Rapporteur David Johnson, Eminent Canadian

Ron in Regina

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The trouble with lying . The story always changes .
Well, now we know a little more…
Here’s one newsworthy thing that has emerged from the hearings: either by design or incompetence, the Trudeau government did not forcefully or actively respond to Beijing’s interference operations in the 2019 or the 2021 elections. Not by way of the Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections Task Force, and not by way of the panel of five senior public servants attending to the “Critical Election Incident Public Protocol.”
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Another thing: Trudeau, his chief of staff Katie Telford and Jeremy Broadhurst, the Liberals’ national campaign director during the 2019 election, all went out of their way this week to impugn the various CSIS findings about the breadth and scope of Beijing’s subterfuge in Canada as unreliable, implausible and sometimes even inaccurate.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s testimony before the Foreign Interference Commission may have shed more light on his work habits than it did on existential threats to this country’s elections.
Apparently he’s too busy doing fun things, like partying with the Aga Khan and choosing fancy socks, to pay attention to this country’s national security.

“The best way to convey information to me is to receive a direct briefing from my national security adviser and intelligence adviser,” he said. That was a change from the, “I don’t recall” response that’s the go-to response for politicians and bureaucrats on the hot seat, but it’s hardly reassuring about the integrity of this country’s leadership.
It also contradicts what Trudeau’s chief of staff, Katie Telford, told a Commons committee last year, when she insisted her boss, “spends a lot of time with and most definitely reads” his briefing notes.
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Which one is it? Is the PM lazy, preferring his briefings via Audiobooks? Or is he merely incompetent?
So he’s questioning the veracity of the information he didn’t read? We’re left wondering whether we should fret about our intelligence agency getting things so wrong or our PM for not bothering to read what they said.
 
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Well, now we know a little more…
Here’s one newsworthy thing that has emerged from the hearings: either by design or incompetence, the Trudeau government did not forcefully or actively respond to Beijing’s interference operations in the 2019 or the 2021 elections. Not by way of the Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections Task Force, and not by way of the panel of five senior public servants attending to the “Critical Election Incident Public Protocol.”
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Another thing: Trudeau, his chief of staff Katie Telford and Jeremy Broadhurst, the Liberals’ national campaign director during the 2019 election, all went out of their way this week to impugn the various CSIS findings about the breadth and scope of Beijing’s subterfuge in Canada as unreliable, implausible and sometimes even inaccurate.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s testimony before the Foreign Interference Commission may have shed more light on his work habits than it did on existential threats to this country’s elections.
Apparently he’s too busy doing fun things, like partying with the Aga Khan and choosing fancy socks, to pay attention to this country’s national security.

“The best way to convey information to me is to receive a direct briefing from my national security adviser and intelligence adviser,” he said. That was a change from the, “I don’t recall” response that’s the go-to response for politicians and bureaucrats on the hot seat, but it’s hardly reassuring about the integrity of this country’s leadership.
It also contradicts what Trudeau’s chief of staff, Katie Telford, told a Commons committee last year, when she insisted her boss, “spends a lot of time with and most definitely reads” his briefing notes.
View attachment 21752
Which one is it? Is the PM lazy, preferring his briefings via Audiobooks? Or is he merely incompetent?
So he’s questioning the veracity of the information he didn’t read? We’re left wondering whether we should fret about our intelligence agency getting things so wrong or our PM for not bothering to read what they said.
Lazy incompetent and uninterested . Sunny ways .
 

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Well, now we know a little more…
Here’s one newsworthy thing that has emerged from the hearings: either by design or incompetence, the Trudeau government did not forcefully or actively respond to Beijing’s interference operations in the 2019 or the 2021 elections. Not by way of the Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections Task Force, and not by way of the panel of five senior public servants attending to the “Critical Election Incident Public Protocol.”
View attachment 21751
Another thing: Trudeau, his chief of staff Katie Telford and Jeremy Broadhurst, the Liberals’ national campaign director during the 2019 election, all went out of their way this week to impugn the various CSIS findings about the breadth and scope of Beijing’s subterfuge in Canada as unreliable, implausible and sometimes even inaccurate.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s testimony before the Foreign Interference Commission may have shed more light on his work habits than it did on existential threats to this country’s elections.
Apparently he’s too busy doing fun things, like partying with the Aga Khan and choosing fancy socks, to pay attention to this country’s national security.

