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Twin_Moose

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Can't answer the question? Didn't think so.

Socialist pussy.
Didn't read up on your countries banana republic moniker yet huh? If your looking for links I'm sure even google can provide you with a list of MAGA Nazi terrorists and how they all should be in jail. It should embarrass you to have it pointed out by a Canadian, at least we know we have a problem, on the most part we are proud to be Honk, Honk domestic terrorist supporters in the west. The East of the country is starting to wake up to Mr. Dressup.
 
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Florida school board recommends ouster of Moms for Liberty co-founder over Republican sex scandal
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Curt Anderson
Published Dec 12, 2023 • 4 minute read
FILE - Bridget Ziegler speaks at the Moms for Liberty meeting in Philadelphia, July 1, 2023. A Florida school board is scheduled to consider whether to seek the resignation of a co-founder of the conservative Moms for Liberty group, who is embroiled in the fallout of a sexual assault investigation into her husband, the Republican Party state chairman. The Sarasota County School Board cannot oust Ziegler outright from the panel but was set to vote Tuesday, Dec. 12 on a resolution requesting that she step down.
FILE - Bridget Ziegler speaks at the Moms for Liberty meeting in Philadelphia, July 1, 2023. A Florida school board is scheduled to consider whether to seek the resignation of a co-founder of the conservative Moms for Liberty group, who is embroiled in the fallout of a sexual assault investigation into her husband, the Republican Party state chairman. The Sarasota County School Board cannot oust Ziegler outright from the panel but was set to vote Tuesday, Dec. 12 on a resolution requesting that she step down. PHOTO BY MATT ROURKE /THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
SARASOTA, Fla. (AP) — A Florida school board voted on Tuesday to recommend the resignation of one of its members because she is embroiled in the fallout of a sexual assault investigation into her husband, the Republican Party state chairman.


The Sarasota County School Board cannot directly remove Bridget Ziegler from the panel but voted 4-1 Tuesday for a resolution requesting that she step down. The resolution was authored by board Chair Karen Rose, who said in an email that she is “shocked and deeply saddened” by the rape allegations involving Ziegler’s husband, Christian Ziegler, and the couple’s admissions about having a three-way sexual encounter previously with the accuser.


“I personally care about Bridget and her family and deeply regret the necessity for this course of action, but given the intense media scrutiny locally and nationally, her continued presence on the Board would cause irreparably harmful distractions to our critical mission,” Rose wrote.


Bridget Ziegler is co-founder of the conservative Moms for Liberty group. She has served on the board since 2014, when she was appointed by then-Gov. Rick Scott, and has previously been its chair. She voted against the resolution, saying she was “disappointed” but gave no indication she would step down. She remained on the board’s dais after the vote.

Prior to the meeting, several dozen people marched outside carrying signs and chanting, “Hey hey, ho ho, Bridget Ziegler has got to go.” Among the signs’ slogans were “Ban Bridget, not books” and “Real women aren’t homophobes.”

“Bridget Ziegler must apologize and resign,” said Carol Lerner of Support Our Schools, a nonprofit group that supports public education. “The Zieglers are through and through grifters.”


Board member Tim Enos said it’s up to Bridget Ziegler to decide whether to quit. Only Florida’s governor can remove a school board member, and only under certain conditions, such as a criminal charge.

“If she continues and doesn’t resign and stays, we have an obligation that we all need to be focused on education,” Enos said. “The politics have to get outside the boardroom. It should be only about the kids.”

The Sarasota Police Department is investigating a woman’s accusation that Christian Ziegler raped her at her apartment in October. Police documents say the Zieglers and the woman had planned a sexual threesome that day, but Bridget Ziegler was unable to make it. The accuser says Christian Ziegler arrived anyway and assaulted her, according to the documents.


Christian Ziegler has not been charged with any crime and maintains his innocence, contending the encounter was consensual. Scott, now a U.S. senator, Gov. Ron DeSantis and other Florida Republicans have called on him to step down as GOP chair, but he has refused to do so.

