RCMP in B.C. search for suspect after four-month-old puppy fatally shot

[Zzarchov]

Ok, so a guy gets drunk and hurts someone with a gun.

So you ban car ownership too?

I don't consider your need to not have to take the bus more important than someones life either.

No matter how you slice it, cars are more dangerous, more poorly enforced legally and just as useless (not to mention the hindrance of economic development they create).

If you took a Canada with no personal cars and a Canada with no guns, the no cars Canada would be safer, with fewer deaths, a better environment and more disposable income.

 

[darkbeaver]

Dogs in the woods are fair shooting for anyone if you allow your pet to run off leash in the forest expect it to be shot in my part of the country. You dog lovers don't have any idea of what spot and rover are doing when they're out for a trot, they killl indescriminatly small birds and mamals frogs anything they can get dies by mauling including deer. So if I run accross your puppy in the woods it's dead got that. Keep your flea bag chained up in the yard or train it properly as to where its perimiter is.

 

[Unforgiven]

Ok, so a guy gets drunk and hurts someone with a gun.

So you ban car ownership too?

I don't consider your need to not have to take the bus more important than someones life either.

No matter how you slice it, cars are more dangerous, more poorly enforced legally and just as useless (not to mention the hindrance of economic development they create).

If you took a Canada with no personal cars and a Canada with no guns, the no cars Canada would be safer, with fewer deaths, a better environment and more disposable income.

Let's see you rush someone to the hospital without a car. We can get along just ifne without hand guns. A car is something that has a use outside of killing pedestrians. You can't say that about hand guns.

 

[darkbeaver]

Can't imagine this... I never saw a bag of wet kittens drop 8O

In the old days a couple of years ago unwanted kittens were put in a bran bag with a stone and dropped in a bucket of water, that is a bag of wet kittens. You must leave them for a few minutes longer than you'd think, even little kittens have remarkable resiliancy and strength.

 

[Colpy]

Incompetent to say the least. There is no possible excuse if the guy is a legit hunter. If you don't have a clear sight on what you are shooting and know what it is, instead of thinking what it might be, then you don't take the shot. That he fled the scene and later turned himself in makes me think he or they were drinking/intoxicated when it happened.

No matter how you slice it, it's a clear case of the so called responsible gun owner acting irresponsibly. I don't think he should go to jail for ever either. But this twit should not be allowed near another gun. There could have been a kid with that little dog.

As well three more shootings in Toronto yesterday. Time to get rid of hand guns nation wide and put a lock down on the boarder to prevent hand guns from entering the country. I don't consider someones hobby to be of more importance than someones life.

Yeah, this kid was an idiot. What can you say?

DB is trolling a bit.....large dogs running loose, especially in winter, run deer to exhaustion killing many.......but hunters are expressly forbidden to shootat dogs....they are supposed to report them.

I might shoot a large dog if I saw it in hot pursuit of deer in deep snow....I don't know. I do know that is the only time I would even remotely consider it. Reporting it is, of course, a complete waste of time.

There was a kid with the little dog. The shooter was a complete asshole.

Now, how do you propose to seal the border?

Do you want to destroy the Canadian economy?

You can't stop the influx of handguns, brought in mostly by gangs involved in the cocaine trade.....if you can't stop them importing pounds of coke each week.....you can't stop them occassionally bringing in a gun.

Case in point......Jamaica. Every legal gun seized in the 70s, dumped in the sea. In Jamaica, you can get a life sentence for possesion of a bullet only. Jamaica is an island, you can't get more easily controlled borders.

The murder rate in Jamaica is ocer 35 per 100,000. That is almost 20 times the Canadian rate........

BTW, most of the killers in TO streets? Need I expand on their heritage?

Murder rates are largely a cultural issue....the tools will always be available to the criminal. Harassing me solves nothing.....it just pisses me off.

 

[karrie]

Jack Russells especially! They go right for the jugular and will travel in packs too.


"He was coming right at us!"



"We need to kill them to thin out their numbers"

Well, it's not like hunters are all a calm, brave bunch Unf. lol.

