Refugee/Migrant Crisis

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
Regina, Saskatchewan
Stubbled across this and it’s interesting. it’s basically a timeline of Canadian immigration from the 1800s to the present, & I don’t think it’s accounting for refugees or foreign students, etc…but it still gives some insight and it’s pretty cool:


Hall of Fame Member
Mar 18, 2013
Washington DC
Ahhh, ok, so the first waves are exploratory in nature in a 16th century mindset, and once Europe is thoroughly discovered and pacified, then the woman & children will be sent for? Something like that in the comparison?
Could be. Or maybe it's just a caution that when you say "We don't hate immigrants; we just want them to come in an orderly fashion, obey our laws, and learn our language(s)," that's pretty much what the Americans said. Europeans didn't listen.


House Member
Aug 13, 2022
Canada’s population density is stretched over the 100 mile wide border with the US for all intents & purposes, which is irrelevant, & new Canadians aren’t settling in the unsettled portions, which is relevant.

There’s only so many hospitals and doctors and housing and so on and so forth…& that capacity can only be expanded at a certain rate with good leadership…& what we have coming is beyond that capacity and without good leadership, so here we are.

There is controlled growth for the betterment of all, and then there’s growth for the sake of growth which isn’t good for anyone in the end.

The link in post number 1533 is quite informative but long, & that’s the reason I quoted a little bit of it and posted a link.
Worse, people that were born here are facing significant tax increases to build more hospitals and schools and highways to support the tidal wave of new arrivals. Worse yet, all these government mandated projects are coming with significant unbudgeted cost over runs. A new $1.1 billion hospital is now up to $1.9 billion, and is about a year from completion.


Hall of Fame Member
Oct 26, 2009
Nine years after conviction, VIA Rail terrorist loses appeal

Author of the article:Michele Mandel
Published Jun 05, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Raed Jaser tried multiple arguments but Ontario's highest court rightly rejected them all

Thankfully, convicted Via Rail terrorist Raed Jaser will remain in prison where he belongs.

In an exhaustive judgment, Ontario’s highest court has unanimously refused to overturn Jaser’s 2015 convictions or his life sentence with no possibility of parole for 10 years, saying the Palestinian immigrant enjoyed a fair trial despite the religious tirades and increasingly bizarre behaviour of his co-accused, Chiheb Esseghaier.

“This was a long, complex, and unique trial,” wrote Justice Michal Fairburn on behalf of the three-person panel. “It would have been a challenge for any trial judge to maintain the fairness of the proceedings for all concerned – both the two accused and the community, represented by the prosecution…The trial judge managed to maintain that balance.”

Jaser has been fighting to overturn his convictions ever since a jury found him guilty of terror charges, including conspiracy to commit mass murder on behalf of al-Qaida. The initial issue on appeal involved a technical argument about jury selection which won the pair a new trial, but was then ultimately overturned by the Supreme Court.

Essaghaier abandoned his remaining appeal issues leaving Jaser alone to argue last December that he suffered a “miscarriage of justice” because Superior Court Justice Michael Code twice refused his request to sever his trial from that of his wacky co-accused, even after the jury pool watched Esseghaier prostrate himself in the prisoner’s box because his lunch break had been too short to allow him to pray.

One prospective juror was so irritated that she hissed, “We are in Canada. Would you please sit down. Jesus.”

She got dismissed, Code warned the rest of the jury pool to ignore what happened, but he refused Jaser’s request for a mistrial and a new separate hearing.

“We see no error in the manner in which the trial judge exercised his discretion in refusing the two severance applications. Moreover, his failure to order severance did not result in an injustice to Mr. Jaser.”

Self-represented, Esseghaier had insisted from the start that he only recognized the Qur’an and not Canadian law. Code showed the patience of Job, even agreeing to begin each day of the three-month trial with his protest: “Please take note that Chiheb Esseghaier considers himself as a visitor who gives sincere advice to the people of the courtroom, not as an accused who defends himself in the trial.”

Court heard Esseghaier was the “mastermind” of a plot to blow up a bridge used by a New York-to-Toronto VIA train to kill dozens, if not hundreds, of passengers in retaliation for Western troops contaminating Muslim lands with “corruption, evil and Christianity.”

Jaser preferred a sniper plot that targeted prominent Jews and national leaders. “We don’t want the sheep. We want the wolf,” he said.

He later contended he was a fraudster, not a terrorist, and was only pretending to go along with Essaghaier’s plans.

But the jury believed otherwise after listening to 25 hours of conversations secretly recorded by wiretaps and by a bodypack worn by the prosecution’s star witness — “Tamer El-Noury”, an undercover FBI agent posing as a rich Muslim-American businessman with similar jihadist ideals.

Among his many arguments on appeal, Jaser added this Hail Mary pass: “fresh evidence” found in the memoir later written by that agent which supposedly showed the judge had been biased against him.