In a recent message to Florida Republicans, Christian Ziegler said he would remain as chair “because we have a country to save and I am not going to let false allegations of a crime put that mission on the bench as I wait for this process to wrap up.”

Christian Ziegler’s lawyer, Derek Byrd, said in an email Monday that he is “hoping (the) investigation is closed soon.” A Sarasota Police Department spokesperson said there is no timetable for the probe to conclude.



Bridget Ziegler has long been active in conservative politics. She was a champion of the DeSantis-backed law known by critics as “Don’t Say Gay,” which restricts teaching of sexual and gender material in early school grades. Moms for Liberty, which she co-founded in 2021, aims to inject more conservative viewpoints into schools, restrict transgender rights, battle pandemic mask mandates and remove books the group objects to from school classrooms and libraries.


In addition, DeSantis appointed Bridget Ziegler to the new Central Florida Tourism Oversight District that oversees Walt Disney World’s operations. That panel — which replaced one controlled by Disney — was created by the Legislature at DeSantis’ request after Disney objected to the “Don’t Say Gay” law. The board currently is the subject of state and federal lawsuits over control of the huge theme park outside Orlando.

Democrats and other critics say the Zieglers are hypocritical because the alleged sexual activities are completely at odds with the conservative views they push on others, particularly LGBTQ people.

“The Zieglers have made a habit out of attacking anything they perceive as going against ‘family values,’ be it reproductive rights or the existence of LGBTQ+ Floridians,” state Democratic Party Chair Nikki Fried said in a statement. “The level of hypocrisy in this situation is stunning.”

The state GOP has called a meeting for Sunday in Orlando to discuss Christian Ziegler’s future as party chair.
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Yes, I laugh, because it's pretty much BS.

Unedited videos? You mean the ones the Republicans want to 'blur out to protect people' (illegal, btw).


Changing testimonies from the J6 committee... and that would be... what?

As to 1512(c)(2) - LOL.

Yes, it'll be interesting to see if all presidents can now break the law and be immune from accountability or not.
Since you apparently missed it yesterday


NEW 🚨 Supreme Court to hear an appeal that could overturn Capitol riot charges against hundreds of individuals, including Trump
 
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Some of the charges. The large majority of them pled to, or were convicted of, multiple charges. Kicking one out may call for a re-sentencing, but it will get few if any of them off the hook.
 

Twin_Moose

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Some of the charges. The large majority of them pled to, or were convicted of, multiple charges. Kicking one out may call for a re-sentencing, but it will get few if any of them off the hook.
I understand that is why they are claiming 300+ not thousands that were convicted and 2 of the 4 charges against Trump
 

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Board boots threeway-sex-loving Moms for Liberty co-founder

Author of the article:Brad Hunter
Published Dec 13, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read
VOTE FOR ME! Moms For Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler and her hubby are embroiled in a three-way sex scandal. FACEBOOK
VOTE FOR ME! Moms For Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler and her hubby are embroiled in a three-way sex scandal. PHOTO BY BRIDGET ZIEGLER /FACEBOOK
Republican firebrand and Moms for Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler, best known for her raunchy three-way sex antics, is being shown the door by a Florida school board.


But the Sarasota County School Board claims Ziegler’s same-sex after-school specials had nothing to do with the decision.


The move comes on the heels of her high-flying GOP hubby Christian being investigated by cops for the alleged rape of the couple’s playmate. He has not been charged.


Board members voted 4-1 to give Ziegler the boot. Hers was the lone dissenting vote.

“I am not here to characterize the sexual proclivities of Mrs. Ziegler. Having sex with another woman in a threesome with her husband is not the issue,” resident Rudolph Lucek told the hearing.

“But when you claim the moral high ground and then you attack the moral integrity of others, the blatant hypocrisy of Mrs. Ziegler and how it reflects on the credibility of this board is a significant concern to this community.”


THE HYPOCRATIC OATH: School board votes for Ziegler to step down. SCREENGRAB
THE HYPOCRATIC OATH: School board votes for Ziegler to step down. SCREENGRAB
The woman who went to cops told detectives that she was in a three-way sexual relationship with the couple.

