Racism around the world
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Good question. Political correctness attempts to right a wrong, but sometimes creates another wrong. Without it would we go back? I don’t know. I think political correctness doesn't make people good, or stop racism or sexism. Those attitudes will be around anyway. You can’t just say, "Don’t be racist, don’t say those words" and expect people to realize they're wrong. Only education will curb racism. But stupid people will always be around.
If pc were reigned in, I feel that racism would be as prevalent as it is now.
You don't think it would make a come back, to something like that of the 60's and 70's?
In all fairness, not every French Canadian took a shyte on me as a kid, but enough that it left a lasting impression. That was in the late 70's and early 80's. Is Quebec somehow different? While in Alberta, I was received well and saw very little racism, despite the claims of it being rampent, from the Native communities. At the time, I was in the Army and rather chippy, so I wore feathers on the back of my bandana, which was a miniture of the Six Nations flag, just trolling for rednecks. I was dismayed at the lack of re-action. That in itself being form of racism I guess, lol.
I take it you would be what is considered "white"?
If that is the case, have you ever experienced racism as a white man? I'll bet you have.
Not to the extent that you, or other races of people would experience. I only get it when I try to get an entry level job in the government. On the application it says that they're an equal opportunity employer, which is fine, if it were true. You have to fill out a questionnaire and answer if your a minority, French, female, 1st nation, disabled, or gay. They ask if you're gay! Since I'm neither of these I didn't get hired. It's not blatant racism, but its discrimination of some sort. I believe some need a helping hand to get a job (though the French do fine). For a data entry job, I applied and someone else from my work applied. I had more qualifications but didn't get it. My friend got it only because she was female and from Somalia. I'm happy for her, but I had more experience, knew more programs, and I'm a faster type. Not really fair.
My mother was the victim of racism. Just walking home from the grocery store a young man from the Middle East muttered as she walked by him "effing white pig". It was clearly intended for her. She was scared because she's wondering if allot of that sentiment is brewing amongst young Muslims.
I would hope we educate kids better today so that we would never go back to the racism of the 60's and 70's.
My mother was the victim of racism. Just walking home from the grocery store a young man from the Middle East muttered as she walked by him "effing white pig". It was clearly intended for her. She was scared because she's wondering if allot of that sentiment is brewing amongst young Muslims.
I would hope we educate kids better today so that we would never go back to the racism of the 60's and 70's.
If I understand your question correctly, the reason for this is the ultimate goal of a family to have a male child to carry the family name. If at first you don't succeed, try and try again. Similar thing in India. In fact, since India doesn't have any child controls, it's population will exceed China's in a matter of years.
You see?
Those experiences, lay frame work for more of an intolerance then a racism, but the leep isn't that hard.
And quite frnkly, I would'nt blame you. You and your mother were obviously raised well. As I think I was. I do not beleive in the hiring practices that require you to difine yourself in such ways. Nor do I believe in employment welfarism. If you are the most qualified, you are the man or woman for the job. You would not believe the ribbing I take, for having a female lead hand. Still to this day. It floors me, how do these trogladites function?
Even in some of the programs I look forword to working with in the new year within the Native community, I know I will be faced with judging or weighing the merits of some over others. There will be limited spaces in a few of the programs, so what should I do?
Give an opportunity to someone that is just showing up, because someone forced them, ie; a social agency?
Or give it to someone that is not so bad off, has a vested interest in the program and displays it.
One is on welfare, the other is not. Both will be Native, but what should I do?
From past experience, I have give opportunities to young Native men and women, who were collecting welfare, seemed disinterested in what we were offering, and it innevitably showed. They left the program or failed to meet expectations.
The other one, comes from a group I have seen excel.
Who am I to judge here? What if I'm wrong and I have been.
This isn't racism, but definitely discrimination. My friend is looking for employment but has been unsuccessful, she feels, because of her age. She has lots and lots of experience in doing different things, but does not expect top dollar nor does she want to start at the top. She simply wants to earn a living and wants a "reasonable" wage for a job, she's qualified to do. There are jobs out there which her qualifications meet and has excellent references but she's been unable to find anyone to hire her. After contacting some of the companies that she's interviewed for, she's been told the "position has been filled" and the reason she didn't get the job was that she was 'over qualified" and then a day or so later, the same ad appears in the papers. She still has at least 15 years of work left in her, why wouldn't anyone hire her? Any comments?
"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction."
- Cesare Beccaria
Next time stretch the truth, say you are a gay, black male with a limp. It's not like they can make you prove anything.