In the 2017 book, the former agent described how he was leaving the courthouse after completing his testimony when his FBI handler told him that he’d run into Code in the private hallway: “He said to tell you that you’re not only a hero in your country, but in his. Your service and commitment will forever be appreciated. He told me to take care of you.”

Nope, that wasn’t going to win Jaser a new trial, either. The appeal court found the comments “innocuous.”

“Although we agree that the trial judge should not have made his ‘hero’ comment, in the context of the trial as whole, a reasonable person viewing the matter realistically and practically would not conclude that the trial judge was incapable of conducting the trial fairly. He did just that.”

So what’s next for the terrorist?

There’s always a bid to the Supreme Court — or the parole board. Jaser is now eligible to apply for release.


Hall of Fame Member
Oct 26, 2009
Flunking Lambton College student repeatedly breaks law, demands deportation to India
A Lambton College international student made an odd confession to a Sarnia criminal defence lawyer shortly after being arrested for mischief at a local shelter

Author of the article:Terry Bridge
Published Jun 07, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

A Lambton College international student made an odd confession to a Sarnia criminal defence lawyer shortly after being arrested for mischief at a local shelter.

“The gentleman instructed me as counsel that he broke the window on purpose because he wishes the Canadian government to purchase him an airplane ticket and deport him back to India,” defence lawyer Terry Brandon told a Sarnia judge recently.

Alwin Jaison, 23, of Kerala, India, studying in Sarnia on a student visa, was arrested for mischief about 7 a.m. May 12 after smashing a window at the entrance to River City Vineyard with a brick.

Jaison made another strange statement to Brandon during their private chat in weekend bail court that Sunday morning, the court heard.

“I was instructed to tell the police and tell everyone that if they were going to release him that he would commit the same crime again and he preferred to return back to custody because his intention was to go back to India,” she recalled.

Jaison stuck to his promise – he was arrested again about 3 p.m. that same day, this time by bothering patrons and staff at the Exmouth Street Tim Hortons. After his second arrest, he was held at the Sarnia Jail, where he stayed until last week, when he pleaded guilty to two mischief charges.

Assistant Crown attorney David Nicol told the judge they initially intended to offer Jaison, a first-time offender, a conditional discharge, so he could return to school.

But that’s not what he wanted, Brandon said. “This gentleman continues to state he wants to – even today – stay in jail until they can show him his airplane ticket.”

Brandon said she didn’t want her client to stay in custody any longer on those minor charges, but a discharge wouldn’t have brought the authority for deportation.

“It’s a difficult situation,” she said.

As a solution, both lawyers recommended a suspended sentence, which comes with a criminal conviction, and one year of probation.

“That is by virtue of that which is needed for the government to assist in terms of his departure,” Brandon said.

Justice Paul Kowalyshyn agreed to impose the suspended sentence and added a unique term to his probation order: Jaison must co-operate with Canada Border Services Agency officers and/or Lambton College to facilitate his return to India.

Border officers in court nodded in agreement with the probation term, while Brandon said she’d been told Lambton College would help with his departure, potentially even paying for his flight.

It’s unclear if Jaison has returned home. A Canada Border Services Agency spokesperson said by email Friday they can’t comment on an individual’s immigration information.

“What we can tell you is that the CBSA has a legal obligation to remove all foreign nationals who are inadmissible to Canada under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and who have a removal order in force,” Karine Martel added.

A spokesperson for Lambton College, home to about 1,900 international students amid an incoming cap, said they can’t comment on student personal matters.

“However, we are committed to our students’ wellbeing and have processes in place that provide emergency food and lodging, mental health supports, immigration services, and repatriation when necessary,” Jami Kloet added via email.

Jaison, who failed two semesters at the Sarnia school and lost his accommodations, according to Brandon, declined to address the court.

The judge lectured him for his behaviour before closing the case.

“It’s not the way for a young man, a college student – granted one who is not doing so well – a college student to act,” Kowalyshyn said.


Hall of Fame Member
Oct 26, 2009
Murdered B.C. girl’s brother tells Ali sentencing of mom’s grief
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Brieanna Charlebois
Published Jun 07, 2024 • Last updated 2 days ago • 1 minute read

VANCOUVER — The brother of the 13-year-old Burnaby, B.C., girl killed by Ibrahim Ali told the man’s sentencing hearing that his mother was “utterly destroyed” by the grief of losing her daughter.

The man, who can’t be identified because of a publication ban on the victim’s name, carried a photo of her to the witness box and says he was speaking on behalf of his sister who was raped and killed, then “maligned” during the murder trial.

A jury found Ali guilty of first-degree murder in December in a trial where his lawyers suggested the presence of Ali’s DNA inside her could have been because of consensual sex.

The victim’s brother says his sister was the world to his mother and since the July 2017 murder, she has completely “withdrawn from herself.”

