Oh I'm not saying Canada is the only country in the world with anti-American sentiments ... I guess approximately 200-some-what countries have these sentiments :mrgreen: ...
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I didn't have a chance to amend my post, I did want to say that it is more of an anti-America sentiment rather than an anti-American sentiment. Subtle difference, but an important one nevertheless. I think if Americans vote Kerry into office, the perception of the US will change. If they vote Bush back into office, worst fears will be confirmed about the ability of Americans to think clearly.
Rick van Opbergen said:
I didn't have a chance to amend my post, I did want to say that it is more of an anti-America sentiment rather than an anti-American sentiment. Subtle difference, but an important one nevertheless. I think if Americans vote Kerry into office, the perception of the US will change. If they vote Bush back into office, worst fears will be confirmed about the ability of Americans to think clearly.
But it was kinda surprising to hear that 75% of all Americans did not vote Bush into office ... sounds weird ... it does not mean that 75% disagrees with him ... but still ...
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Yes, no question last time he did not win the popular vote, but this time is a different story. 50% of Americans, give or take, support the man. That means half of Americans are not functioning on all cylinders.
Rick van Opbergen said:
Yes, no question last time he did not win the popular vote, but this time is a different story. 50% of Americans, give or take, support the man. That means half of Americans are not functioning on all cylinders.
Haha it's sad ... though I do think a considerable part of Americans supporting Bush have other motivations than for example the Iraq war ... last night I saw a documentary about conservative christian America in what-was-it, Texas I guess ... those people didn't necessarily agreed with the Iraq war, but Republican propaganda has told them with Kerry, their values will surely be destroyed .... "we have no choice but Bush" they say ... sad ...
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Yes, sad that they listen only to what they hear from FoxNews, Bushie's mouthpiece. A shocking number of Americans get their news solely from this source. The Rev had a good idea, to spend a week getting news only from this source to get a feel for what they are being fed. I tried it for one day and thought I'd go mad with it!
Rick van Opbergen said:
Yes, sad that they listen only to what they hear from FoxNews, Bushie's mouthpiece. A shocking number of Americans get their news solely from this source. The Rev had a good idea, to spend a week getting news only from this source to get a feel for what they are being fed. I tried it for one day and thought I'd go mad with it!
We still have our freedon in the U.S and will always have our freedon not withstanding the PC crowd to punish anyone who disagrees with there point of view.Maybe some of you Canadians can tell me if you're goverment plans on introducing Sharia Islamic law in canada?I hope it's not the case but it's been talked about.does anyone know the facts?peapod said:
Bevvy does, she a poster during the day. This is an issue at another forum, so I am sure she will answer your post in the morning as she is up on this issue.
Haggis McBagpipe said:Just the Facts said::roll:
People are really chomping on the bit to bash anything American around here.
Master was shaking his head at Western education, not Canadian.
Are you speaking for Master, then?
Umm, no.... I just read his post, read the responses, and noticed the incongruency between the two. Not really all that challenging. :wink:
Do you? Your government has, against your constitution, given itself the right to keep an eye on what library books you check out. What do you suppose Ben Franklin would have to say about that? He wasn't known for being politically correct.
There is a movement to accept Sharia law in civil cases (i.e. divorce) where both parties agree. Canadian law would take precedence whenever there was a conflict between the two laws or when one party did not agree.
I don't think it's a good idea at all, even with the built in safeguards. Most of Canada has depended on precedents set by British Common Law (Quebec uses the French model) since the British first landed here. To bring in an entirely new set of precedents for a portion of the population is sure to lead to confusion.
I don't think it's a good idea at all, even with the built in safeguards. Most of Canada has depended on precedents set by British Common Law (Quebec uses the French model) since the British first landed here. To bring in an entirely new set of precedents for a portion of the population is sure to lead to confusion.
oh kay...so you have moved from religion to politics..why does that not surprise me.
First, peapd, I don't know if you know but the soviet union does not exist anymore, so I am confused as to why you kept referring to them in your post. I am sickened by the fact that Regan had the balls to say what he did. It really pisses me off when people use another persons faith to gain respect and domination. Religion is actually a great thing. It is a place for people with a same interest to get togther and talk about..kinda like sunday fottball gatherings if you will.
I don't think that many believe that only those who believe in god are good. Because that is very naive and dangerous. I know many people who don't believe in god, and i love them just as much as someone who does. I don't care if you believe in god or not, if you are bad you are bad, case dismissed, there is nothing else to it. I can't stand it that people still use this crap to get what they want.
Wars have been going on for centuries on whose religion is right. I personally don't believe that one religion is the right one, i believe in a god, and a heaven and hell, and that a man died for my sins so that i may live a wonderful life. Before saying that I am crzy for believing that one man died for my sins, and that it is stupid to worship him...first let me ask you this...if someone who never met you died so that you may go on out of love, wouldn't you be pretty adamit on thanking them everyday...if not let me remember that when you are dying of thirst, casue I won't bother to waste my time.