For her part, Ziegler called the vote “disappointing” but gave no hint she was going to leave. Only Governor Ron DeSantis – a political ally – can remove the fun-loving blond.



Ironically, Ziegler was one of the main antagonists in DeSantis’s “Don’t Say Gay” Bill. The governor and likely 2024 presidential contender has called for her husband to step down as the Sunshine State’s GOP chair until the probe is concluded.


Board chair Karen Rose said the mom of three’s continued presence would create “an irreparably harmful distraction to the school board’s ability to fulfil its critical, constitutional mission of operating.”


Many parents at the meeting said they weren’t bothered by Ziegler’s sexual predilections but by her hypocrisy as a high-profile cultural warrior.

One mom asked: “How many parents delighted this week in having to answer the question from their children, ‘What is a three-way?'”

Meanwhile, Sarasota Police detectives are investigating the lurid allegations against Christian Ziegler. The woman claims the ambitious politician raped her at her apartment in October.

Cops say the Zieglers and the woman had slated a three-way hook-up that day but Bridget was unable to attend.


VOTE FOR THREESOMES: Moms for Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler. FACEBOOK
VOTE FOR THREESOMES: Moms for Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler. FACEBOOK
Bridget Ziegler is a co-founder of the ultra-conservative parental rights group Moms for Liberty. The organization has distanced itself from the flirty Floridian and claims she left in 2021.

However, her conservative mentor DeSantis remains in her corner. He appointed her to the new Central Florida Tourism Oversight District overseeing Walt Disney World’s operations. Disney and DeSantis have been engaged in a cultural war after the House of Mouse objected to “Don’t Say Gay.”

There have also been calls for Ziegler to walk away from the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District.

She has apparently already stepped aside from the right-wing Leadership Institute. Her profile on their website has now been removed.

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Florida Republican Party suspends chairman and demands his resignation amid rape investigation
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Brendan Farrington
Published Dec 17, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — The Republican Party of Florida suspended Chairman Christian Ziegler and demanded his resignation during an emergency meeting Sunday, adding to calls by Gov. Ron DeSantis and other top officials for him to step down as police investigate a rape accusation against him.


Ziegler is accused of raping a woman with whom he and his wife, Moms for Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler, had a prior consensual sexual relationship, according to police records.


“Christian Ziegler has engaged in conduct that renders him unfit for the office,” the party’s motion to censure Ziegler said, according to a document posted on the social media platform X by Lee County GOP Chairman Michael Thomason.

Ziegler tried to defend himself during the closed-door meeting, but the party board quickly took the action against him, Thompson said.

“Ziegler on soap box trying to defend himself, not working,” Thompson posted before confirming the votes.

The party’s executive committee will hold another vote in the future on whether to remove Ziegler.


The Sarasota Police Department is investigating the woman’s accusation that Ziegler raped her at her apartment in October. Police documents say the Zieglers and the woman had planned a sexual threesome that day, but Bridget Ziegler was unable to make it. The accuser says Christian Ziegler arrived anyway and assaulted her.

Christian Ziegler has not been charged with a crime and says he is innocent, contending the encounter was consensual.

The accusation also has caused turmoil for Bridget Ziegler, an elected member of the Sarasota School Board, though she is not accused of any crime. On Tuesday the board voted to ask her to resign. She refused.

The couple have been outspoken opponents of LGBTQ+ rights, and their relationship with another woman has sparked criticism and accusations of hypocrisy.

In addition to DeSantis, Republican Sens. Rick Scott and Marco Rubio, U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz and Florida’s Republican House and Senate leaders have all called for Christian Ziegler’s resignation.
 

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I was farting around on YouTube, trying to warm up, and waiting for my supper to warm up in the microwave…& I stumbled across some guy on YouTube.

Turns out he’s a politician, in some kind of public scrum, and it started out really hostile towards him…& by the end, the person that was cutting him off was high-fiving him within about nine minutes. Some person (woman?) was trying to yell over top of him about LGBTQ,etc…stuff…& he tried to just give her the mic, but she wouldn’t take it. Said she didn’t need it.

