Pro-rape ‘pick up artist’ group to meet in Victoria plus...

[damngrumpy]

I have daughters, grand daughters and a couple of great grand daughters so I'm a little
one sided here This guy should be jailed for even advocating in favor of a criminal act.
No means NO and should remain that way. People have to be more responsible and
think before they act. The guy must be guilty of something

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I have daughters, grand daughters and a couple of great grand daughters so I'm a little
one sided here This guy should be jailed for even advocating in favor of a criminal act.
No means NO and should remain that way. People have to be more responsible and
think before they act. The guy must be guilty of something

And Yes means No if she has been drinking?

 

[JLM]

I have daughters, grand daughters and a couple of great grand daughters so I'm a little
one sided here This guy should be jailed for even advocating in favor of a criminal act.
No means NO and should remain that way. People have to be more responsible and
think before they act. The guy must be guilty of something

Of being an A$$hole for sure.

 

[gerryh]

And Yes means No if she has been drinking?

That's right. If you need to get a woman drunk to get laid, then you don't deserve to get laid.

 

[Curious Cdn]

That's right. If you need to get a woman drunk to get laid, then you don't deserve to get laid.

Tell that to Cosby.

 

[Ludlow]

Robin Williams said that he liked his women like his wine, passed out. How you ended up with anyone is beyond me. Must have been one of those arranged fookin thangs.

 

[Twila]

Robin Williams said that he liked his women like his wine, passed out. How you ended up with anyone is beyond me. Must have been one of those arranged fookin thangs.

actually its' "I like my wine like my women... ready to pass out.
Not so he could have sex with them passed out, but so they'd finally be quiet and he could talk.

It was Robin Williams after all...not Cosby. Cause then it would have meant bad bad things.

 

[gerryh]

Robin Williams said that he liked his women like his wine, passed out..

and Robin Williams was a comedian. I can see how, with your limited mental abilities, that you wouldn't be able to see the difference between him and the OP's idiot.

 

[Ludlow]

and Robin Williams was a comedian. I can see how, with your limited mental abilities, that you wouldn't be able to see the difference between him and the OP's idiot.

LOL,,what a putz.

Oh look another Walter with a reddie. Now that's gonna hurt I'll tell ya for true. Must not have any more lies to tell like how honest he is.

 

[CDNBear]

to be perfectly honest, because I worry that what he has to say, could change how certain people feel about how many rights a woman has. Again, to be perfectly honest, it is a knee jerk reaction, this fear.

I don't think you need to be afraid. He isn't advocating rape.

Women have had to fight pretty hard to have some of the rights we currently have and in some instances we're still fighting to have what men have. Also, I worry about things. lol.

I don't see how being absolved of accountability is a right.

It is a slippery slope. But I have hope the as humans we can stop the slide without things getting violent or bad.

I do too. But barring people from speaking, isn't the right course of action.

I have daughters, grand daughters and a couple of great grand daughters so I'm a little
one sided here This guy should be jailed for even advocating in favor of a criminal act.
No means NO and should remain that way. People have to be more responsible and
think before they act. The guy must be guilty of something

He's guilty of being a pig. But what do you care, you couldn't even take the few seconds needed to read the thread and see that he doesn't advocate a criminal act.

How you ended up with anyone is beyond me. Must have been one of those arranged fookin thangs.

I know you are but what am I

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

That's right. If you need to get a woman drunk to get laid, then you don't deserve to get laid.

That's not what I meant exactly. I was thinking about Bear's scenario where 2 people get drunk, have sex, woman has 2nd thoughts in the morning. Both parties are drunk yet 1 is not responsible for her choices and one is. And what if she was the one coming on, is it still rape?

I personally believe that unless one is drugged or gotten drunk without ones knowledge, one should be fully responsible for ones actions while intoxicated. Whether that be driving a car, having sex, barfing in a flower pot. All have consequences and 'because I was drunk' does not excuse the behaviour nor does it remove consent. So a Yes while drunk should mean Yes.

 

[Twila]

I don't see how being absolved of accountability is a right.

I'm not following. What accountability are we talking about?

 

[Remington1]

This is disturbing. I'm thinking it might be time to start up a meet up group for people who like to beat up rapists.

A U.S. “pick up artist,” Daryush Valizadeh, who has published material suggesting rape inside a private home should be legal, is planning a “meetup” in Victoria this weekend.

