Religion Makes People Helpful And Generous

[In Between Man]

That's always a problem with sociology. I think they do a very good job considering but it is very difficult if not impossible to apply the scientific method to groups of people.

I just liked this article because it gave a plausible explanation as to why religion exists at all and why people might feel so drawn to it.

Maybe people use their reason and logic and come to that conclusion.

Maybe everyone knows God exists, but some just choose to suppress it.

 

[Scott Free]

It' not a fact. Just an assertion.

No, it is a fact. There have been a few studies that have demonstrated this very well. Also there is no evidence from medical records that religious people are any less likely to get sick or recover sooner.

So it is true. It is a fact.

I could worship Jesus, Mohammad or a lump of poop and the effect would be the same.

 

[In Between Man]

No, it is a fact. There have been a few studies that have demonstrated this very well. Also there is no evidence from medical records that religious people are any less likely to get sick or recover sooner.

So it is true. It is a fact.

I could worship Jesus, Mohammad or a lump of poop and the effect would be the same.

Prayers not getting answered.....happens billions of times a day...could just mean God ain't listening. This isn't evidence against God..... Just an assertion....imo, i guess...

 

[Scott Free]

On one hand, you half heartily say there are intelligent people who believe in God. Each person must use his own reason, and make their own decision. --

Half heartily? Where on earth did you get that from? The smartest man I have ever met is a raging religionist.

You wish to do away with that level of reasoning, or that way of thinking, whatever....
(like we're lower than you) Implying that your view is absolutely correct. That something religious fanatics want.

We have had centuries of war since the dawn of man because of religion. Religion and god have had their day and they blew it.

I no longer care what religionists want; I want peace, an end to war, and an end to their tyranny.

If you truly believe that a person should use their reason and logic to determine the big answers, then you need to realize that all conclusions involve making an interpretation, including yours. And in order for you know that my interpretation is objectively wrong, you would have to know what is objectively right. Here's the kicker: a lot of atheists don't even want to acknowledge that their is an objective answer! Is there? What is the objective interpretation? One one view can be right.

Your using a straw man fallacy. I never said any of those things.

I would like people to think logically and rationally about the decisions they make in regard to religion.

I have no problem with religious people, I have a problem with religious people who don't think, zealots and fanatics.

I have no problem with moderate religion. If people want to delude themselves then they should be allowed to do it but when they wish to force those fantasies on the rest of the world the buck stops!

Now I gotta admit, there's a lot of stupid religious people out there. Me personally, I believe you and me have the absolute right to believe whatever we want, respectfully.

I agree but only so long as we understand our belief does not justify any action.

To say things that imply that your view should be advanced in the world, and mine stamped out, disappoints me.

Too bad.

Religion has done too much harm for anymore half measures.

The only way we can take the great debate to the next level, is by first respecting each other.

That would have been good advice 1500-2000-4000 years ago or more but religionists do not heed it. They burn, explode, blast, rape, pillage, mutilate and any other despicable act you can think of through the rights of other people. They (fanatics) do that because they think they have the right. A right given to them by an invisible sky god no less! Religionists have no authority because god does not exist and therefore does not back them up. They (fanatics) are violent petty fools.

When they wish it they burn people at the stake but when they are themselves put to the test they beg for mercy and understanding! Too late my friend. I will call religion and religious thinking what it is.

I read your post on how you have reflex to religion, based on dealings in your past. The actions of humans have nothing to do with what is the correct interpretation.

So now you argue god is powerless!?!?! Which is it? Is he god or some boob? You cannot have it both ways.

I've met some atheists that are really nice, and I consider them good friends. I've also met some atheists who were real jerks. It doesn't mean that atheism isn't true.

Let me make myself perectly clear. Being an atheist does not mean someone has good character or knows how to think. I never for a moment suggested it did.

This may come as a shock to you but I'm not actually an aethiest. I can't say absolutely there isn't a god. What I can say absolutely is that religion has absolutely nothing to do with god, that god doesn't answer prayers and doesn't care how you live your life. That I know as fact. Religion is man made.