So he (Ramaswamy) told her (probably her?) to go ahead and ask her questions, and he would allow her to finish, as long as she would do the same for him

I don’t have a dog in the hunt with respect to the American election, but in one short video, this guy impressed me. I actually had to Google & pull up a Wiki to see if he was a Democrat or a Republican or an independent. Honestly, didn’t know.

Turns out he’s identifying as a Republican at this point. Vivek Ramaswamy. I don’t know anything about his platform, but in that one short video, I was impressed.
I’m assuming he probably doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell, and maybe that’s a real shame.

Anyway, all I know about him is this one video but…. He might be worth a Google folks.
 
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Here’s a CCN clip of a CCN host interviewing him on her show:
It’s hard to hear anything because he keeps getting interrupted…but just watch the reaction of the audience over the course of the video.
 
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I was farting around on YouTube, trying to warm up, and waiting for my supper to warm up in the microwave…& I stumbled across some guy on YouTube.

Turns out he’s a politician, in some kind of public scrum, and it started out really hostile towards him…& by the end, the person that was cutting him off was high-fiving him within about nine minutes. Some person (woman?) was trying to yell over top of him about LGBTQ,etc…stuff…& he tried to just give her the mic, but she wouldn’t take it. Said she didn’t need it.

So he (Ramaswamy) told her (probably her?) to go ahead and ask her questions, and he would allow her to finish, as long as she would do the same for him

I don’t have a dog in the hunt with respect to the American election, but in one short video, this guy impressed me. I actually had to Google & pull up a Wiki to see if he was a Democrat or a Republican or an independent. Honestly, didn’t know.

Turns out he’s identifying as a Republican at this point. Vivek Ramaswamy. I don’t know anything about his platform, but in that one short video, I was impressed.
I’m assuming he probably doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell, and maybe that’s a real shame.

Anyway, all I know about him is this one video but…. He might be worth a Google folks.
He is impressing many people and is looking as a possible , probable running mate for the great orange terror .
 
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Chris Christie says he’s dropping out of Republican presidential race
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Steve Peoples, Jill Colvin And Holly Ramer
Published Jan 10, 2024 • 5 minute read

WINDHAM, N.H. — Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Wednesday that he’s ending his Republican presidential bid just days before Iowa’s leadoff caucuses in a last-ditch effort to deny Donald Trump a glidepath to the nomination.


“My goal has never been to be just a voice against the hate and division and the selfishness of what our party has become under Donald Trump,” Christie said at a town hall in New Hampshire.


“I’ve always said that if there came a point in time in this race where I couldn’t see a path to accomplishing that goal, that I would get out,” he said. “And it’s clear to be tonight that there isn’t a path for me to win the nomination, which is why I’m suspending my campaign tonight for president of the United States.”

It wasn’t clear whether Christie would be immediately endorsing one of his rivals, but he was overheard criticizing Haley on a livestream set up by his campaign ahead of the event. “She’s going to get smoked,” he said. “She’s not up to this.” He said DeSantis called him, petrified he would endorse Haley, but the hot mic was cut before Christie finished speaking.


The dropout comes as a surprise, given that Christie had staked the success of his campaign on New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation primary, which is less than two weeks away. He had insisted as recently as Tuesday night that he had no plans to leave the race, continuing to cast himself as the only candidate willing to directly take on the former president.

“I would be happy to get out of the way for someone who is actually running against Donald Trump,” he said at a town hall in Rochester, New Hampshire, while arguing that none of his rivals had stepped up to the plate.

“I’m famous enough. … I’ve got plenty of titles. … The only reason to do this is to win,” he added. “So I’d be happy to get out of the way for somebody if they actually were going against Donald Trump.”


But Christie faced a stark reality: While recent polls showed him reaching the double digits in New Hampshire, Haley shows signs of momentum. A CNN/UNH poll conducted in the state this week found Trump’s lead down to the single digits, with 4 in 10 likely Republican primary voters choosing Trump and about one-third now choosing Haley.