The man says in an impact statement the murder changed his sense of safety and community and he’s considered not having children because it’s hard to imagine bringing them into a world “when there are very real monsters out there who would hurt them.”

Ali, who is attending the hearing via video link, is listening through an interpreter, something he refused to do yesterday after repeatedly telling the court that he didn’t kill the girl.

His conviction means a mandatory life sentence of 25 years in prison before he’s eligible for parole.


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Oct 26, 2009
Convicted Via Rail terrorist Raed Jaser loses appeal in Ontario's top court
He and Chiheb Esseghaier plotted to derail a passenger train between Canada and the U.S.

Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Paola Loriggio
Published Jun 12, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Ontario’s highest court has upheld the conviction and life sentence of one of the two men found guilty of terrorism charges in a plot to derail a passenger train between Canada and the U.S.

Raed Jaser had challenged the outcome of the 2015 trial on several grounds, including that his case should have been severed from that of his co-accused, Chiheb Esseghaier — something he requested twice, unsuccessfully.

Esseghaier, who was self-represented, refused to meaningfully participate in the court proceedings related to the trial, saying he would only be judged by the Qur’an, and had several outbursts in court, including one where he spat at lawyers and threw a cup of water.

Jaser argued on appeal that the trial judge’s refusal to grant him a separate trial compromised the fairness of the proceedings.

In a unanimous ruling released Wednesday, the Court of Appeal for Ontario said the trial judge made reasonable and legally correct decisions on the issue, and going ahead with a joint trial “did not result in an injustice.”

“It must be emphasized that the trial judge was confronted with an uncommon severance scenario. The more common situation involves accused persons who are adverse in interest on factual or legal issues, whereas this was a case of a disruptive co-accused,” the court wrote.

Having spent many hours talking to Esseghaier during the court process, the trial judge was in the best position to assess the situation as well as “the feasibility of the steps he took to preserve trial fairness,” and deference to his discretion is important, it wrote.

“This was a long, complex, and unique trial. It would have been a challenge for any trial judge to maintain the fairness of the proceedings for all concerned — both the two accused and the community, represented by the prosecution,” the court wrote. “The trial judge managed to maintain that balance.”

Jaser also argued the trial judge erred in assessing Esseghaier’s fitness for sentencing, and should instead have found Esseghaier unfit and declared a mistrial for both of them.

The issue arose months after the jury delivered its verdict but before sentencing, according to the court ruling. The lawyer appointed by the court to assist Esseghaier requested a psychiatric evaluation to help with sentencing, the document said.

The psychiatrist’s report went beyond a psychiatric diagnosis and suggested Esseghaier was not fit to go through the proceedings, the ruling said. The judge then ordered a second assessment that contradicted the first on the matter of fitness, it said.

The judge accepted the second opinion and continued with the sentencing process, the document said.

At the time, the judge noted that no one, including Jaser’s lawyers, had raised any concerns over Esseghaier’s fitness before the first psychiatric report, it said. He also found there were a number of flaws in the first report, it said.

Even if he had found Esseghaier unfit, the likely outcome would have been a delay in sentencing, not a mistrial, the court said.

“Once a jury has returned its verdict, a mistrial can be declared in only highly restricted circumstances,” the court wrote.

In challenging his sentence, Jaser argued the trial judge didn’t take into account the role of an undercover FBI agent in fuelling the conspiracy. Without the agent’s “active encouragement,” he argued, it’s likely the plan wouldn’t have come together.

The appeal court said it couldn’t accept that argument based on the judge’s findings that the pair had already come up with a plan involving multiple terrorist acts by the time they were introduced to the agent.

“On this view of the evidence, nothing (the agent) did could possibly have mitigated the culpability of Mr. Jaser for having entered into an agreement to commit mass murder,” the appeal court said.

This is the second time the Appeal Court has weighed in on Jaser and Esseghaier’s case.

They were found guilty in 2015 on a total of eight terror-related charges between them. They were sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole until 2023.

Jaser and Esseghaier were granted a new trial in 2019 after the Appeal Court found the jury that convicted them was improperly selected.

However, the Supreme Court of Canada later ruled the pair had received a fair trial despite the error, sending the case back to the provincial Appeal Court to hear their challenges on other grounds.

Esseghaier eventually gave up his appeal of his conviction, but Jaser proceeded with his and further sought leave to appeal his sentence. The appeal court gave him leave to appeal his sentence but ultimately rejected the challenge.


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Mar 18, 2013
Washington DC
🔊 Islam gobbled many other countries by sword:

  • Yemen was Jewish
  • Iran was Zoroastrian
  • Iraq was Christian
  • Egypt was Christian
  • Turkey was Christian

Europe is in the process of getting gobbled by Islam in next 20 to 30 years.

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True. Just ask the Americans, North and South, how much damage genocidal fucks hiding behind religion can do.
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