Growing up my father's family use to call me "Squaw" I never understood why until I found out my grand mother on my mother's side was a full blooded Mi'kmag. It was the "Family" secret, she was raised in a residential school and spent all her life denying her heritage. She would tell people she was french Canadian, how sad is that. I'm proud of my native roots, chubby cheeks and all.
Sometimes a situation may seem racist but it's really the polar opposite. When I lived in Manitoba I was at a drug store drinking free coffee waiting for my prescription to be filled and two native males came into the store and went to the perfume, etc. counter there was a sign try me and these gentlemen started drinking the ones with alcohol. I was mortified, after a scalding remark to the clerk from me she quietly told me that this ritual takes place every winter, they come in and drink the stuff she calls the police and the men are held in lockup for the winter months and when the case comes before a judge in the spring the crown drops the charges. They had no place save and warm to spend the winter so all parties devised this situation to help these men out. Yes the Natives were aware of the "Setup", but being homeless in the prairies isn't pleasant.
Racism
Racisms, like any other issues are from the inability to recognize the people as a equal individual with biased and absurd opinions. Overcoming it through internal personality is required in order for the society to advance.
Racisms, like any other issues are from the inability to recognize the people as a equal individual with biased and absurd opinions. Overcoming it through internal personality is required in order for the society to advance.
Racism is just one of many isms and it certainly isn't the most important one. Speciesism is far more devastating to the planet. The belief that our species is more deserving than all the rest by virtue of our intelligence. One gift amongst the many enjoyed by all the creatures of the earth. As soon as humans are forced to recognize and respect the habitat and resource needs of earth's besieged animal kingdom we'll really have accomplished something. Racism is child's play by comparison. Oh, and happy new year!
Are you trying to say that only European immigrants to Canada can make Canada rich but not workers from outside Europe?
Racism - or suspicion of one's differences when compared with others is primitive and originally was a means of survival and suspicion among differing land tribes.
With the knowledge and ability to travel available to all these days - racism is clinging to old outmoded and government-sponsored "double-speak" inadequate legislation demanding special privilege for some rather than expecting and trusting grown people to work it out for themselves.
PC actually separates rather than integrates. Nobody looks behind them at the guy paddling a canoe if that canoe is taking all of the passengers to safety and success. We are all paddling our way through life and things would be pretty comfortable if the governments would stop pushing "racism" to the people and they do in so many ways - because it allows for legislation and vote-getting to pandered groups.
When I see people grumbling about the influx of certain immigrants - their next comment is generally what the "government gives them or awards them" over the existing residents and inhabitants. Look what separation of the First Nations peoples and the European invaders did? It regressed one group to
unmentional lifestyle ... but I won't get into that here....because I am addressing ALL racial groups.
Racism also sucks. It keeps us from evolving.
My solution? Intermarriage...... It's the next step in our ever decreasing world.... there are no "strangers" among us any more.
My example? Tiger Woods is busily making a cub right now and I can't think of a better person to demonstrate how beautiful mixed race marriage can be - the best of both worlds - and it makes me
wonder what our governments are afraid of?
With the knowledge and ability to travel available to all these days - racism is clinging to old outmoded and government-sponsored "double-speak" inadequate legislation demanding special privilege for some rather than expecting and trusting grown people to work it out for themselves.
PC actually separates rather than integrates. Nobody looks behind them at the guy paddling a canoe if that canoe is taking all of the passengers to safety and success. We are all paddling our way through life and things would be pretty comfortable if the governments would stop pushing "racism" to the people and they do in so many ways - because it allows for legislation and vote-getting to pandered groups.
When I see people grumbling about the influx of certain immigrants - their next comment is generally what the "government gives them or awards them" over the existing residents and inhabitants. Look what separation of the First Nations peoples and the European invaders did? It regressed one group to
unmentional lifestyle ... but I won't get into that here....because I am addressing ALL racial groups.
Racism also sucks. It keeps us from evolving.
My solution? Intermarriage...... It's the next step in our ever decreasing world.... there are no "strangers" among us any more.
My example? Tiger Woods is busily making a cub right now and I can't think of a better person to demonstrate how beautiful mixed race marriage can be - the best of both worlds - and it makes me
wonder what our governments are afraid of?
I heard a different opinion. That it was done purely to overpopulate the world to simply take the control of it. Same story with the muslims now, the empty headed didn't learn from Chinese, but only think that they can control the world. What can I say, like someone here said before, stupid people are always around, and it seems in some nations it's the 99% of them.
