Pro-Palestine Anti-Israel College Campus Protests

Ron in Regina

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Liberals think if we cozy up, they'll stop throwing gays off roofs, stoning women to death, and listening to ABBA.
(Or a vote thing, inside Canada, but they’re looking like they’re swinging votes to the NDP/Liberals instead of the Liberal/NDP’s which is one of the few demographics that isn’t predicted to vote predominantly conservative)

A new poll suggests Muslim and Jewish voters are leaning away from the federal Liberals in voting intentions — a possible sign that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's efforts to straddle gaps in public opinion over the Israel-Hamas war are falling short.

The new poll of voting intentions by the Angus Reid Institute says the federal NDP is leading the Liberals among Muslim voters 41 per cent to 31 per cent, while the federal Conservatives are beating the Liberals among Jewish voters 42 per cent to 33 per cent.
"The Jewish diaspora is now saying, 'You haven't gone far enough in condemning Hamas and condemning the violence and stopping antisemitism in Canada.' And you've got pro-Palestinian voters and populations, many of whom are Muslim, obviously saying, 'You haven't gone far enough to condemn the Israeli Defence Forces for its counterattack in Gaza.'"
 
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(Or a vote thing, inside Canada, but they’re looking like they’re swinging votes to the NDP/Liberals instead of the Liberal/NDP’s which is one of the few demographics that isn’t predicted to vote predominantly conservative)

A new poll suggests Muslim and Jewish voters are leaning away from the federal Liberals in voting intentions — a possible sign that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's efforts to straddle gaps in public opinion over the Israel-Hamas war are falling short.

The new poll of voting intentions by the Angus Reid Institute says the federal NDP is leading the Liberals among Muslim voters 41 per cent to 31 per cent, while the federal Conservatives are beating the Liberals among Jewish voters 42 per cent to 33 per cent.
"The Jewish diaspora is now saying, 'You haven't gone far enough in condemning Hamas and condemning the violence and stopping antisemitism in Canada.' And you've got pro-Palestinian voters and populations, many of whom are Muslim, obviously saying, 'You haven't gone far enough to condemn the Israeli Defence Forces for its counterattack in Gaza.'"
Makes sense. Muslims do not believe in women having rights. The NDP don't believe in anyone having rights.
 

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(Or a vote thing, inside Canada, but they’re looking like they’re swinging votes to the NDP/Liberals instead of the Liberal/NDP’s which is one of the few demographics that isn’t predicted to vote predominantly conservative)

A new poll suggests Muslim and Jewish voters are leaning away from the federal Liberals in voting intentions — a possible sign that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's efforts to straddle gaps in public opinion over the Israel-Hamas war are falling short.

The new poll of voting intentions by the Angus Reid Institute says the federal NDP is leading the Liberals among Muslim voters 41 per cent to 31 per cent, while the federal Conservatives are beating the Liberals among Jewish voters 42 per cent to 33 per cent.
"The Jewish diaspora is now saying, 'You haven't gone far enough in condemning Hamas and condemning the violence and stopping antisemitism in Canada.' And you've got pro-Palestinian voters and populations, many of whom are Muslim, obviously saying, 'You haven't gone far enough to condemn the Israeli Defence Forces for its counterattack in Gaza.'"
As I understand it, the Trudeau Liberals want it both ways.
They can't have it both ways.
This is a pick-a-side issue.
Go! Israel! Go!
 
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While people have the right to protest, they should not be allowed to protest to convince Canadian governments and or universities to meet their demands and views. Canada should not be asked to agree with them, and then do something to achieve what they want. If they are serious about their demands, go to the country that you support, pay your money to show support, negotiate with the leaders who can make the changes. I.E. PalestinIans go to Gaza, demand that the Hamas stop the war. Maybe Canadians should be able to get life insurance on them in case they get into trouble. Also those who agree with them can life insurance and use the insurance benefits to donate to others and the country they support!
 

