Quebec Sucks

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If so, then why is it bad? However I thought the rooster was that symbol?

It's bad because people don't like to be referred to anything lower than the level of humans. You get the feeling that you're inferior when you are called something like that. Most people don't make the connection that a frog used to be the symbol of French royalty or whatever.

I think when person A calls person B an XYZ, then person B automatically makes a comparison with XYZ and him/herself based on the cultural views on XYZ. If it is deemed that XYZ is lower/inferior/contrary to what they current think of themselves, the comment that person A made will come across as negative.

That's why, in NA at least, people don't like to be to be called a dog, a chicken, a rat, a snake, a cow, a roach... I could go on... easy.

But, evidently, if you call someone a god...

 

[Jay]

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It isn't bad....The worst they can pin on the French is they didn't want to fight WW2, and they know they are better than everyone else. :wink:

The French have the Bluest Blood also, this might have lead to some jealousy and since frogs are swamp creatures, it all just fit together. :wink: again

The rooster is a newer symbol....
Rooster link:
http://www.info-france-usa.org/atoz/rooster.asp

To me, French pride is really no worse than American pride. The French have a lot to be proud of; I see nothing wrong with that. I think the problem with many English people is that they don't get the French; their culture, the mannerisms and what not.

Really everything you say about the French could be said about the British too.

As for not fighting in WWII, well I don't recall many of the early countries taken over putting up much resistance either.

The English are still pissed we Normans took England away from them in 1066 (or so).

If the English have the Bluest Blood, it's only from their Norman Kings. :wink:

I'm kidding...maybe.

 

[Jay]

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On a similar funny note, if you go to the grocery and buy a can of Habitant pea soup read the label. In french it's "Soupe aux pois" (simply "Pea soup") but the english version is "French Canadian Pea Soup" wich is also another term the british used when talking about the quebecois...

That is funny...I didn't know that.

 

[krayzy-kutie]

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Ok lets get to the point. Quebec seriously has like no supporter except for thoes living in quebec or thoes with family in quebec. If we really think hard has Quebec really doen anyhting to help the rest of canada? Has canada doen anything to help quebec? Think about that for a while, And i have a question for you guys Do we NEED qubec or do they NEED us? :!:

 

[Nosferax]

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Ok lets get to the point. Quebec seriously has like no supporter except for thoes living in quebec or thoes with family in quebec. If we really think hard has Quebec really doen anyhting to help the rest of canada? Has canada doen anything to help quebec? Think about that for a while, And i have a question for you guys Do we NEED qubec or do they NEED us? :!:

I don't know if Canada or Quebec need each other, nut you sure need a new keyboard... Or some form of typing lesson :lol:

Well, we did beat the american at the battle of Chateauguay (Les Voltigeurs regiment). We also gave you some of the best prime minister, and also quite a few of the bad one... And think about it, without us, you wouldn't have had to rapatriate the constitution... :lol:

 

[jackd]

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krayzy-kutie: At last, you're someone bringing back some common sense to this discussion.
IMO, Canada has been beneficial to Quebec and Quebec has been beneficial to Canada. It goes both ways.
However, Canada and Quebec are at a stage in their life similar to the members of an old couple who have lived together for a long time, have enjoyed each other for what each individual received and gave to the other, but are now at a stage where minds, goals and aspiration are no more in sink with each other.
The issue has been discussed, debated and fought over by politicians over the last half century counselors have been brought by both sides to try and mitigate, compromise and fix the differences to no avail.
In real life, this would be high time for a divorce don't you think?
It does not mean one or the other is totally white while the other one is pitch black. Irreconcilable difference.... You heard the term before?
When separation happens, both sides will miss the other side and may have some regrets, but life goes on nevertheless.

 

[krayzy-kutie]

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..However, Canada and Quebec are at a stage in its life similar to the members of an old couple who have lived together for a long time, have enjoyed each other for what each individual received and gave to the other, but are now at a stage where minds, goals and aspiration are no more in sink with each other.
The issue has been discussed, debated and fought over by politicians over the last half century counselors have been brought by both sides to try and mitigate, compromise and fix the differences to no avail.
In real life, this would be high time for a divorce don't you think?

Its almost like it is a couple..but a couple who has kids lol they cant go leaving one day cuz they think to themselves " hey i feel like leavin cuz i dont wanna be part of something thats helped me in many ways and had help from me" I feel like they are trying to say their better than the rest of us and i hate it, but really they do make some sense soo....i guess what im trying to say is I dont agree with what they want to do but I cant really dissagree because I really dont have much to do with it, im not from Quebec and really i could care less what they decide to do but in reality it will affect everyone in a way.

 

[PHANTOMPHOENIX]

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Canada just stays together because of fear of being consumed by the US.

You better be careful though, Quebec might sell us out and tell the US the only thing we have to defend ourselves with are nerf guns.

 

[I think not]

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Canada just stays together because of fear of being consumed by the US.

You better be careful though, Quebec might sell us out and tell the US the only thing we have to defend ourselves with are nerf guns.

:roll:

 

[krayzy-kutie]

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lol nerf guns ...well i guess its true, but they dont even have nerf guns . : )

 

[Reivilo]

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Je comprends presque tout de l'anglais écrit mais j'écris très mal en anglais, du moins, mais ceux qui sont Québécois me comprendront... Le monde ici sont vraiment nuls, sans âme, ils savent même pas qui nous sommes, qu'ils restent dans leur province inutile. Quand les gens disent que le Québec n'aura pas de ressource à vendre, si les Anglais avaient plus d'éducation, ils sauraient qu'on produit beaucoup d'hydro-électricité, LG, Manic, Outardes etc.. et qu'on va encore explorer de nouvelles zones en haut et en bas de la baie James et ça sera assez payant étant donné que les Américans en achètent une bonne partie à bon prix.. Bref, je ne pensais pas que les Canadiens-Anglais étaient aussi stupides que ça! Vive la séparation Québécoise alors!

 

[Vinnie Cappuccino]

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Yeah, Quebec gets a lot of money out of selling electricity to America. It's too bad that Labrador doesn't get more money out of that deal, they really should.

 

[krayzy-kutie]

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Je comprends presque tout de l'anglais écrit mais j'écris très mal en anglais, du moins, mais ceux qui sont Québécois me comprendront... Le monde ici sont vraiment nuls, sans âme, ils savent même pas qui nous sommes, qu'ils restent dans leur province inutile. Quand les gens disent que le Québec n'aura pas de ressource à vendre, si les Anglais avaient plus d'éducation, ils sauraient qu'on produit beaucoup d'hydro-électricité, LG, Manic, Outardes etc.. et qu'on va encore explorer de nouvelles zones en haut et en bas de la baie James et ça sera assez payant étant donné que les Américans en achètent une bonne partie à bon prix.. Bref, je ne pensais pas que les Canadiens-Anglais étaient aussi stupides que ça! Vive la séparation Québécoise alors!

8O could someone please translate this for me :?:

 

[missile]

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It's just the usual separatist drivel,it only looks better in French :lol:

 

[DasFX]

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Je comprends presque tout de l'anglais écrit mais j'écris très mal en anglais, du moins, mais ceux qui sont Québécois me comprendront... Le monde ici sont vraiment nuls, sans âme, ils savent même pas qui nous sommes, qu'ils restent dans leur province inutile. Quand les gens disent que le Québec n'aura pas de ressource à vendre, si les Anglais avaient plus d'éducation, ils sauraient qu'on produit beaucoup d'hydro-électricité, LG, Manic, Outardes etc.. et qu'on va encore explorer de nouvelles zones en haut et en bas de la baie James et ça sera assez payant étant donné que les Américans en achètent une bonne partie à bon prix.. Bref, je ne pensais pas que les Canadiens-Anglais étaient aussi stupides que ça! Vive la séparation Québécoise alors!

8O could someone please translate this for me :?:

C'mon, it isn't written in that complex of French. Surely your high school language skills can give you the jest of it. Also, if you really want to know what it says, why don't you make the effort to translate it yourself.

 

[Vinnie Cappuccino]

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Dictionary.com has a translator feature, but french translated literaly to english doesn't work well, but you will get the Gist.

I include/understand almost all written English but I write very badly in English, at least, but those which are inhabitant of Quebec will include/understand me... The world here are really null, without heart, they do not even know which we are, that they remain in their useless province. When people say that Quebec will not have a resource to sell, if the English had more education, they would know that one produces much hydro-electricity, LG, Manic, Outardes etc. and that one still will explore new zones in top and in bottom of the James bay and that will be rather paying since Américans buy of it a good part at handsome price. In short, I did not think who the Canadian-English were as stupid as that! Live Québécoise separation then!

 

[Numure]

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Yeah, Quebec gets a lot of money out of selling electricity to America. It's too bad that Labrador doesn't get more money out of that deal, they really should.

Theirs only a few in Labrador, and their contribution to our total output of electricity is minimal.

 

[Machjo]

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Je comprends presque tout de l'anglais écrit mais j'écris très mal en anglais, du moins, mais ceux qui sont Québécois me comprendront... Le monde ici sont vraiment nuls, sans âme, ils savent même pas qui nous sommes, qu'ils restent dans leur province inutile. Quand les gens disent que le Québec n'aura pas de ressource à vendre, si les Anglais avaient plus d'éducation, ils sauraient qu'on produit beaucoup d'hydro-électricité, LG, Manic, Outardes etc.. et qu'on va encore explorer de nouvelles zones en haut et en bas de la baie James et ça sera assez payant étant donné que les Américans en achètent une bonne partie à bon prix.. Bref, je ne pensais pas que les Canadiens-Anglais étaient aussi stupides que ça! Vive la séparation Québécoise alors!

Dear Reivilo;

I'll type in English so others understand. It's interesting that you should have mentionned that, while you can understand written English, you can't type it (i.e., passive knowledge). I'd lived in various parts of Quebec myself, and had found the same practically everywhere except the largest cities, despite the fact that most Canadians wouldn't believe me, thinking English is just such an easy language to learn.

I think this is also a major problem in its own right. Most French speakers from my experience in Quebec don't possess a decent command of English, and most English speakers in Canada don't possess a decent command of French. Same both ways. So how are we supposed to undertand one another as a nation if we can't even communicate with one another?

Then the issue is do we try to improve the education system on both sides? We're already spending large amounts there, and we have still failed to learn one anothers' languages. Or does it matter that we can't communicate with one another (i.e., the francophones just stay in their area, and the anglophones in theirs, and stop teaching the second language except to those who are interested, so as to save money)?

But if that's the case, as it is now, then we're effectively two de facto nations already, except for those of us, like myself, who are bilingual in both French and English (and that's not because of any great intelligence on my part, but rather the simple fact that I was born into a bilingual francophone-anglophone family). Needless to say, it's pretty difficult to convince a monolingual Quebecois to stay with Canada politically, when that really has no advantage for him whatsoever. After all, common citizenship or not, it's not like a monolingual francophone can find a job in English Canada anyway, nor can a monolingual anglophone find a job in French Canada. So from that standpoint, a monolingual francophone would just see the political separation of Quebec to be an acknowledgement of an already de facto reality for any monolingual francophone-anglophone Canadian.

Just how I would see things. I could be wrong here, but would beinterested in reading your perspective. And please feel free to post in French; I can read it.

Any ideas on how to bridge the language gap when so few on both sides truly successfully master the otehr's language.

 

[Cathou]

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Dictionary.com has a translator feature, but french translated literaly to english doesn't work well, but you will get the Gist.

I understand almost all written English language but I write very badly in English, at least, but those which are inhabitant of Quebec will understand me... People here are really dumb, without soul, they do not even know who we are, they should remain in their useless province. When people say that Quebec dont have resources to sell, if English peoples had more education, they would know we produces much hydro-electricity, LG, Manic, Outardes etc. and we will explore new zones in top and in bottom of the James bay and that it will be a good deal since Americans buy a good part of it at handsome price. In short, I wasnt thinking that the Canadian-English were as stupid as that! Long live the Québécoise separation then!

sorry vinnie, i had to correct your translation :wink:

Reivilo : ne soit pas trop dur. oui certain sont bornés mais en majorité ce sont des gens ouverts et très gentils.

 

[Reivilo]

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Qu'allez-vous voter pour le référendum en 2008?