Quotes and Wisdoms

Ocean Breeze

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To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace." - Tacitus

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“So let us regard this as settled: what is morally wrong can never be advantageous, even when it enables you to make some gain that you believe to be to your advantage. The mere act of believing that some wrongful course of action constitutes an advantage is pernicious.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.)

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“A man who has in mind an apparent advantage and promptly proceeds to dissociate this from the question of what is right shows himself to be mistaken and immoral. Such a standpoint is the parent of assassinations, poisonings, forged wills, thefts, malversations of public money, and the ruinous exploitation of provincials and Roman citizens alike. Another result is passionate desire — desire for excessive wealth, for unendurable tyranny, and ultimately for the despotic seizure of free states. These desires are the most horrible and repulsive things imaginable. The perverted intelligences of men who are animated by such feelings are competent to understand the material rewards, but not the penalties. I do not mean penalties established by law, for these they often escape. I mean the most terrible of all punishments: their own degradation.”Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.)

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"Find out just what people will quietly submit to, and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." : Frederick Douglass, African-American slave, and later abolitionist.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Knowledge of any kind ... brings about a change in awareness from where it is possible to create new realities."

-- Deepak Chopra

As we evolve, we handle knowledge in different ways. We tend to move through these stages:

- We are unaware.
- We become aware of facts, data, information.
- We comprehend meaning from the facts.
- We can personally apply the information in our lives.
- We have wisdom - enlightened, we can lovingly apply our knowledge to world affairs.
- We live in truth.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Mark Twain: The War Prayer

O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire;

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"The industrial way of life leads to the industrial way of death. From Shiloh to Dachau, from Antietam to Stalingrad, from Hiroshima to Vietnam and Afghanistan, the great specialty of industry and technology has been the mass production of human corpses." -Edward Abbey

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"If the bible is universally diffused in Hindustan, what must be the astonishment of the natives to find that we are forbidden to rob, murder and steal; we who in fifty years, have extended our empire...over the whole peninsula...and exemplified in our public conduct every crime of which human nature is capable. What matchless impudence to follow up such practice with such precepts! If we have common prudence, let us keep the gospel at home, and tell them that Machiavelli is our prophet, and the god of the Manicheans our god.": The Reverend Sydney Smith - (1771 - 1845)
 

Ocean Breeze

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From a new book re: Republicanisms........aka bushisms

Excerpt

BI-PARTISANSHIP, n. When conservative Republicans work together with moderate Republicans to pass legislation Democrats hate.

CLARIFY, v. Repeating the same lie over and over again.

CLEAN, adj. The word used to modify any aspect of the environment Republican legislation allows corporations to pollute, poison, or destroy.

FAIRER, adj. Regressive.

FAITH, n. The stubborn belief that God approves of Republican moral values despite the preponderance of textual evidence to the contrary.

FAITH COMMUNITY, n. Evangelicals, because they are saved, and hawkish conservative Jews, because they are useful. Israel is the bait-on-the-hook just waiting for God to take that Rapturous bite.

FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, n. A Republican who is in the minority.

FREEDOM, n. What Arabs want but can't achieve on their own without Western military intervention. It bears a striking resemblance to chaos.
 

Durgan

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jjw1965 said:
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
-Benjamin Franklin

I believe it.

This little fact seems to be lost on the law-makers in the USA and Canada, and probably other Western Nations.

Durgan
 

Ocean Breeze

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Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." : George Bernard Shaw

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When a whole nation is roaring patriotism at the top of its voice, I am fain to explore the cleanness of its hands and purity of its heart." : Ralph Waldo Emerson

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"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion." Thomas Jefferson, September 28, 1820
 

Ocean Breeze

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The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years.
These nations have progressed through this sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complaceny to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage.
Sir Alex Fraser Tyler: (1742-1813) Scottish jurist and historian


the clock is ticking......
 