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While people have the right to protest, they should not be allowed to protest to convince Canadian governments and or universities to meet their demands and views. Canada should not be asked to agree with them, and then do something to achieve what they want. If they are serious about their demands, go to the country that you support, pay your money to show support, negotiate with the leaders who can make the changes. I.E. PalestinIans go to Gaza, demand that the Hamas stop the war. Maybe Canadians should be able to get life insurance on them in case they get into trouble. Also those who agree with them can life insurance and use the insurance benefits to donate to others and the country they support!
Protesters constantly ask the Government to agree with them. That's the point of the protest.
My opinion of the protesters is that some are deeply invested, and some are halfwits who haven't even bothered to read a Wiki about what's really happening.
I think they've had their say, and if they don't comply, lock them up.
 

Ron in Regina

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So…U of T…today is protest camp “time to go home” day…will they?

For more than a month, anti-Israel protesters have established themselves on university campuses across Canada, but less than one-fifth of Canadians support them, according to a new national poll.

The poll, conducted by Leger for the Association for Canadian Studies, shows that these protesters have the support of just 19 per cent of Canadians, although 21 per cent of people in metro Toronto and 25 per cent in greater Vancouver support the protesters’ aims. The support is dwarfed, however, by the 48 per cent of Canadians who oppose the encampments (including 45 per cent in Toronto and 34 per cent in greater Vancouver). Montrealers, at 49 per cent, are the most vehemently opposed.

Winning the hearts & minds…not so much. In fact, the above figures only account for those who have actually heard of the protests. Fully 16 per cent of Canadians hadn’t even heard about the encampments.
As a member of the University of Toronto’s Governing Council and several of its committees, I am dismayed by the violent mob that has taken over a central area of the university, targeting members of the Jewish community through such illegal actions as confinement and assault. The university’s response, under the guise of academic freedom, has been inadequate, negotiating with the mob instead of addressing antisemitism and eventually caving in to divestment.

U of T would have taken a much more aggressive approach, as it should, if any of these antisemitic acts were targeted at a different at-risk group. Criticism of Israel isn’t antisemitism, but denying its right to exist and calling for genocide is.
Pro-Palestinian protesters at the University of Toronto say they don’t believe the police will be called in to remove them on Monday, arguing it will take the school days to obtain the order to do so.
Demonstrators, who set up an encampment on the University of Toronto campus on May 2, were issued trespassing notices on Friday and have been ordered to vacate the area by Monday morning at 8 a.m.
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Shots fired at a Jewish school in the early morning hours of Saturday in Toronto’s north end. Just hours later, protesters at the gates of the University of Toronto cheered on a recording of a speech from a Hamas spokesman praising the Mujahideen. It’s another sign that these protests are pro-Hamas and not pro-Palestinian.
U of T Occupy for Palestine, the official social media account for the protest movement, was dismissive of the offer and Gertler shortly after the offer was made public and emailed to the student body.

“Today is day 22 and the start of the 4th week of the People’s Circle for Palestine. Our boy Meric sent this email to all @uoft students today. How f—ing dare he? There is nothing peaceful or sustainable about investing in genocide,” the account posted to X, etc…

Don’t expect a resolution on Friday (3 days ago). Gertler said that he is giving the campers 24 hours to consider his offer and that he would update the school community again on Monday.

The defiance we are seeing in statements already will likely harden over the weekend among the hardcore supporters.
 

Ron in Regina

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The University of Toronto turned to the courts Monday in an effort to clear an encampment of pro-Palestinian protesters from its downtown campus, as a Quebec judge imposed restrictions on a similar demonstration at the Université du Québec à Montréal.

At the Toronto encampment, protesters said they were prepared to fight back with their own legal team and refused to leave the site, ignoring a deadline set in a trespass notice that had been issued last week.

U of T president Meric Gertler said the school was seeking an injunction and asking a court for an expedited case conference.

"In addition to pursuing this legal avenue to return King’s College Circle to the university community, we continue to engage in discussions with students representing those in the encampment," he wrote in a statement early Monday.
 

