Ready for Justin’s carbon tax?

[Locutus]

Justin Trudeau is going to bring in a carbon tax. Just like his dad, Pierre Trudeau, did.

His dad called it the National Energy Program, and claimed it was for national sovereignty reasons, or whatever excuse worked with the media of the day.

It's 2014, so the excuse now is "the environment."

Trudeau announced his plans for a carbon tax last year in Calgary - at the Petroleum Club no less. It was a shocking announcement - but not a single other media outlet reported it, except a brief mention on the Globe and Mail's website.

Why would the media ignore Trudeau's speech calling for a carbon tax - a speech that is available on his website to this day?

Blazing Cat Fur: Ready for Justin’s carbon tax?

 

[Walter]

Turdoh is a shallow-minded twit, with all due respect.

 

[Praxius]

Yes, cuz the Carbon Tax idea worked sooooo well for the Liberals under Dion's brilliant leadership, I'm sure Justin will make it work this time around.


After all, so many years have gone by since that failure that I'm sure most of the country has already forgotten.


Seriously, why bring up his father as an example when there's a more recent and more relevant example looking us right in the face?


Same old Liberal mentality.... Do the same thing you did before and expect a different result because a couple of elections went by and people have short memories (though for some people that's probably true and will work)

 

[#juan]

Justin Trudeau is a member of what is, at the moment, a minority party. He is hardly capable of bringing in anything the majority don't want.. This topic reads like an attack ad. with no basis in fact.

 

[Corduroy]

We've had a carbon tax in BC for while. It's revenue neutral which means all the money generated from the tax goes to tax cuts for the rich. It doesn't work. In Vancouver it's still cheaper to drive than take public transit, which will barely get you anywhere anyway. No money from the carbon tax goes towards environmental programs. It is a regressive tax to funnel wealth to the upper class.

 

[Praxius]

Justin Trudeau is a member of what is, at the moment, a minority party. He is hardly capable of bringing in anything the majority don't want.. This topic reads like an attack ad. with no basis in fact.

The Liberals were a minority party under Dion too.... Didn't stop them did it? The only difference is that the Liberals were less of a minority then than they are now.


"If" what the OP says is true, then attack ad or not, the Liberals will soon become even more of a minority party.


As for basis in fact, the quotes are right there so either he said these things or he has been misquoted/misrepresented and should be getting those who misquoted him dragged through the mud.

 

[#juan]

The Liberals were a minority party under Dion too.... Didn't stop them did it? The only difference is that the Liberals were less of a minority then than they are now.


"If" what the OP says is true, then attack ad or not, the Liberals will soon become even more of a minority party.

I'm not sure who I'm voting for but if you look at the polls, it kind of looks like if an election were held today, the Liberals would likely win. Trudeau must be doing something right.

 

[pgs]

We've had a carbon tax in BC for while. It's revenue neutral which means all the money generated from the tax goes to tax cuts for the rich. It doesn't work. In Vancouver it's still cheaper to drive than take public transit, which will barely get you anywhere anyway. No money from the carbon tax goes towards environmental programs. It is a regressive tax to funnel wealth to the upper class.

We still have the carbon tax in B.C. I believe it to be 7 cents per liter on gasoline .
And no it is not cheaper to drive then take transit in Vancouver .

 

[Zipperfish]

Then Conservatives don't seem to have much in the re-election stratgey bag except Fear and Loathing. It's worked for them in the past. Doesn't seem to be working this time.

 

[captain morgan]

Then Conservatives don't seem to have much in the re-election stratgey bag except Fear and Loathing. It's worked for them in the past. Doesn't seem to be working this time.

I guess that weathering the global recession and having a strong economy don't count

 

[Zipperfish]

I guess that weathering the global recession and having a strong economy don't count

Well, I think htat would be a good thing for them to focus on. But are they even capable of running a positive campaign under Harper? I doubt it.

 

[Count_Lothian]

Trudeau created Petro Canada and developed the tar sands, now called the oil sands lol.
He created oil refineries and had a vision of cheaper energy in the long run for everything Canadiana .
Mulroney sold off Petro Canada to American interest along with America's free trade agreement which we get screwed on all the time.
The oil refineries were shut down, we have more oil yet higher prices than america.