“The best way to convey information to me is to receive a direct briefing from my national security adviser and intelligence adviser,” he said. That was a change from the, “I don’t recall” response that’s the go-to response for politicians and bureaucrats on the hot seat, but it’s hardly reassuring about the integrity of this country’s leadership.
It also contradicts what Trudeau’s chief of staff, Katie Telford, told a Commons committee last year, when she insisted her boss, “spends a lot of time with and most definitely reads” his briefing notes.
View attachment 21752
Which one is it? Is the PM lazy, preferring his briefings via Audiobooks? Or is he merely incompetent?
So he’s questioning the veracity of the information he didn’t read? We’re left wondering whether we should fret about our intelligence agency getting things so wrong or our PM for not bothering to read what they said.
Lazy incompetent and uninterested . Sunny ways .
I watch TV, the only guys who run from the cops are the guilty ones in blackface.
 

petros

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Ron in Regina

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It’s not a problem if you can manipulate it to your benefit.
…& control access to its existence, & ban as mis/cis/dis-information the exposure of the details surrounding it, and selectively steer benefits to your advantage and against you political opponents in Canada. In that sense foreign political interference is a win-win-win situation???
 

Ron in Regina

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Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly is dispatching her deputy minister, David Morrison, to China in an effort to thaw relations with Beijing’s ruling Communist Party, sources say.

It remains unclear whether this is a prelude to Ms. Joly visiting China, a country that has been dominating discussions at the Canadian public inquiry into foreign interference that is deliberating in Ottawa.

Mr. Morrison’s diplomatic mission, the sources say, will take place shortly. The Globe and Mail is not identifying the sources who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Last year, Ms. Joly expelled Chinese diplomat Zhao Wei after The Globe reported Beijing targeted Conservative foreign affairs critic Michael Chong and his relatives in Hong Kong in an attempt to gain leverage over the MP. Mr. Chong had upset China by sponsoring a parliamentary motion to condemn China’s repression of Uyghurs.

In October, 2021, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland denounced China’s ambassador to Canada for threatening Canadians living in Hong Kong, saying envoy Cong Peiwu overstepped his diplomatic role when he warned that granting asylum to pro-democracy dissidents could jeopardize the “health and safety” of 300,000 Canadians living in the Asian city.

The trip to China by Mr. Morrison comes after a group of five MPs and senators, most of them on friendly terms with Beijing, visited China, meeting officials of the unelected National People’s Congress and other state institutions. Three MPs – Liberal Majid Jowhari, Independent MP Han Dong and New Democratic Don Davies – and two senators – Paul Massicotte and Victor Oh – met Chinese officials in late March to push for improved relations.
 

Ron in Regina

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Foreign interference in Canada’s past two federal elections was likely worse than the government has acknowledged and may have swayed results in some ridings, says a coalition of diaspora groups.

In its closing submission to the foreign interference inquiry, the Human Rights Coalition said flaws in the system for public complaints meant election meddling was underreported.
“As such, the bodies that determine the extent to which the integrity of the 2019 and 2021 elections have been comprised likely did not have the full picture of the extent of foreign interference at the time.”

While it may not have changed the nationwide results, tampering by overseas governments did have an impact at the electoral district level, the coalition of eight diaspora groups argued.

“We submit that the commissioner cannot take the positions of government bodies that foreign interference did not happen to an extent that threatened the integrity of the elections, at face value.”
 

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Foreign interference in Canada’s past two federal elections was likely worse than the government has acknowledged and may have swayed results in some ridings, says a coalition of diaspora groups.

In its closing submission to the foreign interference inquiry, the Human Rights Coalition said flaws in the system for public complaints meant election meddling was underreported.
“As such, the bodies that determine the extent to which the integrity of the 2019 and 2021 elections have been comprised likely did not have the full picture of the extent of foreign interference at the time.”

While it may not have changed the nationwide results, tampering by overseas governments did have an impact at the electoral district level, the coalition of eight diaspora groups argued.

“We submit that the commissioner cannot take the positions of government bodies that foreign interference did not happen to an extent that threatened the integrity of the elections, at face value.”
Soooooo. We need a few by-elections eh?
 
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A group of Canadian MPs and senators who belong to an international parliamentary alliance critical of the Chinese government say the FBI recently informed their organization that many in their ranks were targeted by hackers linked to Beijing.

They say the Canadian government never told them of this People’s Republic of China (PRC) cyberattack despite the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation passed on the information to foreign capitals in 2022??

Liberal MP John McKay and Conservative MP Garnett Genuis are co-chairs of the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC) and they are among about 30 Canadian parliamentarians who belong to the global organization. They were only informed last week by IPAC that they were among 18 Canadians MPs and senators who were targeted?

Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc’s office declined to say whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or the minister knew of this targeting? It also declined to say whether the Liberal government asked the RCMP to investigate, whether it informed the continuing public inquiry into foreign interference or whether it lodged a protest with China??

In their statement, Mr. McKay and Mr. Genuis list several other Canadian IPAC members who consented to be identified as having been notified that they were targeted. These include Liberal MP Judy Sgro, Conservative MPs James Bezan, Stephanie Kusie and Tom Kmiec, as well as Senator Marilou McPhedran.

The Chinese hacking group with ties to the CCP government in Beijing has been nicknamed Advanced Persistent Threat 31 or “APT31.″

APT31 made headlines in March when American and British authorities announced criminal charges and sanctions related to a hacking campaign stretching back as far as 14 years. They said the group had mounted a sweeping, state-backed operation that targeted U.S. officials, journalists, corporations, prodemocracy activists and Britain’s election watchdog.

IPAC first became aware of this late last month from the U.S. criminal indictment unsealed in New York, according to an e-mail from the organization obtained by The Globe that was sent to a Canadian parliamentarian.

The U.S. Justice Department said APT31 was part of a program run by China’s Hubei State Security Department, an arm of China’s Ministry of State Security located in the city of Wuhan. The indictment said hackers sent “over 1000 e-mails to over 400 unique accounts associated with IPAC.”

IPAC followed up with the FBI after reading the indictment to protest that it wasn’t notified. “The FBI responded to this letter revealing that they had indeed told the respective governments of the targeted legislators in 2022,” the IPAC e-mail says.
The complaint from Mr. McKay and Mr. Genuis represents the latest incident where parliamentarians have discovered that the Liberal government failed to notify them that they were the target of hostile activity from China.
 

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A group of Canadian MPs and senators who belong to an international parliamentary alliance critical of the Chinese government say the FBI recently informed their organization that many in their ranks were targeted by hackers linked to Beijing.

They say the Canadian government never told them of this People’s Republic of China (PRC) cyberattack despite the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation passed on the information to foreign capitals in 2022??

Liberal MP John McKay and Conservative MP Garnett Genuis are co-chairs of the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC) and they are among about 30 Canadian parliamentarians who belong to the global organization. They were only informed last week by IPAC that they were among 18 Canadians MPs and senators who were targeted?

Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc’s office declined to say whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or the minister knew of this targeting? It also declined to say whether the Liberal government asked the RCMP to investigate, whether it informed the continuing public inquiry into foreign interference or whether it lodged a protest with China??

In their statement, Mr. McKay and Mr. Genuis list several other Canadian IPAC members who consented to be identified as having been notified that they were targeted. These include Liberal MP Judy Sgro, Conservative MPs James Bezan, Stephanie Kusie and Tom Kmiec, as well as Senator Marilou McPhedran.

The Chinese hacking group with ties to the CCP government in Beijing has been nicknamed Advanced Persistent Threat 31 or “APT31.″

APT31 made headlines in March when American and British authorities announced criminal charges and sanctions related to a hacking campaign stretching back as far as 14 years. They said the group had mounted a sweeping, state-backed operation that targeted U.S. officials, journalists, corporations, prodemocracy activists and Britain’s election watchdog.

IPAC first became aware of this late last month from the U.S. criminal indictment unsealed in New York, according to an e-mail from the organization obtained by The Globe that was sent to a Canadian parliamentarian.

The U.S. Justice Department said APT31 was part of a program run by China’s Hubei State Security Department, an arm of China’s Ministry of State Security located in the city of Wuhan. The indictment said hackers sent “over 1000 e-mails to over 400 unique accounts associated with IPAC.”

IPAC followed up with the FBI after reading the indictment to protest that it wasn’t notified. “The FBI responded to this letter revealing that they had indeed told the respective governments of the targeted legislators in 2022,” the IPAC e-mail says.
The complaint from Mr. McKay and Mr. Genuis represents the latest incident where parliamentarians have discovered that the Liberal government failed to notify them that they were the target of hostile activity from China.
What exactly does China have on Trudeau , inquiring minds want to know .
 

Ron in Regina

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Proof of how his financial portfolio grew exponentially, while in a blind trust, while he was prime minister, during a pandemic lockdown?

When Trudeau was running for the Liberal leadership, his campaign disclosed to the Ottawa Citizen that his personal fortune was valued at $1.2 million. Today it’s something like $100,000,000.00 on a salary of $400,000 for the last nine years? Canadas financial fortune hasn’t faired as well.