Republicans start swinging

[mt_pockets1000]

Yep, CNN also carried the story about his uncle. Talk about grasping for straws.

 

[talloola]

Yep, CNN also carried the story about his uncle. Talk about grasping for straws.

Sounds more like an elementary school having chat about electing a new president of the
class. They are embarrassanly immature and tacky, find something solid to debate about,
really.

 

[Colpy]

What kind of silly questions are those. I am not against abortions, and
I would ban all hand guns as well, hand guns are for killing people,
what more do you need to know!!!!

I would like to know his story as to why he voted against partial birth abortions,
then I will comment on his vote.

Well, you should probably read the second amendment to the US constitution, you know, the one office holders swear to "uphold and defend".......it would be nice, like I said, for the Americans to have a President that has actually read the document.......

He didn't for against partial birth abortions.....he voted against a bill to ban partial birth abortions.

And, BTW, the "uncle" story is just silly. These guys in the media, and in political back rooms, will jump on anything, no matter how insignificant, and God forbid they spend 10 minutes doing research.........but it doesn't matter which candidate. There are incompetent arseholes in both campaigns and in the media.

 

[I think not]

It doesn't. Except that it reveals something of his mindset. My assumption would be that he voted against the Bill as he saw it as the thin edge of the wedge in a battle against Roe vs Wade...........that is NOT IMHO, a good enough reason.

I personally can't find any good reason why partial birth abortions (other than the mother being at risk, somehow) should even be a consideration that warrants a law against it. It's absolutely disgusting.

His mindset after listening to his side of the issue; the decision should be with the mother. Honestly, that mother should have thought of an abortion little after conception.I'm not buying his logic on this one. But thankfully, it's a done deal, so a non issue in my eyes.

And I really don't have anything against Obama.............it simply worries me to see a people caught in a wave of wh0-knows-what...........reminds me of Trudeaumania...OMG! Run!

I don't think people are necessarily "caught up" as you say it, he is young and has inspired alot of young people to come out and vote. If there is anything "caught up" about him, it is a new face, not necessarily fresh ideas. Clinton is old news in Washington, Obama is a new face that sends out a message of "change".

Really, people need to take a much closer look at the man.

The Republicans are grasping for straws at the moment, they can't find anything substantial, if they had, it would have come out by now. Unfortunately the Clinton camp likes to throw crap around moreso than the McCain camp. Typical Democrats, they have a huge shot at the White House and it seems they just keep digging themselves deeper and deeper. I wouldn't be shocked if they lose, again.

And, admittedly, I like McCain.

I like McCain on a few policies he is recommending, but he turns me off completely with his terrorism rhetoric. Plus he has a very short temper, reminds me of someone already in the White House. That also says much about his mindset.


Talloola,

I have been reading your posts regarding the Presidential elections with great interest. While I do not agree with everything you say, I realize that your concerns lie in the fact that the people of the United States deserve better. For that I thank you. You're a breath of fresh air.

 

[I think not]

Well, you should probably read the second amendment to the US constitution, you know, the one office holders swear to "uphold and defend".......it would be nice, like I said, for the Americans to have a President that has actually read the document.......

Obama was a civil rights lawyer in Illinois, hence his practice was Constitutional law. ;-)

My guess is he has read the document. :smile:

 

[talloola]

He didn't for against partial birth abortions.....he voted against a bill to ban partial birth abortions.
Right, sorry, I worded that incorrectly.

And, BTW, the "uncle" story is just silly. These guys in the media, and in political back rooms, will jump on anything, no matter how insignificant, and God forbid they spend 10 minutes doing research.........but it doesn't matter which candidate. There are incompetent arseholes in both campaigns and in the media.

They are embarrassing to listen to, and it is insulting that they talk to 'us' in that manner.
BUT, I wonder how many actually believe everything they say, 'that' is more scary.

 

[talloola]

I
Talloola,

I have been reading your posts regarding the Presidential elections with great interest. While I do not agree with everything you say, I realize that your concerns lie in the fact that the people of the United States deserve better. For that I thank you. You're a breath of fresh air.

I think about 'all of you' quite often, and see you 'stuck' under the iron fist of that
president, and administration, and while he is there, you are not as 'free' as you should
be. November is nearing, but McCain is lirking and hoping, surely he won't be successful,
as I'm positive you all want to get out from under the present system, and with McCain as
president, it will be same ole, same ole.

 

[I think not]

They are embarrassing to listen to, and it is insulting that they talk to 'us' in that manner.
BUT, I wonder how many actually believe everything they say, 'that' is more scary.

If people can believe holograms smashed into the WTC, they will believe anything.

 

[Colpy]

Obama was a civil rights lawyer in Illinois, hence his practice was Constitutional law. ;-)

My guess is he has read the document. :smile:

Well, he may have read it........but, if he voted for a ban on handguns he certainly doesn't respect it or understand it.

Of course, neither does Bush.

 

[Colpy]

I think about 'all of you' quite often, and see you 'stuck' under the iron fist of that
president, and administration, and while he is there, you are not as 'free' as you should
be. November is nearing, but McCain is lirking and hoping, surely he won't be successful,
as I'm positive you all want to get out from under the present system, and with McCain as
president, it will be same ole, same ole.

A popular misconception.

Obama is the traditionalist, backing what have long been traditional values of the Democrat.....departing from the party line not a whit.....McCain is the maverick, willing to cross party lines and engage in non-partisan solutions to some issues......

Obama is unproven, untested, inexperienced, and I REALLY don't like "cult of personality" popularity surges.

McCain has been tested.........and proven to be an extraordinary man.

 

[Colpy]

So let me see if I have this straight. It's a terrible thing to carry out partial birth abortions but it's ok to drop a cluster bomb on a village in Iraq, killing and maiming indiscriminately. Ok...got it now. It's all in the semantics. Perception is reality.

Personnally, given the choice, I'd rather have an ice pick drove through my skull than die a horrible death bleeding from a lost limb or shrapnel embedded in my gut. Then again, neither the unborn child nor the innocent victim of a bombing are ever given the choice.

Hmmmm

Speaking of Iraq and the Republicans coming out swinging....

http://www.argonunya.com/HypocrisyExposed.html

 

[I think not]

Well, he may have read it........but, if he voted for a ban on handguns he certainly doesn't respect it or understand it.

I dunno about that Colpy, the Second Amendment as you are well aware grants the right to bear arms. Banning weapons would require a Constitutional Amendment. He can still believe in it, all he has to do is amend the U.S. Constitution, which would be a collosal (Sp?) feat.

Of course, neither does Bush.

Bush is an asshole, I expect him to "dissapoint" me, the other morons in Congress just followed suit, they should all be hung by their pubic hairs on public display when Congress is not in session. They're pitiful, I have been saying for a very long time, politicians in this country have lost their way.

 

[mt_pockets1000]

Yeah Colpy, there's not much honor left in the political world anymore.