Raising ultimately happy offspring...

[JLM]

"that went well": Sarcasm?

We say "it doesn't matter what other people think" But it does. We are not solitary creatures. We do have a choice on how much value we put on what others think.

I agree to some extent as long as "other people" have all the facts. -

 

[Twila]

I agree to some extent as long as "other people" have all the facts. -

All the facts or just the pertinent ones?"


Sadly, many people seem to think facts and opinions are interchangeable.

 

[JLM]

All the facts or just the pertinent ones?"


Sadly, many people seem to think facts and opinions are interchangeable.

I guess with some people their opinion can be "facts" for them, in that it rules their existence.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

"that went well": Sarcasm?

We say "it doesn't matter what other people think" But it does. We are not solitary creatures. We do have a choice on how much value we put on what others think.

Precisely. That's the problem with doing child rearing, or any other complex task, by bumper-sticker slogans. For any profound, clever epigram one can concoct (or copy), there is at least one other, equally profound and clever, that says the exact opposite. Balancing these opposing and often mutually exclusive truths is what we call "life."

 

[Goober]

I am not talking about being 'overprotective', but instead inducing a more 'rational' semi-controlled environment that will wisen up the brats fast - this through ingenious aspects and educative intelligent ideals. Divulging 'wise' lore to the young through direct or indirect means and indeed foster a state of overall conditioned happiness - attributive to wisdom.

I robot.
Yep- All the same.
Kerist.

 

[Twila]

Precisely. That's the problem with doing child rearing, or any other complex task, by bumper-sticker slogans. For any profound, clever epigram one can concoct (or copy), there is at least one other, equally profound and clever, that says the exact opposite. Balancing these opposing and often mutually exclusive truths is what we call "life."

life. People have given this simple word so many connotations and meanings.

You hear people say: I wish I had a life (this one makes me laugh)....or ask "is there life after death? (which is extraordinarily funny given the order)

 

[JLM]

life. People have given this simple word so many connotations and meanings.

You hear people say: I wish I had a life (this one makes me laugh)....or ask "is there life after death? (which is extraordinarily funny given the order)

Yeah, it can be a little hackneyed to say the least! It's what you make it.

 

[Goober]

I solved the problem plaguing me my whole life in a different forum (9th from top + whole thread):
What is 'true happiness'?

I am now ready to raise children...

When the little darlings arrive, let us know how well the lessons you have learned worked out.
Each child is different.

 

[Twila]

When the little darlings arrive, let us know how well the lessons you have learned worked out.
Each child is different.

They should hand out pamphlets at the hospital that say just that "Each child is different"

 

[Goober]

No one escapes pain in this life. I raised four children and they are all grown now. Fortunately they are all doing fine. I would only suggest stressing to your child the futility and unimportance of trying to live up to others expectations and that being yourself is all anyone should expect from another. Our children are not our possessions and their journey is not ours to steer. Love them and be there for them on their way and they'll be fine.

Life experience teaches, failure teaches, pain, mistakes in judgment, friends, family, they all have lessons.
The issue is how often it takes experiencing these lessons before you learn.

With the attitude on display in phrases like "wisen up the brats" and that psychobabble you linked to, I'm inclined to doubt it.

And he states he is ready to raise a child.
No one is ready. Bogus is the most polite way of saying it.

 

[JLM]

When the kids were small I used to tell them smart people learn from others' mistakes, average people learn from their own and the dumb ones never learn. I'm not sure how much they were listening! -

 

[Twila]

When the kids were small I used to tell them smart people learn from others' mistakes, average people learn from their own and the dumb ones never learn. I'm not sure how much they were listening! -

lol. Some kids listen and some don't. Some can learn from lectures and others have to touch and feel.


My daughter, when she was little, was holding my hand and then she started to pull away. I wasn't about to let her run off so I held on tighter. She pulled harder. I tried to explain to her that I was unable to let go of her hand now because she would fall over. She wouldn't listen and she wouldn't stop pulling. She was leaning out at about a 45 degree angle. I told her one last time to stop pulling and I explained why. She wouldn't listen so I let go of her hand. She fell. But she learned...albeit the hard way. She didn't always have to learn the hard way. but for somethings she just needed to experience the results herself. Kids are funny and weird.

 

[JLM]

lol. Some kids listen and some don't. Some can learn from lectures and others have to touch and feel.


My daughter, when she was little, was holding my hand and then she started to pull away. I wasn't about to let her run off so I held on tighter. She pulled harder. I tried to explain to her that I was unable to let go of her hand now because she would fall over. She wouldn't listen and she wouldn't stop pulling. She was leaning out at about a 45 degree angle. I told her one last time to stop pulling and I explained why. She wouldn't listen so I let go of her hand. She fell. But she learned...albeit the hard way. She didn't always have to learn the hard way. but for somethings she just needed to experience the results herself. Kids are funny and weird.

Sometimes that is what it takes. I've often used the analogy of driving to Peru. I used to tell the kids if I was driving to Peru and met someone who had just driven the road, I'd get all the information from him about road conditions and surprises I might encounter on the way. I think they figured the old man was crazy. -