Chances are really terribly tiny tiny weeny itsy bitsy small that god exists but I can't disprove it.

Please don't be too harsh on me....lol.......

I never mean to offend people.

I know I do but I don't intend it.

 

[Scott Free]

Prayers not getting answered.....happens billions of times a day...could just mean God ain't listening.

um... neither does Santa Clause.... does he exist? I'm afraid some evidence - hell, any evidence would do. The problem is though, there isn't any. There is just evidence against.

 

[eanassir]

I can build an idol out of clay right now, pray to it, and scientifically speaking in real world terms my prayers would be as likely as yours to be answered. In point of fact I could pray to my car, my dog, your god or not bother at all and the chances of my prayers being answered wouldn't increase even slightly. That's just the fact.

Is this the logic that you speak about?

I here declare that God answered a large number of my prayers: some requests were of little importance, and others were very important to me.

Most of my answered requests were in secret: i.e. between me and God – be glorified – and this I do not deny and I am thankful to all His bounties and favors.

Examples of some prayers and supplications:

In the "Holy Traditions" [: some of Prophet Mohammed traditions, speaking in the name of God, but by the expression of the words of the prophet himself: such traditions are not the Quran.] that God said to Moses: "Moses, ask of Me anything: even though it be some salt for your food."
This means: God says to Moses: Ask your needs [whether trivial or serious] exclusively from Me, and I shall grant it to you; but don't ask your requests from anyone apart from Me.

Jesus said in the Gospel to his disciples: "Ask whatever you need from God your Lord, and He will surely give it to you; have you seen any father give to his son a scorpion when he asks his father for some bread?" Or something like that as do I remember.

Some of the believers asked Prophet Mohammed – peace be on him: "Is our Lord far so that we shall cry to Him, or is He Near so that we shall supplicate Him secretly?"
Then this aya 2: 186​

وَإِذَا سَأَلَكَ عِبَادِي عَنِّي فَإِنِّي قَرِيبٌ أُجِيبُ دَعْوَةَ الدَّاعِ إِذَا دَعَانِ فَلْيَسْتَجِيبُواْ لِي وَلْيُؤْمِنُواْ بِي لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْشُدُونَ​

The explanation:
(And when My servants ask you [Mohammed] concerning Me, then, surely, I am Near; I answer the prayer's prayer when he prays to Me.

So let them seek My answer [by being obedient to Me],

and let them believe in Me [and My Holy Names]; so that they may be led aright.)

And in another aya 40: 60​

وَقَالَ رَبُّكُمُ ادْعُونِي أَسْتَجِبْ لَكُمْ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ عَنْ عِبَادَتِي سَيَدْخُلُونَ جَهَنَّمَ دَاخِرِينَ​

The explanation:
(And your Lord has said: "Pray to Me and I will hear your prayer; surely, those who scorns My service, they will enter Hell, disgraced.)

Therefore, ask all your needs from God; He is Near, All-Hearing and All-Able to grant you your needs; but on some conditions:​

• You should ask from God alone; do not associate in your prayer by asking at the same time from Jesus, saints, or any other prophet or angel or imam; or by making such righteous men as some mediaters or intercessors between you and God; because the prayer in such instances may not be answered. But ask your needs from your Lord directly.
• Be certain and sure in your prayer that God will grant it to you, and He hears, sees you and is All-Able to give you your request.
• You should be polite in your praying your Lord, more than you do to your boss, or your king: praise the Lord, celebrate and glorify Him and humble yourself before the Creator of the tremendous galaxies and all the creation.
• It is better that you pray him secretly: between you and Him.
• He will answer your prayer with His generosity, in case it is to your advantage: because you may request something you see useful, while in fact is dangerous or bad for you.

E.g. you love a girl and want to marry her, but God may not give her to you; because she may be bad and betray you in the future, or quarrel with your mother and if you be to the side of the girl against your mother you will go to Hell because that girl that you loved her.

Or you want to have some job which is not proper for you, or will cause you some problems …etc. That is because God knows the fore-future and the secret in addition to the known affairs.
Begging from God


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[eanassir]

Eanassir, how can you put so much faith in a mythical book?