 

[karrie]

I don't think so. We're talking about a little white puppy being aggressive? My friend on Gabriola had a young Cocker Spaniel. Hardly dogs to warrant shooting. The shooter was an idiot.

I wasn't referring to the puppy juan, I was referring to whether or not shooting dogs on trails is all part of one conspiracy. As I said to Unf... it's not like all hunters are brave people. For some a cocker charging is scary enough. Go figure.

 

[karrie]

Ok people, reality check here.

These aren't two guys who hunted the dog down and tortured it.

These are two guys out hunting who had a hunting accident and shot a dog. And we really don't know what happened, its entirely possible the animal was running through tall grass or bushes in the same spot their target was moving too.

but lets keep it in perspective. The guy turned himself in, Im sure he isn't feeling too great about the situation himself, shooting a lil puppy.

While I agree, they will need to answer... why'd they run off?

 

[Unforgiven]

DB is trolling a bit.....large dogs running loose, especially in winter, run deer to exhaustion killing many.......but hunters are expressly forbidden to shootat dogs....they are supposed to report them.

I might shoot a large dog if I saw it in hot pursuit of deer in deep snow....I don't know. I do know that is the only time I would even remotely consider it. Reporting it is, of course, a complete waste of time.

Some law abiding gun owner you are. That you would consider shooting a pet that isn't attacking you shows just how law abiding you and your sickly ilk are. There are rules, that you don't like rules is your problem not ours. Get with the program or get lost.

There was a kid with the little dog. The shooter was a complete asshole.

See how quick the other gun nuts are to turn on their own?

Now, how do you propose to seal the border?

A Liberal majority with a hand gun ban mandate.

Do you want to destroy the Canadian economy?[\quote]

Do I look like a neocon?

You can't stop the influx of handguns, brought in mostly by gangs involved in the cocaine trade.....if you can't stop them importing pounds of coke each week.....you can't stop them occassionally bringing in a gun.

We should set the record straight here. You can't control the flow of Coke into the country. I could have it down to a trickle in a year. The hand gun problem would be sorted out within the mandated term.

Case in point......Jamaica. Every legal gun seized in the 70s, dumped in the sea. In Jamaica, you can get a life sentence for possesion of a bullet only. Jamaica is an island, you can't get more easily controlled borders.

The murder rate in Jamaica is ocer 35 per 100,000. That is almost 20 times the Canadian rate........

I don't give a damn about what Jamaica does. Let them sort out their own problems.

BTW, most of the killers in TO streets? Need I expand on their heritage?

Nice racist comment there Colpy. Expand all you like, I can bring right back and serve it up right in your bigoted gun nut snout. How many of you good old white boys sit on the Board of or own gun manufacturing companies?

Murder rates are largely a cultural issue....the tools will always be available to the criminal. Harassing me solves nothing.....it just pisses me off.

Cultural issue my ass. You're part of the problem and as soon as Canada take away all your weapons and either tosses you in jail or runs you off the better.

 

[Zzarchov]

Wait? You think you can stop guns from being used in illegal activities,

by making them illegal?

What? you think a criminal is going to "Oh no! Thats double illegal! I'll stop"

Stopping guns from coming to Canada from the US is even harder than stopping pot from going to the US from Canada, and pot is illegal on BOTH sides of the border.

We have the longest undefended border in the world, you really think your going to stop guns from reaching those who want them?

Its up there with thinking making illegal immigration a felony in the US will stop people from jumping the fence,

Anyone who wants a handgun in Canada will have one as long as we border the USA.

That is a fact, right or wrong. Laws need to take that fact into account.

 

[Zzarchov]

Let's see you rush someone to the hospital without a car. We can get along just ifne without hand guns. A car is something that has a use outside of killing pedestrians. You can't say that about hand guns.

You mean like an ambulance? The vehicle specially designed to take injured people to hospitals and provide emergency care? The one that isn't likely to crash due to the health effects of the driver?

The one thats only real danger is unlicensed nuts driving around blocking traffic?


Millions of people get by just fine in this country without cars. Most cars are not bought for practicality but for status symbols.