Allies of Haley, including New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu and other anti-Trump Republicans, had been urging Christie to exit, hoping a large portion of his supporters would flock to Haley, giving her a chance to turn the race into a two-candidate contest with Trump, the overwhelming favorite for the nomination.

The New Hampshire poll — which showed Christie at 12% — found about two-thirds of his supporters would select Haley as their second choice.


Christie had run as the race’s fiercest critic of the former president-turned-GOP front-runner. He warned voters against nominating a candidate who has been criminally indicted four times and could very well be a convicted felon by the November general election. And he argued Trump will lose in a rematch with President Joe Biden, the likely Democratic nominee.

While his anti-Trump message attracted much media attention and helped bring in waves of small-dollar donations that kept him in the race — and on the debate stage — far longer than many expected, Christie was plagued by high unfavorability ratings in a party that remains deeply loyal to Trump.

He also remained mired in the single digits in national polling.


Nonetheless, Christie managed to outlast far better-known and better-funded candidates, including former Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, in part because he ran a frugal campaign. Instead of flying by private jet and hiring a litany of expensive consultants, he relied on a tight-knit staff of just over a dozen people and had a far lower “burn rate” than rivals like DeSantis, spending far less per day.

And just as he did when he ran in 2016, Christie banked his campaign on New Hampshire, believing his brash “tell it like it is” style would resonate with the state’s more independent-leaning voters, including those who are unaffiliated with a party and can vote in the Republican primary.


He also campaigned in South Carolina and hoped to emerge as the last man standing against Trump after the early state contests.

Christie had long insisted that he had no plans to leave the race before New Hampshire’s primary on Jan. 23 and appeared on track to perform better than he had in 2016, when he finished in sixth with just 7% of the vote.

At the town hall Tuesday, he delivered a sharply worded rebuttal to those calling on him to drop out to clear the path for Haley, arguing that she wasn’t even trying to beat the front-runner.

“I have no interest in being a spoiler for someone who wants to beat Donald Trump,” he said. “But if you’d be willing to be his vice president, if you’d pardon him if you became president, if you’d vote for him even if he’s a convicted felon … I mean, geez, really?”


Christie asked the crowd to imagine what would happen if he dropped out to support Haley and then she agreed to serve as Trump’s running mate.

“What will I look like? What will all the people who supported her at my behest look like?” he asked. “You know, I made that mistake once, eight years ago. I made an endorsement decision based on politics eight years ago when I supported Trump. I’m not going to make the same mistake again. Can’t do it.”

The campaign, in many ways, felt like a mission of redemption for the former governor, who arguably did more than any other Republican to help Trump win the presidency when they faced each other in 2016.

During that contest, Christie delivered a fatal blow to Marco Rubio, another 2016 presidential rival, during a debate that came just as the GOP establishment appeared to be coalescing around the senator from Florida as a Trump alternative. No other candidate ever emerged in his place.


Then, after Christie dropped out, he became the first major GOP figure to endorse Trump during a surprise press conference. He went on to lead Trump’s White House transition operation — before he was unceremoniously fired — and to serve as an on-again-off-again adviser, including preparing Trump for the debates.

It was during one of their 2020 debate prep sessions that Christie believes Trump gave him COVID-19, putting Christie in the hospital in intensive care.

But it wasn’t until the night of the 2020 election that Christie, who had been friends with Trump and his wife for 20 years, broke with the then-president after Trump falsely claimed victory long before all the votes had been counted. Christie later penned a book that was deeply critical of the former president.

Beyond his focus on Trump, Christie had argued that abortion restrictions should be left to the states until there is broader consensus on the issue, and he had advocated for continued U.S. support for Ukraine in its efforts to stave off Russia’s invasion. He visited both Ukraine and Israel, where he toured a kibbutz that was ravaged in the Oct. 7 rampage by Hamas militants and said the U.S. must stand “shoulder to shoulder” with Israel.