Durka, the Quran is not a book of myth; the Quran is the authentic word of God; read at least the translation of the meaning of the Quran by a non-muslim translator: A J Arberry

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu64ecPFIPjcBVXFXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1OTM3bjNpBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1NBTUEwMDFfNzM-/SIG=121gskut6/EXP=1223868830/**http%3a//www.mlivo.com/translations/Arberry.htm

(although his translation is much defective; and any translation is only the translation of the meaning according to the understanding of such translator.)


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[diamond lady]

i think this translation is better.

http://abdurrahman.org/qurantafseer/Quraan__Meaning_in_English__Khan_and_Hilalee.pdf

peace.

 

[Scott Free]

Is this the logic that you speak about?

I here declare that God answered a large number of my prayers: some requests were of little importance, and others were very important to me.

Most of my answered requests were in secret: i.e. between me and God – be glorified – and this I do not deny and I am thankful to all His bounties and favors.
​

I could say the exact same thing about a lump of pooh: I pray to it and it answers me but that doesn't make it so.

All you have demonstrated is your bias.

If your really interested in how you delude yourself then look into the work of Elizabeth F. Loftus and check out the misinformation effect.

If you really want to make your case then you need to stop quoting the Qur'an - that is not proof. If the Qur'an is true and Muhammad is who he says he is then you should have no problem demonstrating it in the real world.

I expect you're not sincere and you know your god is false. This is why you must quote the Qur'an and use the begging the question fallacy to make your extremely weak case.

If you are a true believer in god and Muhammad then you wouldn't fear logic. If you believed you would learn logic and defend your god. Instead you make him look silly.

If your god is real there must be proof and that proof must be everywhere not just in some book - so be brave and prove it! Where is this god of yours?

 

[eanassir]

I could say the exact same thing about a lump of pooh: I pray to it and it answers me but that doesn't make it so.

How is that? Does the lump of clay hear or answer anything?

While God answered my prayers and helped me against my enemy and saved me from many dangers and provided for me according to my request, and even He gave me a suit-case that I requested of Him. In addition to hundreds of other things: He made me a doctor as I requested, and to work in a near hospital and in a near district without any mediation and without any recommendation from anyone, in addition to hundreds of other things and affairs at many intervals of my life. And many other things: personal that I cannot tell everything. All that was not because I was good and deserved it, but because He is Generous and gave me all that to see whether I shall be grateful (which will be good for my behalf) or ungrateful (which will be aginst me.)

The story of the suit-case:

This is a simple request: you think it is simple; but to God the simple and the important thing is all the same: nothing is difficult to him.

That is because God said to Moses: "Moses, ask Me for all your needs, eventhough it be some salt for your food."

It means: Eventhough the salt is cheap, and the amount you need is only little, but ask of Me and don't ask from others.

I needed a suit-case, but at that time, I was collecting some money for some personal purpose; so I asked God secretly within myself so that no one might hear what I said. I prayed Him to provide for me a suit case to carry some dictionaries and some translations of the meaning of the Glorious Quran.

Now, one of my relatives was admitted to the hospital, and I took some additional special care for him, according to his kinship; then his son said: "Thank you Dr.; I shall present to you a suit case!"

I surprised from this, and said to him: "No need, I did this to your father; because he is my relative, and I don't need any present from you." But he insisted and brought to me a new and excellent suit case.

You will laugh and say what is this: a suit case! which I needed to carry some dictionaries to translate the meaning of the Glorious Quran.
But no one heard my prayer from me, other than God - be glorified - and He granted to me my request.

 

[ahmadabdalrhman]

I could say the exact same thing about a lump of pooh: I pray to it and it answers me but that doesn't make it so.

All you have demonstrated is your bias.

If your really interested in how you delude yourself then look into the work of Elizabeth F. Loftus and check out the misinformation effect.

If you really want to make your case then you need to stop quoting the Qur'an - that is not proof. If the Qur'an is true and Muhammad is who he says he is then you should have no problem demonstrating it in the real world.

I expect you're not sincere and you know your god is false. This is why you must quote the Qur'an and use the begging the question fallacy to make your extremely weak case.

