Rape Victim's Sentence Doubled
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Absolutely correct. It is repressive. It is placing the blame on the victim. How about teaching the young males respect, then the young females will not need to be protected by the law.
It absolutely has bearing on the subject at hand. Freedom happens in steps and stages. Saudi Arabia has not always been so "lenient on it's women as it currently is" if you go back in it's history. I say that with tongue in cheek.
Afghanistan is behind Saudi Arabia... but it is moving closer...
It clearly shows that Muslim countries do not all view things the same way and are perfectly capable of change when it is fought for.
I want you to look at this.... pleasenote where Canada and other "Western" nations are compared to Saudi Arabia.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
I disagree simply from the standpoint that as human beings, it behooves us to reach a hand back once we've found a toe hold.
What I can see as a reasonable expectation however, is to allow those subjugated to choose what they would prefer instead of their status quo. It seems to me that too often when help is offered, it's done without regard to the cultural dynamic and preferences of those that are being offered the 'help'. That's not help, that assimilation. Two different things, imo.
Are you seriously comparing the two cultures. We certainly have not progressed to full equality here either but we are light years ahead of a culture that whips the victim because she was raped.
Until men learn to fully respect themselves, there will be rape because rape is not about sex it it about power and control. With respect for another comes equality and the need for control and power vanishes. And so does the need to protect those who are viewed as weaker because there is no longer a vitimizer.
Damn right I am finding fault with another culture as a woman. I know how a former co-worker felt when she as a Muslim woman walked down the street and had her ankles wacked because her Berka was too short and a piece of skin was exposed.
As a man who is enlightened surely you can not see that stat as anything other than a number which can be manipulated.
First of all let me explain who usually rapes here in the West. Husbands and boyfriends... not some creep who jumps out of a bush. Husbands and boyfriends. What are the chances a woman in a Muslim country is going to report her husband for raping her?
It is zero. There is no such thing as rape by a husband in these countries. Those "facts" mean next to nothing.
Any law that suggests my behavior would be the cause for a man raping me or prevents me from exercising basic freedoms is repressive, yes.
Hope that's a better length for my post
Nope, but their laws haven't stopped rapes either. If you were a woman, I can bet which laws you'd prefer to live under. I'd rather live where I can at least report a rape without fear of being thrown in jail myself or being disowned from my family.
I get that I'm comparing 2 cultures and have an inherrent bias. We all do. That doesn't mean the comparison is invalid or useless.
Any law that suggests my behavior would be the cause for a man raping me or prevents me from exercising basic freedoms is repressive, yes.
Hope that's a better length for my post
The law doesn't suggest anything of the sort, and what "basic freedom" does this Sharia Law prevent YOU from excersising?
I was jumped on for comparing the 2 cultures, I had just pointed out that the one jumping on me had already been doing the comparing herself. Difference was she was comparing with the better light shone on ours while I compared with the better light possibly shining on theirs.
The thing is this. She was born and raised in Saudi Arabia knowing full well what the laws were in regard to her being in the company of males that were NOT her relatives. She chose to break that law. That was HER choice. Just because she may not have agreed with that law, or felt that it was "repressive" does not mean she can just ignore the law and expect that there be no consequences. Just because we, here in North America, believe that a certain law is "repressive" or we don't agree with it, doesn't mean we can ignore or break that law without suffering the consequences.