. You seem to be the only one arguing that there is any doubt that he smoked crack, and that back and forth has obviously made crack a much bigger issue in this thread. If you accept it and move on, it wont be as prominent.
Elected officials voting to remove powers that they delegate to a certain person certainly isn't "back door", it is democracy at work. Ford has not lost a single power that the voters gave directly to him.
I do agree with you that the quasi mayor situation isn't great, but IMO the problem is that there is no legal mechanism to go further. I don't think that any public official should have carte blanche do do whatever the hell they want for four years with no accountability. We need a mechanism to step in at any time if things get bad enough, not just if they are sent to jail. It shouldn't be easy, since it should only be possible in the most extreme situations, but the possibility has to be there. We have too much on the line.
There's only two things in this world that are 100% certain, so I'll put this hypothetical question to you. If the sentence for smoking crack was death and he was being charged with the crime and you were on the jury, would you find him guilty or not guilty?
We have mechanism for that too, charge him with a felony, find him guilty and poof he's gone.
That is a pretty ridiculous way to phrase the question, but ya, if I am being told to decide if he smoked crack or not, I wouldn't have any hesitation acknowledging that he did. I mean, he admitted it, and it is on video. What more do you want?
There is no such thing as a felony in Canada, and no, he is not gone if he is convicted of a crime. He is only gone if he is sentenced to time in jail.
Being the mayor of the largest city in Canada is about more than just not going to jail. We need a mechanism actually related to how he is doing his job.
**** sakes man, it's on video. Give it up.
Again, just stop. You are 100% wrong on this one. There is absolutely nothing anywhere that says that the mayor is removed from office if convicted of a felony. Canada doesn't have any class of charges called felonies, and the mayor isn't removed from office simply by being convicted of any type of crime.
This is just getting painful. You know what we are talking about here.
It's very f**king simple, can the substance in the photo be positively identified as crack? It's not rocket science. There is no use "debating" with you if you are deliberately being "thick"! Perhaps you've never heard of trick photography!
On that note I'll take it that I've won this debate!
Toronto ice storm: Ford made 'right decision' on state of emergency - Canada - CBC News
The substance in the photo no longer has to be identified he ended speculation
when he admitted to doing anything. Perception is now all that is required. As
for the city in crisis its time to call the army in and its time to do what is required.
When Ford rightly or wrongly did not go along with calling in outside help he has
diminished himself in a perceptive way Fiddling while Toronto freezes..
All his troubles stem from rebellious behaviour.
when he admitted to doing anything. Perception is now all that is required. As
for the city in crisis its time to call the army in and its time to do what is required.
When Ford rightly or wrongly did not go along with calling in outside help he has
diminished himself in a perceptive way Fiddling while Toronto freezes..
All his troubles stem from rebellious behaviour.