Remove our Debt based Financial System.

taxslave

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ROFLMFAO. You got a lot to learn sunshine.
The simple solution would be for people to quit demanding free services from the government that we cannot afford.
 

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ROFLMFAO. You got a lot to learn sunshine.
The simple solution would be for people to quit demanding free services from the government that we cannot afford.



And for politicians to stop bribing people with their own money!! Doesn't matter what party - they all make promises and everyone seems to get so excited trying to figure out who's going to offer the most and what's in it for them. What idiots - it's their money to begin with!!


Stats I heard today - NDP wants to offer a National Daycare Program not unlike Quebec. Even the Finance Minister of Quebec states that the cost of Daycare per child in Quebec is $60/day. They charge parents $7.50/day and those with higher incomes $20/day. So the rest of the Quebecers (and Canada) subsidize daycare to the tune of $2 plus billion dollars for 2013-2014. So Mulclair wants to emulate/impose the Quebec experience and ensure the rest of Canada suffers the same fate!! How stupid is that? He states that he will try to get the Provinces on-side - huh! That's going to be interesting. Most provinces are feeling the pinch economically as it is, so I doubt if they're be willing to dig themselves deeper in the hole financially - well, maybe Alberta will be the exception....


Harper has increased the UCCB and CTB; Trudeau wants to out-bid Harper and Mulclair. It's crazy. Why not lower taxes for everyone so they can afford to pay their own daycare if they so choose or have one adult stay at home with the kids if that is an option as well. I'm talking 2 parent families here, to be fair.


Single parent families are another ball of wax and likely require alternatives.


JMHO
 

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Dalton look to Greece .

I have looked at Greece. They are under the same financial system that we are but they're several years ahead of us. Greece needs to take out massive loans in order to pay off old debt which at this point everyone knows they can't repay. So in order to get more paper to pay off there debt black hole they've sold off some of their islands and put heavy austerity measures in place which will cripple what's left of the country. If Greece was smart it would bite the bullet and accept reality, that they need to default on their loans like Iceland did and have a currency made by the government with restrictions based on population size and resources in the country.
 

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I have looked at Greece. They are under the same financial system that we are but they're several years ahead of us. Greece needs to take out massive loans in order to pay off old debt which at this point everyone knows they can't repay. So in order to get more paper to pay off there debt black hole they've sold off some of their islands and put heavy austerity measures in place which will cripple what's left of the country. If Greece was smart it would bite the bullet and accept reality, that they need to default on their loans like Iceland did and have a currency made by the government with restrictions based on population size and resources in the country.

Greece has a culture of entitlement which cost more than they bring in. Leaving no money to run the country. This is what leftys want to do to Canada as well.So far Canada is no where near this position.

Selling empty islands is good business. Crown land produces no tax revenue.
 

coldstream

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There have been attempts to remove debt as the foundation of our financial system. Social Credit was one attempt.

The advantage of debt is it forces discipline of the financial system with respect to currency and maintains some semblance of stored value in the monetary system. The disadvantage is it places an implicit tax on productive enterprise through interest.

Simply printing and distributing money would almost definitely lead to unbridled inflation, and disarm government's ability to limit the amount of money in the system. However the ability to print money under a rigorous system of controlling the money supply with respect to productive output is superior to borrowing.

There is an argument that a nation should Never borrow money from private sources. And should only borrow from other Cental Banks on the basis of facilitating the import of foreign tade for defined periods and payed down through exports, enforcing a strict balance of trade. It is through this that exchange rates should be set and governed.

It is the sovereign national prerogative to inject money into the economy at affordable rates of interest to facilitate industrial and economic production and development. This validates the increase of money with a corresponding increase of physical product. It is further regulated through taxation and government spending.. all aimed at full employment and equitable distribution of wealth.

What has happened in Greece is an example is when borrowing becomes unhinged from the national currency and put in the hands of supranational agencies. This is a disaster and untenable even in the medium term.

The world's financial system has been denationalized, is saturated with debt at the same time the currencies have lost real relationship with physical product. That means debt will start to accumulate on a geometrical scale.

This abstraction of species of exchange means that the global economy will careen from crisis to crisis.. shock to shock.. and will collapse inevitably.. bringing on an Depression of unknown depth and duration. But it will be unlike anything we have seen before.

We now have a system, under global free market capitalism that is run solely for the benefit of banks and markets and have lost all semblance of a relationship to the real economy of industry, manufacturing and agriculture.
 
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taxslave

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I like the equal distribution of wealth in coldstream's C&P. Does this mean that a junkie on welfare should get as much money as the guy that works 14 hours a day?

Kind of looks like it came out of Tyee news. Or maybe huff&puff.