Quotes and Wisdoms

[Ocean Breeze]

As the incomparable Mary McGrory said, the United States "is the SUV of nations. It hogs the road and guzzles the gas and periodically has to run over something – like another country – to get to its Middle Eastern filling station."

 

[Ocean Breeze]

No man is great enough or wise enough for any of us to surrender our destiny to. The only way in which anyone can lead us is to restore our belief in our own guidance." : Henry Miller - (1891-1980) - Source: The Wisdom of the Heart, 1941

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"Our safety, our liberty, depends upon preserving the Constitution of the United States as our Fathers made it inviolate. The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.": Abraham Lincoln

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The injury we do and the one we suffer are not weighed in the same scales: Aesop, Fables

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He does not believe who does not live according to his belief: Thomas Fuller

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Live truth instead of professing it: Elbert Hubbard

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It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them: Alfred Adler

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A man generally has two reasons for doing a thing. One that sounds good, and a real one: Pierpoint Morgan

 

[ElPolaco]

"Everything in this world has a beginning and an end, except a sausage, it has two"---unk., old Viennese saying

 

[Ocean Breeze]

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grand-children are once more slaves.": D. H. Lawrence - (1885-1938)

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"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.": Edward R. Murrow - (1908-1965), American Broadcast Newsman

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I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations: James Madison

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The history of Liberty is a history of the limitations of governmental power not the increase of it: Woodrow Wilson

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The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of limitations of government power, not the increase of it. -- Woodrow Wilson, in a speech in New York City, September 9, 1912

 

[Jay]

"The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of limitations of government power, not the increase of it. -- Woodrow Wilson, in a speech in New York City, September 9, 1912 "


Good one. Wish we could get this accross to people.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I recoil with horror at the ferociousness of man. Will nations never devise a more rational umpire of differences than force? Are there no means of coercing injustice more gratifying to our nature than a waste of the blood of thousands and of the labor of millions of our fellow creatures?
: Thomas Jefferson

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"Men in authority will always think that criticism of their policies is dangerous. They will always equate their policies with patriotism, and find criticism subversive." -- Henry Steele Commager - (1902-1998) Historian and author

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"Who are a free people? Not those over whom government is exercised, but those who live under a government so constitutionally checked and controlled that proper provision is made against its being otherwise exercised." : John Dickenson - (1732-1808) - Source: Farmer’s Letters, 1767

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"No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please.": Hiram Mann

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"The civility of no race can be perfect whilst another race is degraded. It is a doctrine alike of the oldest and of the newest philosophy, that man is one, and that you cannot injure any member, without a sympathetic injury to all the members": Ralph Waldo Emerson. 1844

 

[Ocean Breeze]

"My father was a slave and my people died to build this country, and I'm going to stay right here and have a part of it, just like you. And no fascist-minded people like you will drive me from it. Is that clear?" : Paul Robeson (1898-1976) - from testimony before the House Un-American Activities Committee, June 12, 1956

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"The history of mankind is a history of the subjugation and exploitation of a great majority of people by an elite few by what has been appropriately termed the 'ruling class'. The ruling class has many manifestations. It can take the form of a religious orthodoxy, a monarchy, a dictatorship of the proletariat, outright fascism, or, in the case of the United States, corporate statism. In each instance the ruling class relies on academics, scholars and 'experts' to legitimize and provide moral authority for its hegemony over the masses." : Ed Crane

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Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power: Benito Mussolini

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"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group," : Franklin D. Roosevelt quotes

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Fascism is capitalism plus murder." : Upton Sinclair

Fascism =capitalism + murder = USofA.

Murdering in a far off land...qualifies...... as they are murdering their own people too. Just because the actual gov't killing does not take place on US soil proper.......it is still murder as the US is virtually controlling Iraq now.... so it is the setting for murder. ( as are those secret prisons ...... :evil:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

"Propaganda is persuading people to make up their minds while withholding some of the facts from them.": Harold Evans

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"The advancement and diffusion of knowledge is the only guardian of true liberty.": James Madison - (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." -- H.L.Mencken

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"I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it." : Thomas Paine (1737-1809) Source: The Age of Reason, 1783

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Mourn not the dead that in the cool earth lie, but rather mourn the apathetic, throng the coward and the meek who see the world's great anguish and its wrong, and dare not speak: Ralph Chaplin

 

[no1important]

"George W. Bush is an utter incompetent president, a war criminal, human rights abuser and a moron" ~ no1important circa 2005

 

[Ocean Breeze]

"George W. Bush is an utter incompetent president, a war criminal, human rights abuser and a moron" ~ no1important circa 2005

And those are his "good" points :wink: ~ OB. Circa '05 :wink:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

We don't torture people in America and people who say we do simply know nothing about our country." : George W. Bush - Interview with Australian TV - October 18, 2003

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Shamefully we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management: Edward Kennedy

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"They are torturing people. They are torturing people on Guantanamo Bay …they are engaging in acts which amount to torture in the medieval sense of the phrase. They are engaging in good old-fashioned torture, as people would have understood it in the Dark Ages." : Australian attorney Richard Bourke

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"Our enemies didn't adhere to the Geneva Convention. Many of my comrades were subjected to very cruel, very inhumane and degrading treatment, a few of them even unto death. But every one of us -- every single one of us -- knew and took great strength from the belief that we were different from our enemies, that we were better than them, that we, if the roles were reversed, would not disgrace ourselves by committing or countenancing such mistreatment of them." - Republican Senator John McCain

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Maybe they don't torture people IN America........YET.......but they sure do in other nations. ( think Iraq and other assorted secret prisons ....or no so secret)

fecking disgraceful.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Security is when everything is settled, when nothing can happen to you; security is the denial of life."