People need to respect other, and that is the bottom line. It is something that I learned from this site. Everyone has some good in them, and just because one person believes in God and the other does not, does not mean you should go and kill them over it...come on, that sounds a little selfish to me
First, peapd, I don't know if you know but the soviet union does not exist anymore, so I am confused as to why you kept referring to them in your post. I am sickened by the fact that Regan had the balls to say what he did. It really pisses me off when people use another persons faith to gain respect and domination. Religion is actually a great thing. It is a place for people with a same interest to get togther and talk about..kinda like sunday fottball gatherings if you will.
I don't think that many believe that only those who believe in god are good. Because that is very naive and dangerous. I know many people who don't believe in god, and i love them just as much as someone who does. I don't care if you believe in god or not, if you are bad you are bad, case dismissed, there is nothing else to it. I can't stand it that people still use this crap to get what they want.
Wars have been going on for centuries on whose religion is right. I personally don't believe that one religion is the right one, i believe in a god, and a heaven and hell, and that a man died for my sins so that i may live a wonderful life. Before saying that I am crzy for believing that one man died for my sins, and that it is stupid to worship him...first let me ask you this...if someone who never met you died so that you may go on out of love, wouldn't you be pretty adamit on thanking them everyday...if not let me remember that when you are dying of thirst, casue I won't bother to waste my time.
People need to respect other, and that is the bottom line. It is something that I learned from this site. Everyone has some good in them, and just because one person believes in God and the other does not, does not mean you should go and kill them over it...come on, that sounds a little selfish to me
Politics and religion are so intertwined throughout history that they are almost inextricable from each other.
I've heard that Sharia Law is being considered here in Canada. Personally I'm not for it as there is no equality between men and women of the Muslim faith. If there is I sure am not seeing it neither on the street, in peoples homes that I personally know or in the work place. Just take a drive thru Surrey and you'll find women walking behind their husbands as well as watching the boys get treated extra special because they are boys and are more important in the family than the women. Heck we've even had women murdered because they left their abusive husband from some pre-arranged marriage. And all in the name of culture and religion. This is our country, live by our laws or go back to the laws you are so fond of.
hollowback,
the isaac asimov essay is just an example of some nice logic. And thanks for telling me the soviet union does not exist, I never realized that. And I don't care what anybody worships, even a doll made out of dung. If its not hurting anybody, that their business. People express why they believe in their deity, and some express why they don't. Its called free thinking.
the isaac asimov essay is just an example of some nice logic. And thanks for telling me the soviet union does not exist, I never realized that. And I don't care what anybody worships, even a doll made out of dung. If its not hurting anybody, that their business. People express why they believe in their deity, and some express why they don't. Its called free thinking.
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I would love to hear more about the reasons why Sharia law is being considered here. It is my understanding that it does not negate Canadian law, but simply allows the premises behind Sharia law to be introduced into legal arguments and procedures.
Clearly I need to do more reading on this to get a better understanding of it. A quick attempt to do just that made me realize there has been quite a hysterical knee-jerk reaction happening in the media (especially reporting from the US) on this subject.
It seems to me there is a precedent for this, is there not? Are any other religions - including Christianity - given consideration in any way in our legal system?
I would love to hear more about the reasons why Sharia law is being considered here. It is my understanding that it does not negate Canadian law, but simply allows the premises behind Sharia law to be introduced into legal arguments and procedures.
Clearly I need to do more reading on this to get a better understanding of it. A quick attempt to do just that made me realize there has been quite a hysterical knee-jerk reaction happening in the media (especially reporting from the US) on this subject.
It seems to me there is a precedent for this, is there not? Are any other religions - including Christianity - given consideration in any way in our legal system?
Interesting link, Pea, thanks.
As I learned elsewhere, this indeed is not the first example of such a thing in Canada, there are Jewish religious courts under Ontario's Arbitration Act.
I wonder, is participation voluntary in these procedings? It sounds as though it is. Are Christian beliefs incorporated into our legal procedings as well?
To have religious-based arbitration of ANY kind in our legal procedings seems mighty wrong to me. I'd be interested in hearing any views as to why it might be considered a good thing?
As I learned elsewhere, this indeed is not the first example of such a thing in Canada, there are Jewish religious courts under Ontario's Arbitration Act.
I wonder, is participation voluntary in these procedings? It sounds as though it is. Are Christian beliefs incorporated into our legal procedings as well?
To have religious-based arbitration of ANY kind in our legal procedings seems mighty wrong to me. I'd be interested in hearing any views as to why it might be considered a good thing?