Why are C logo loon boons pandering to these American sell outs? How far down this hole do you want to drag us?

 

[captain morgan]

Well, I think htat would be a good thing for them to focus on. But are they even capable of running a positive campaign under Harper? I doubt it.

The campaign hasn't started yet.

The best anti-Trudeau ads will originate from the NDP as they have the most to lose.

Trudeau, on the other hand provides an endless supply of attack material for the other political parties to use... It's rather entertaining to watch baby-t self destruct

 

[#juan]

The campaign hasn't started yet.

The best anti-Trudeau ads will originate from the NDP as they have the most to lose.

Trudeau, on the other hand provides an endless supply of attack material for the other political parties to use... It's rather entertaining to watch baby-t self destruct

He's self destructing? That is Harper's wet dream. I just watched J. Trudeau in a half hour interview with Peter Mansbridge. Trudeau handled himself very well, but what would we expect....He is intelligent and well educated, he should do well.

 

[Colpy]

Yes, cuz the Carbon Tax idea worked sooooo well for the Liberals under Dion's brilliant leadership, I'm sure Justin will make it work this time around.


After all, so many years have gone by since that failure that I'm sure most of the country has already forgotten.


Seriously, why bring up his father as an example when there's a more recent and more relevant example looking us right in the face?


Same old Liberal mentality.... Do the same thing you did before and expect a different result because a couple of elections went by and people have short memories (though for some people that's probably true and will work)

Yeah, and I actually liked Dion, who showed signs of a functioning intellect, a backbone, and a realistic vision of Canada.............

unlike Justin.

 

[captain morgan]

He's self destructing? That is Harper's wet dream. I just watched J. Trudeau in a half hour interview with Peter Mansbridge. Trudeau handled himself very well, but what would we expect....He is intelligent and well educated, he should do well.

Admires brutal dictators
Has good chuckle at the expense of Ukranian lives.
More flip-flops than can be counted.
Charging $30k per speech to charities when he should be in Parliament

The list goes on

Like I said, the NDP will be the loudest on the attack front

 

[Colpy]

He's self destructing? That is Harper's wet dream. I just watched J. Trudeau in a half hour interview with Peter Mansbridge. Trudeau handled himself very well, but what would we expect....He is intelligent and well educated, he should do well.

He is neither.

His lack of intelligence is obvious from the number of gaffes he has been involved in...........and a B.A. in Literature is no big deal, a BA being the equivalent of a high school diploma 50 years ago..........and the greatest congregation of morons on earth can be found in the faculty of any Education degree program.

If Justin is qualified to be PM, than I am over-qualified, as I have a BA with a double major in History/Political Science (NOT literature) and a 4.0+ GPA.....and I then endured the intense stupidity of an Education degree..........

 

[Corduroy]

Yeah, and I actually liked Dion, who showed signs of a functioning intellect, a backbone, and a realistic vision of Canada.............

unlike Justin.

Conservative Party Memo:

Stephane Dion is free from derision.
Compare to Trudeau.
Call him Justin.

That is all. Hail Satan.

 

[#juan]

Admires brutal dictators
Has good chuckle at the expense of Ukranian lives.
More flip-flops than can be counted.
Charging $30k per speech to charities when he should be in Parliament

The list goes on

Like I said, the NDP will be the loudest on the attack front

For God's sake! Surely you are more intelligent than that. You should be able to recognize hyperbole by now.. As far as the speeches are concerned, they knew the cost of the speech going in.

 

[captain morgan]

For God's sake! Surely you are more intelligent than that. You should be able to recognize hyperbole by now.. As far as the speeches are concerned, they knew the cost of the speech going in.

You know what the electorate is like, they (we) have the attention span of a gnat.

Expect a whole slew of ads that focus on these issues (among others)... The Libs will be doing the same thing, they will take hold of snippets of info and spin a story around them to support their message about Harper, Mulcair, etc.