His group, Return of Kings, is hosting gatherings Saturday night in 43 different countries. The intended meeting point in Victoria is the War Memorial statue at the BC Legislature grounds. According to their website:

“We will have 165 meetings in 43 countries for our international meetup day on February 6, 2016 at 8PM local time.”

“To identify your fellow tribesmen, ask the following question to a man you suspect is there for the meetup: “Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” If you are asked this question, answer in the affirmative: “Yes, it’s right here.” You can then introduce yourself and get details about where to proceed at 8:20. If you ask someone for the pet shop and they appear confused or actually try to direct you to a real pet shop, they’re not there for the meetup.”

The group believe rape should be legalised on private property and that women are biologically determined to follow the orders of men.

“These ideas that are hateful and misogynistic aren’t welcome here,”city councillor Jeremy Loveday tells CFAX.

The hashtag #turnawayreturnofkings is currently trending on Twitter, with Vancouver’s Mayor’s office tweeting:

The Mayor of Ottawa has also made it clear that the group is not welcome in the city

Victoria police reached out to the public through social media networks today, stating that they were aware of the gathering and will be keeping an eye on the situation. From the Victoria Police Department Facebook page:

“We’ve heard concerns from many of you about a group that is planning a meet-up in Victoria on Saturday. Please know that we are hearing you and are monitoring the situation. We’ll be keeping a watchful eye on this in order to ensure public safety. Thank you for bringing us your concerns. If you have a more immediate concern, please call us at (250) 995-7654.“

Pro-rape ‘pick up artist’ group to meet in Victoria - Victoria Buzz

There are several listings for variuos cities here

http://www.returnofkings.com/78021/full-city-listing-and-meeting-points-for-international-meetup-day

and because people are protesting there is also a link to how to find out where the location is IF there's a email address listed only.

Seriously f'cked up people.

This pinhead should move to Germany and join the group of neanderthal running amok brutalizing woman. I heard that skinheads are roaming the street looking for the very neanderthals, so maybe they might find this one and show him a good time.

 

[CDNBear]

I'm not following. What accountability are we talking about?

If you drive drunk, you're responsible for your actions. If you f@ck drunk you aren't.

This pinhead should move to Germany and join the group of neanderthal running amok brutalizing woman. I heard that skinheads are roaming the street looking for the very neanderthals, so maybe they might find this one and show him a good time.

You should probably read the thread.

 

[Blackleaf]

time for all rapists to have permanent ankle monitors on.

Mr Valizadeh isn't a rapist.

 

[Twila]

If you drive drunk, you're responsible for your actions. If you f@ck drunk you aren't.

ah, right. k, well that is a dilemma. Personal accountability. We need to raise our kids to be accountable for their actions. We should also raise our kids to be fully aware of the effects of alcohol and not shy away from talking about sex and all it's related baggage with our children.

Maybe with the legalized pot, this won't even be an issue?

This is a tough thing. Can't blame or seen to be blaming the "victim". Can't put the responsiblity of both parties onto the man. Yikes.

I think that both sexes are going to really need to be aware of the red flags. Anything i think of to counter act the potential legal issues for men puts the responsibility fully on the mans shoulders and that's not fair.

What are you thoughts?

 

[CDNBear]

ah, right. k, well that is a dilemma. Personal accountability. We need to raise our kids to be accountable for their actions. We should also raise our kids to be fully aware of the effects of alcohol and not shy away from talking about sex and all it's related baggage with our children.

Maybe with the legalized pot, this won't even be an issue?

This is a tough thing. Can't blame or seen to be blaming the "victim". Can't put the responsiblity of both parties onto the man. Yikes.

I think that both sexes are going to really need to be aware of the red flags. Anything i think of to counter act the potential legal issues for men puts the responsibility fully on the mans shoulders and that's not fair.

What are you thoughts?

I'm about in the same boat as you. There has to be balance. But that balance is going to come with a price, that no one wants to pay.

 

[gerryh]

I'm about in the same boat as you. There has to be balance. But that balance is going to come with a price, that no one wants to pay.

No, there doesn't "have" to be balance. As long as one of the party can take responsibility for their actions, it's all good. As far as I'm concerned, that responsibility falls with the male, contrary to what the OP is wanting. I have taught my boys that no means no and I don't care of she has already said yes and is laying naked on their bed. Same with if they are drunk, that means no. Period. If I find out otherwise I will personally castrate them. End of discussion.

 

[CDNBear]

End of discussion.

Ok...

 

[gerryh]

Ok...

lol... that is what I told them. There would be no ya buts, or excuses.