-- Germaine Greer

Our personality likes to be in control. It likes to know how things are and what’s going to happen. Underlying this desire for stability and predictability is a deep fear that the world is a dangerous place. The personality fears it will not survive without continually being on guard.

The truth is: we cannot control what happens in life. And under the natural law of attraction, we tend to attract to us what we focus on. EXPLORE SUBSTITUTING TRUST FOR FEAR and the world becomes a gentler, happier place.

"There are no guarantees. From the viewpoint of fear, none are strong enough. From the viewpoint of love, none are necessary."

-- Emmanuel

"One thing we can do is make the choice to view the world in a healthy way. We can choose to see the world as safe with only moments of danger rather than seeing the world as dangerous with only moments of safety."

 

[Ocean Breeze]

They have always taught and trained you to believe it to be your patriotic duty to go to war and to have yourselves slaughtered at their command. But in all the history of the world you, the people, have never had a voice in declaring war, and strange as it certainly appears, no war by any nation in any age has ever been declared by the people: Eugene Debs

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The first step in a fascist movement is the combination under an energetic leader of a number of men who possess more than the average share of leisure, brutality, and stupidity. The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other. (Bertrand Russell: Freedom, Harcourt Brace, 1940)

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One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous: Carl Sagan

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"Philosophy should always know that indifference is a militant thing. It batters down the walls of cities and murders the women and children amid the flames and the purloining of altar vessels. When it goes away it leaves smoking ruins, where lie citizens bayonetted through the throat. It is not a children's pastime like mere highway robbery." : Stephen Crane

 

[Ocean Breeze]

It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.": Samuel Adams

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"The corporate grip on opinion in the United States is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First World country has ever managed to eliminate so entirely from its media all objectivity — much less dissent.

"Of course, it is possible for any citizen with time to spare, and a canny eye, to work out what is actually going on, but for the many there is not time, and the network news is the only news even though it may not be news at all but only a series of flashing fictions..." : Gore Vidal

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"Following the same course that virtually every other major industry has in the last two decades, a relentless series of mergers and corporate takeovers has consolidated control of the media into the hands of a few corporate behemoths.

"The result has been that an increasingly authoritarian agenda has been sold to the American people by a massive, multi-tentacled media machine that has become, for all intents and purposes, a propaganda organ of the state.": David McGowan

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"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." : Mark Twain. The Mysterious Stranger 1916.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I believe that justice is instinct and innate; the moral sense is as much a part of our constitution as that of feeling, seeing and hearing: Thomas Jefferson : 3rd US president, principal author of the Declaration of Independence, 1743-1826.

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To sin is a human business, to justify sins is a devilish business: Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoy : Russian author, 1828-1910

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Justice denied anywhere diminishes justice everywhere: Martin Luther King, Jr. : 1929-1968

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Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace: Dwight David Eisenhower : 34th president of the United States, 1890-1969

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Nothing short of self-respect and that justice which is essential to a national character ought to involve us in war: George Washington: First President of the United States, 1732-1799

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Justice in the life and conduct of the State is possible only as first it resides in the hearts and souls of the citizens : Plato : Ancient Greek philosopher (428/427-348/347 B.C.)

 

[Ocean Breeze]

In violence, we forget who we are : Mary McCarthy : American novelist and critic,1912-1989

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Political history is largely an account of mass violence and of the expenditure of vast resources to cope with mythical fears and hopes : Murray Edelman

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Democracy don’t rule the world, You’d better get that in your head; This world is ruled by violence, But I guess that’s better left unsaid. : Bob Dylan : American folksinger, b.1941

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You have to show violence the way it is. If you don’t show it realistically, then that’s immoral and harmful. If you don’t upset people, then that’s obscenity: Roman Polanski

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When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war. War settles nothing: Dwight David Eisenhower : 34th president of the United States, 1890-1969

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We have enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another: Jonathan Swift : Irish author and foremost prose satirist, 1667-1745

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As long as we hate, there will be people to hate: George Harrison: Musician, producer and composer, member of The Beatles, 1943-2001

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
-- James Madison, Political Observations, 1795

seems some humanity is learning challenged when it comes to issues like the negatives of war.----and are doomed to repeat history's mistakes over and over again. Just a different era, different amunition and different LIES.-----just getting bolder in the lies dept. :evil:

 

[jimmoyer]

James Madison was monumental in the writing
of the Constitution, but extremely weak as a President.

The White House was burned down by the Brits
on his watch.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: Quotes and Wisdoms

James Madison was monumental in the writing
of the Constitution, but extremely weak as a President.

The White House was burned down by the Brits
on his watch.

so , where are the Brits when you need them?? :wink:

 

[Hard-Luck Henry]

Re: RE: Quotes and Wisdoms

so , where are the Brits when you need them?? :wink:

Sir Humphrey: "Hello Bernard, I hear the Prime Minister wants to see me?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes, Sir Humphrey."
S H: "What's his problem?"
B W: "Education."
S H: "Well, it's a bit late to do anything about that now."

:twisted: