Purpose Of Life
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I wasn't quite sure what you were trying to say about good and evil in response to my post. In fact, I am still not sure what your reply meant.
I of course meant that our conception of good and evil are only real in the human experience and have no genuine existence outside of that.
"your mistake? thinking I want to rescue you from a loveless world"
I supose that "your mistake" thinking "I" want......(quotations added for emphasis) isn't personal at all....
Like I said.....nice talking with you.....
And by the way.....
Given your fancy dance around objectivity and subjectivity....
Not an absolute by any means but for the vast majority of living beings....animals....the instinct to protect their young is the foundation of love....
We don't really need to "learn" love we have the capacity to feel love....to feel a responsibility and a duty to each other whether it arises biologically and genetically or not....the expression of that duty care and effort is the essence of love. All that's needed is to turn-down-the-volume on smart-assed-insecurity and fear and embrace the impulse.
So please go on with whatever it is that's more important than talking about understanding life....maybe there's a hockey game on....
I supose that "your mistake" thinking "I" want......(quotations added for emphasis) isn't personal at all....
Like I said.....nice talking with you.....
And by the way.....
Given your fancy dance around objectivity and subjectivity....
Not an absolute by any means but for the vast majority of living beings....animals....the instinct to protect their young is the foundation of love....
We don't really need to "learn" love we have the capacity to feel love....to feel a responsibility and a duty to each other whether it arises biologically and genetically or not....the expression of that duty care and effort is the essence of love. All that's needed is to turn-down-the-volume on smart-assed-insecurity and fear and embrace the impulse.
So please go on with whatever it is that's more important than talking about understanding life....maybe there's a hockey game on....
I said good and evil are existentially metaphysical equals. That has nothing to do with orders of magnitude.
by the same token, if a tree falls in the forest...
Pardon me all to hell if I refuse to jump onto your page. If you want to argue about whether love is real or not you can do it without me.
I would say the causes are simple and apparent so simple most people overlook them when discussing this issue , there are only two causes :
a) The idea that life has a purpose beyond existing and the biological goals of reproduction to maintain the species .
b) That said purpose is universal to all people regardless of their origins , goals , situation and ability .
That's what I figured. You don't strike me as the "evil is the absence of good" type.
Haha, that reminds me of a mathematical peculiarity that comes from topology. Where because of a the definition of open and closed sets, you can have sets which are both open and closed... you should be able to do something similar with evil defined that way.
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Originally Posted by Niflmir
Who said that originally? I only ever came across it on a Tool song.
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Originally Posted by Unforgiven
If I'm not mistaken Timothy Leary.
DocDred:And he got it from Buddha ....Got Buddha in a bit of hot water with the powers to be at the time....Him being a prince and all IMHO gave Him the wieght to come out and say stuff like that at the time....
Originally Posted by Niflmir
Who said that originally? I only ever came across it on a Tool song.
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Originally Posted by Unforgiven
If I'm not mistaken Timothy Leary.
DocDred:And he got it from Buddha ....Got Buddha in a bit of hot water with the powers to be at the time....Him being a prince and all IMHO gave Him the wieght to come out and say stuff like that at the time....
On good and evil:
I think these concepts are completly lost when talking about nature.You see some lion eating a live baby zebra and stand back with the detatchment it deserves. If not , your labeled immature to the facts of life.
Ultimatly both play a major role in human nature.Religions are made from them and it's really easy to put yourself on a podium and create the all powerful Good God and the super Evil Devil....
the thing that got me into hot water in Catholic high School religion class was the refusal of the priest to admit if god created everything then he created evil..i hounded him like the true forum person i really am LOL!!!!.
Oddly the muslims admit that...
so anyway from the mundane good and evil are human concepts , until we get their definition right in regards to their place in human society, we will continue to have our leaders make law in front of their god.....
We need a shift to common sense and leave all the poetry alone....
I think these concepts are completly lost when talking about nature.You see some lion eating a live baby zebra and stand back with the detatchment it deserves. If not , your labeled immature to the facts of life.
Ultimatly both play a major role in human nature.Religions are made from them and it's really easy to put yourself on a podium and create the all powerful Good God and the super Evil Devil....
the thing that got me into hot water in Catholic high School religion class was the refusal of the priest to admit if god created everything then he created evil..i hounded him like the true forum person i really am LOL!!!!.
Oddly the muslims admit that...
so anyway from the mundane good and evil are human concepts , until we get their definition right in regards to their place in human society, we will continue to have our leaders make law in front of their god.....
We need a shift to common sense and leave all the poetry alone....
Contrer my good fellow! There is a purpose in life, and that is not to serve self!
The greatest thing in life is to serve others.
Blessing is in the giving, not in the receiving.
Peace>>>AJ