They pollute, cause way more fatalities are are likewise not needed except as a convenience. There are just as many emergencies in which you "need" a car rather than wait for proper and trained authorities as there are with guns.

But more people like their dangerous convenience of cars than like their guns (here).


Its just a hypocritical response

"Guns are dangerous"

' but I like my guns and im responsible'

"Its too big a risk, all guns need to be banned"

'what about cars?, they are dangerous'

"But I like my car...and Im responsible, so we need to keep cars"



Cars are above all a tool for the lazy and those seeking social status in our country. Public transit (if made available with the money saved on cars) could do the job of 99% of cars out there, and the rest could apply for permits as they need them.

 

[Colpy]

Some law abiding gun owner you are. That you would consider shooting a pet that isn't attacking you shows just how law abiding you and your sickly ilk are. There are rules, that you don't like rules is your problem not ours. Get with the program or get lost.

I see you haven't developed past the stage of your average 9 year old.....that thinks rules are rules and that is that. Adults have a little more sense than that.

A Liberal majority with a hand gun ban mandate.

Doesn't answer the question: how do you seal the border? without destroying the economy.

We should set the record straight here. You can't control the flow of Coke into the country. I could have it down to a trickle in a year. The hand gun problem would be sorted out within the mandated term.

Excuse me while I suppress hysterical laughter...........ok.

How?

I don't give a damn about what Jamaica does. Let them sort out their own problems.

No, it is an example of how impossible it is to stop violence with bans of inanimate objects.

Nice racist comment there Colpy. Expand all you like, I can bring right back and serve it up right in your bigoted gun nut snout. How many of you good old white boys sit on the Board of or own gun manufacturing companies?

Don't be an asshole. Truth is not racist.

Cultural issue my ass. You're part of the problem and as soon as Canada take away all your weapons and either tosses you in jail or runs you off the better

It is certainly cultural.....and BTW, I spent 11 years carrying a handgun and teaching armoured car guards armed self defense, and the laws on same....I've been much more a solution to the problem than you.

 

[karrie]

Some law abiding gun owner you are. That you would consider shooting a pet that isn't attacking you ....

The government in BC does not view your animal as a pet once it is chasing wildlife. They view it as loose and dangerous, and would not press charges against someone for shooting it in such a situation. We've seen neighbors have their dogs taken and destroyed over that behavior in BC. I have no clue what other provinces' views on it are, but, that's what it was where we were.

 

[karrie]

Breeder offers Quadra Island boy new puppy



Wed Sep 17, 11:05 AM


VANCOUVER (CBC) - A Surrey, B.C., dog breeder is offering another puppy to the 12-year-old Quadra Island boy whose Jack Russell terrier was shot and killed last Saturday.

Just three weeks ago, Lois Clough had sold the 14-week-old terrier to the family of Max Rose. Clough said she was appalled when she heard the puppy had been shot on Saturday morning.
"As soon as I heard about it, I knew right away he was going to have another one of my terriers and money wasn't the issue. He needed to have one and he needed to have one when he was ready," said Clough.
The dog, Seymour, was bought to lift the spirits of Max as he recovers from treatment for brain cancer. The puppy was also a replacement for another dog that had recently died.
"I have sent them photos of puppies, and when they are ready to pick out, they are going to," said Clough.
Nick Rose said the support they've received since his son's dog was shot has been overwhelming.
"We've had so many people offering puppies, offering help," said Rose on Tuesday.

 

[darkbeaver]

DB is trolling a bit.....large dogs running loose, especially in winter, run deer to exhaustion killing many.......but hunters are expressly forbidden to shootat dogs....they are supposed to report them.

Ground nesting birds are particularly at risk from domestic dogs as are various rodents and reptiles. When you walk in the grasslands and unleash your dog you are killing small animals what is a wholesome walk with your pet is in fact in many cases an hour of carnage for the local rightful inhabitants.

 

[Zzarchov]

Rightful inhabitants would rightfully be being mangled by Canines (Wolves and/or Coyotes) if man were not there anyways.

Part of nature is animals killing animals.