Ocean Breeze

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Our men . . . have killed to exterminate men, women, children, prisoners and captives, active insurgents and suspected people from lads of 10 up.... Our soldiers have pumped salt water into men to "make them talk," and have taken prisoners people who held up their hands and peacefully surrendered, and an hour later. . . stood them on a bridge and shot them down one by one, to drop into the water below and float down, as examples to those who found their bullet-loaded corpses.": Philadelphia Ledger newspaper in 1901, from its Manila [Philippines] correspondent during the US war with Spain for the control of the Philippines

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"The only place you and I disagree . . . is with regard to the bombing. You're so goddamned concerned about the civilians, and I (in contrast) don't give a damn. I don't care.". . . "I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. . . Does that bother you? I just want you to think big." : Richard Nixon to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger on the Watergate tapes

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" ... the United States, for generations, has sustained two parallel but opposed states of mind about military atrocities and human rights: one of U.S. benevolence, generally held by the public, and the other of ends-justify-the-means brutality sponsored by counterinsurgency specialists. Normally the specialists carry out their actions in remote locations with little notice in the national press. That allows the public to sustain its faith in a just America, while hard-nosed security and economic interests are still protected in secret. ": Robert Parry, investigative reporter and author
 

Ocean Breeze

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"I am someone who is a uniter, not a divider. I don't believe in group thought, pitting one group of people against another."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Nov. 22, 1999

"The administration I'll bring is a group of men and women who are focused on what's best for America, honest men and women, decent men and women, women who will see service to our country as a great privilege and who will not stain the house."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Jan. 15, 2000

"By far, the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Feb. 15, 2000

"I'm not sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say 'this is the way it's got to be…' I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Oct. 3, 2000

"I want to be judicious as to how to use the military. It needs to be in our vital interest, the mission needs to be clear, and the exit strategy obvious."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Oct. 11, 2000

"I look forward to doing what is right to make the world more peaceful."
President George W. Bush
Jan. 20, 2001

"We must remember the high standards that come with high office. This begins [with] careful adherence to the rules. I expect every member of this administration to stay well within the boundaries that define legal and ethical conduct."
President George W. Bush
Jan. 22, 2001

"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war."
President George W. Bush
January 2002

"Fuck Saddam. We're taking him out."
President George W. Bush
March 2002

"Based on everything I've seen, I do not believe anyone could have prevented the horror of September the 11th."
President George W. Bush
June 2, 2002

"We need common sense judges who understand that our rights are derived from God. Those are the kind of judges I intend to put on the bench."
President George W. Bush
June 27, 2002

"I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now, watch this drive."
President George W. Bush
Aug. 4, 2002

"There's no telling how many wars it will take to secure freedom in the homeland."
President George W. Bush
Aug. 5, 2002

"The danger to our country is grave. The danger to our country is growing. The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons. The Iraqi regime is building the facilities necessary to make more biological and chemical weapons. And according to the British government, the Iraqi regime could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order were given."
President George W. Bush
Sept. 26, 2002

"Some worry that a change of leadership in Iraq could create instability and make the situation worse. The situation could hardly get worse, for world security and for the people of Iraq. ...America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
President George W. Bush
Oct. 7, 2002

"The Iraqi regime is a grave threat to the United States. The Iraqi regime is a threat to any American and to threats who are friends of America."
President George W. Bush
Jan. 3, 2003


the bloke was out of touch then.........and has only gotten worse since . Crime prone america must be so "proud".. :roll:
 

GL Schmitt

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"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.

"You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.

"The only difference is that there is no cat."




Albert Einstein, describing Radio.
 

Twila

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"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic." I don't know who said it but they're brilliant!!
 

Ocean Breeze

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"Ah yes, truth. Funny how everyone is always asking for it but when they get it they don't believe it because it's not the truth they want to hear.": Helena Cassadine

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Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there, and to be guided by truth as one sees it. But no one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of truth: Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi

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Without seeking, truth cannot be known at all. It can neither be declared from pulpits, nor set down in articles, nor in any wise prepared and sold in packages ready for use. Truth must be ground for every man by itself out of it such, with such help as he can get, indeed, but not without stern labor of his own: John Ruskin

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The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear: Herbert Sebastien Agar
 

GL Schmitt

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The more laws and order are made prominent,
The more thieves and robbers there will be.


He who loves the world as his body may be entrusted with the empire.


When armies are mobilized and issues are joined,
The man who is sorry over the fact will win.

Lao-tzu from The Way of Lao-tzu