If you are a true believer in god and Muhammad then you wouldn't fear logic. If you believed you would learn logic and defend your god. Instead you make him look silly.

If your god is real there must be proof and that proof must be everywhere not just in some book - so be brave and prove it! Where is this god of yours?

indonesia

every thing crash but no mosque crash

even the people back to the god

before quake

after quake

turkis

every thing crash but no mosque crash
even the people back to the god

 

[earth_as_one]

A jihad isn't necessarily violent though, correct?

I'm not Muslim and obviously E and A are more knowledgeable than I am about Islam..., but from what I know "Jihad" only means struggle. Jihad need not be violent. University for example is recognized by Muslims as jihad for wisdom. But jihad may include violence especially in defence from violent attack or to liberate the violently oppressed. Violence cannot be used otherwise.

Islam spread by violent revolution, but most violence was in response to attacks and oppression. Other violence happened, but unless it met the above conditions, it was in violation of Islam. During Islam's golden age, religious minorities religions flourished peacefully along side Islam. Even Jews fleeing persecution in Europe were welcome. During that era known as the dark ages in Europe when European Christians were busy burning witches and torturing confessions from pagans and Jews, Islam was a model of religious tolerance. After the fall of Rome, most of the knowledge and wisdom was forgotten in Europe while Islam continued to advance science. The European Renaissance was triggered by the capture of the Muslim library in Cordoba.

http://www.twf.org/Library/Renaissance.html

During the dark ages when Europeans were still struggling with how to spell their names, Muslims were at the forefront of technology. Christian sciences were the equal of Muslim sciences only in warfare.

 

[eanassir]

So now after passing of one hour I cannot edit my previous post.
By language mistake, I said "suit-case" while I meant "briefcase" in which I carry the medical equipments and the essential books.
This prayer although seen by some as simple, but it demonstrates how the simple and the important requests are granted by God Who knows the need of people, but they have to ask; in order to be an argument against this man; and God will say: "Haven't I granted you your request, but you were ungrateful?"

 

[eanassir]

from what I know "Jihad" only means struggle. Jihad need not be violent. University for example is recognized by Muslims as jihad for wisdom. But jihad may include violence especially in defence from violent attack or to liberate the violently oppressed. Violence cannot be used otherwise.
http://www.twf.org/Library/Renaissance.html

See at our website:
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
the following subject:
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/english3.htm#The_Jihad__the_Holy_War)​

"Question: Prophets call to the worship of God, by admonishing and by kind words, not by war and fighting; while Mohammed fought the associaters (or the idolaters) among his people!

Answer: The messenger of God called his people by admonishing and by kind words and by forbearance towards them.

That is His saying-be exalted- in the Quran, chapter 16: 125

ادْعُ إِلِى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُم بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ​

The explanation [O Mohammed,] preach to the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in better [ways and words than theirs,] for surely, your Lord knows best those who stray from His way, as does He know best those who [may] accept guidance.)

[It means: Deal with them by your good conduct and easiness, and reason with them by words better than their words, and God knows who among them is liable to convert, so He will guide him to the Islam.]

Moreover, God said-be exalted- in the Quran, chapter 41: 34​

وَلَا تَسْتَوِي الْحَسَنَةُ وَلَا السَّيِّئَةُ ادْفَعْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ فَإِذَا الَّذِي بَيْنَكَ وَبَيْنَهُ عَدَاوَةٌ كَأَنَّهُ وَلِيٌّ حَمِيمٌ​

The explanation: (Not equal is [the rewarding of people for] the good conduct, nor is the evil [conduct in requital by them]; then [O Mohammed] repel [the evil conduct] with a better [conduct], then one –between whom and you is enmity –[will become] as it were your friend [and] intimate.)​

But those of his people who were associaters idolaters) hurt him and mocked at him, and even they intended to kill him, but God saved him from their hands. Moreover, they hurt his comrades, beat them, tormented them with fire and cauterizing, and they killed some of them. ​

However, Mohammed-peace be on him- was patiently forbearing their harm; so that he did not fight them while he was resident in Mecca, but when he migrated to Medina (i.e. Yathrib), then at that time God ordered him to fight the idolaters, so he fought them; that is His saying-be exalted- in the Quran, chapter 2: 190​

وَقَاتِلُواْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ وَلاَ تَعْتَدُواْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يُحِبِّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ . ​

The explanation:
(Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. God does not love aggressors.)

However, Prophet Mohammed-peace be on him- fought the idolaters who hurt and denied him, and we should know that:
many other prophets fought the idolaters according to God's command:

(1) Moses had ordered the Children of Israel to fight the Canaanites, and take in possession their homes and wealth, whereas they had not hurt nor fought him; but only that those Canaanites were associaters (or idolaters) worshipping idols.
(2) Likewise, David fought the idolaters.
(3) And there were other prophets and apostles [like Abraham, Joshua, Prophet Samuel and Solomon] who fought the associaters or idolaters.

All that was according to God’s command; because God-be exalted- hates associaters and idolaters, and get angry with them, and gives [to their enemies] power over them, to humiliate them by killing and taking them captives and taking their wealth in possession."

 

[Scott Free]

indonesia

every thing crash but no mosque crash

even the people back to the god


every thing crash but no mosque crash
even the people back to the god

So what constitutes a miracle in your opinion?

Those were some pretty sturdy buildings. Why did god spare a hotel? Why didn't god keep the grounds perfect? Why didn't god protect the Muslim homes and just the mosques?

What I'm getting at is that it isn't unusual for a sturdy building to be left standing after a hurricane: For example this church after Katrina

Is this proof the Christian god is supreme or is it more proof that churches and mosques are built to last?

A miracle must be miraculous and these events aren't. It is perfectly average that some sturdy temples would survive.

Here is another church from WWII left standing after massive bombing:

Pretty ordinary really when you consider how well built it is and how big it is.

Here is another building after a twister hit Texas. Why did god save it? Could it be because it is sturdy and made of stone?

From the air you can see yet another example:

So why did god like this building so much?

If your going to use a miracle as proof then you need to find one that can't be explained better by nature.

I recommend reading David Hume:

The problem of miracles


In his discussion of miracles in An Enquiry concerning Human Understanding (Section 10) Hume defines a miracle as "a transgression of a law of nature by a particular volition of the Deity, or by the interposition of some invisible agent". Given that Hume argues that it is impossible to deduce the existence of a Deity from the existence of the world (for he says that causes cannot be determined from effects), miracles (including prophesy) are the only possible support he would conceivably allow for theistic religions.
Hume discusses everyday belief as often resulted from probability, where we believe an event that has occurred most often as being most likely, but that we also subtract the weighting of the less common event from that of the more common event. In the context of miracles, this means that a miraculous event should be labelled a miracle only where it would be even more unbelievable (by principles of probability) for it not to be. Hume mostly discusses miracles as testimony, of which he writes that when a person reports a marvellous event we (need to) balance our belief in their veracity against our belief that such events do not occur. Following this rule, only where it is considered, as a result of experience, less likely that the testimony is false than that a miracle occur should we believe in miracles.
Although Hume leaves open the possibility for miracles to occur and be reported, he offers various arguments against this ever having happened in history:

• People often lie, and they have good reasons to lie about miracles occurring either because they believe they are doing so for the benefit of their religion or because of the fame that results.
• People by nature enjoy relating miracles they have heard without caring for their veracity and thus miracles are easily transmitted even where false.
• Hume notes that miracles seem to occur mostly in "ignorant" and "barbarous" nations and times, and the reason they don't occur in the "civilized" societies is such societies aren't awed by what they know to be natural events.
• The miracles of each religion argue against all other religions and their miracles, and so even if a proportion of all reported miracles across the world fit Hume's requirement for belief, the miracles of each religion make the other less likely.

Despite all this Hume observes that belief in miracles is popular, and that "The gazing populace receive greedily, without examination, whatever soothes superstition and promotes wonder."
Critics have argued that Hume's position assumes the character of miracles and natural laws prior to any specific examination of miracle claims, and thus it amounts to a subtle form of begging the question. They have also noted that it requires an appeal to inductive inference, as none have observed every part of nature or examined every possible miracle claim (e.g., those yet future to the observer), which in Hume's philosophy was especially problematic (see above). Source

 

[ahmadabdalrhman]

okay

but the bible kinsfolk Good from the atheist any way .

then look to this in germany

look to this in germany

trend to kaaba ,,

and some of the germans proselyte to islam after this ,

then polity germany

bailey about this tree even the

people go far

 

[ahmadabdalrhman]

any way ,

we don't believe for this signs ,

we believe in quran

but this just for reminding

 

[Liberalman]

Religion also makes people fanatical.

Look at the Waco massacre and Jimmy Jones group that drank the poisoned Kool-Aid.

These groups lived the Bible and in the end they ended up dying for the cause.

Religion can make you or break you.

We have to remember that religion causes wars.

 

[eanassir]

Those were some pretty sturdy buildings. Why did god spare a hotel? Why didn't god keep the grounds perfect? Why didn't god protect the Muslim homes and just the mosques?

What I'm getting at is that it isn't unusual for a sturdy building to be left standing after a hurricane: For example this church after Katrina

Whatever God does of miracles and signs of His might and grace, the disbeliever and atheist will deny all that. ​

Is it only the mosques that are sturdy and other surrounding buildings are frail?
Is this a rule anywhere when hurricanes and earthquakes occur the mosques will not be demolished, and this is because they are sturdy!?​

Have you seen the high and slender minaret, why didn't it fall down?​

God – be glorified – said in the Quran 12: 105​

وَكَأَيِّن مِّن آيَةٍ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ يَمُرُّونَ عَلَيْهَا وَهُمْ عَنْهَا مُعْرِضُونَ​

The explanation:
(And how many signs in the heavens and the earth do they pass by? Yet they turn [their minds] away from them.)​

And He said in the aya 40: 81​

وَيُرِيكُمْ آيَاتِهِ فَأَيَّ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ تُنكِرُونَ​

The explanation:
(And He shows you His tokens; which then of the tokens of God do you [people] deny?)​

The temples of Jews, churches of Christians and mosques of Muslims are the houses of worshipping God. All these sects worship and serve God Almighty.​

This is in the Quran 22: 40​

وَلَوْلَا دَفْعُ اللَّهِ النَّاسَ بَعْضَهُم بِبَعْضٍ لَّهُدِّمَتْ صَوَامِعُ وَبِيَعٌ وَصَلَوَاتٌ وَمَسَاجِدُ يُذْكَرُ فِيهَا اسْمُ اللَّهِ كَثِيرًا ​

The explanation:
(Had it not been for that God restrains people: some men by means of others [He restrains the disbelievers by means of the believers], cloisters and churches and prayers and mosques – wherein God's name is mentioned much would have been destroyed.) ​

Because if God does not restrain the disbelievers and set on them the believers to wipe them out, then the disbelievers will destroy and transgress on the mosques and temples of God's worship and abandon the prayers, like Castro who prohibited the prayers and glorifying God's name.​

God's name is mentioned and glorified five times a day in the mosque: when the daily five prayers are established. ​

The temples of Jews are called "synagogues" (or the kenieset), while the Sabaeans call their temples the "mandie"​

The punishmen will not spare the Muslim because he is a Muslim: if he is a devil and evil-doer and adulterer and atheist and disbeliever and associating some imams and shaikhs with God; but only he belongs to a Muslim sect. Because the punishment is for the wrong-doers; hadn't they been wrong-doers, God wouldn't have destroyed them (and the greatest wrong is the association with God.)​

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[eanassir]

Religion also makes people fanatical.

Look at the Waco massacre and Jimmy Jones group that drank the poisoned Kool-Aid.

These groups lived the Bible and in the end they ended up dying for the cause.

Religion can make you or break you.

We have to remember that religion causes wars.

This may have an aspect of truth; but this is certainly not true for Hitler and his opponents, Napoleon and his rivals, Tayour leng, Jenkiz khan and many others from the time of Adam till the present time.