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Why doesn't everybody just ignore them? Don't put them on the 6'o'clock news. If they are students, and miss an exam, they get 0. If they flunk out then they are done. Without the attention they will get bored and go away.
 
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Why doesn't everybody just ignore them? Don't put them on the 6'o'clock news. If they are students, and miss an exam, they get 0. If they flunk out then they are done. Without the attention they will get bored and go away.
Whatever happened to living in a tent in Banff and washing dishes for beer money? Poor kids, theyre lost.
 
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Ron in Regina

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This weekend, two people approached a Jewish girls elementary school in Toronto and fired multiple gun shots. The shooting heightens the fears of a Canadian Jewish community that has now experienced multiple shootings at schools and community centres, attacks on students, and vandalism at Jewish businesses and homes.

Supporters of campus protests will no doubt reject the suggestion that there is a connection between the encampments and antisemitic violence, but to my mind, the linkage is clear. Indeed, by normalizing antisemitic speech and downplaying the safety and discrimination concerns of their Jewish colleagues and students, they have provided the fuel for the serious threats that have followed.
The head of Universities Canada said Monday he supports shutting down anti-Israel encampments on campuses across the country, and the presidents of the four largest universities in Canada admitted that antisemitism is a “significant problem.”

Universities Canada president and CEO Gabriel Miller also said that enforcing university speech codes against antisemitic hate has been a challenge.

Miller and the university presidents were testifying at the Commons justice committee on combating antisemitism on Monday. During the committee meeting, the presidents of McGill University, Concordia University, University of British Columbia and University of Toronto called antisemitism on their campuses a “significant problem.”

McGill University president and vice-chancellor Deep Saini said it is “simply unacceptable” that Jewish students have felt intimidated on their campus, a position echoed by the three other university presidents at the committee.

But they also confirmed that no members of their faculties had been disciplined as of yet for antisemitic incidents, though many confirmed that an unspecified number of internal investigations were ongoing. They said they had to respect due process.

University of Toronto president Meric Gertler said an unspecified number of students had been suspended or expelled from the school for violating the school’s code of conduct, but that none of the incidents were related to the encampment on the school’s grounds that began over three weeks ago.

“Actions are underway, but it does take some time to follow the process,” Gertler said on the same day his administration filed for a court injunction against the encampment.

At the Toronto encampment, protesters said they were prepared to fight back with their own legal team and refused to leave the site, ignoring an 8 a.m. Monday deadline set in a trespass notice that had been issued Friday.

Surprise, surprise, surprise…

“University has absolutely become a place for hate and intolerance,” Conservative MP Melissa Lantsman said.

Jewish groups, anti-hate activists and police forces across the country have reported an increase in antisemitic incidents since the brutal attacks by terrorist group Hamas against Israel on October 7.

Many Jewish students and Jewish groups on Canadian university campuses have also reported being attacked, verbally and physically.

Despite those incidents, Miller said that enforcement of university rules against hate speech continues to be a challenge. He was not able to say whether any students or university faculty had been disciplined for antisemitic events, etc…

The heads of McGill, Concordia, UBC and UofT all roundly denounced antisemitism in all its forms as well as any calls for the genocide of Jews and said that they did not support the Boycott, Divest and Sanction (commonly known as BDS) movement that the encampments are demanding of them.
 

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Should we remember that in about 1948, Israel defeated the Palestinians in a war. The UN got involved trying to stop the war, by saying that Israel had allow the Palestinians land, and they did, in Gaza, and the West Bank. Did this stop the problem, Gaza is a no-man’s land, West Bank is being invaded and homes built on by the Israeli people. Did the UN think that because they said to get along, the two enemies would get along? I see that both parties are at fault, for the continued conflict that started the recent war, but the Israeli people know that they have to eliminate the enemy, as both parties view the other group, needs to be killed before the winner can have peace. Why have not the Hamas group given up, and move to Iran? I question why Hamas is still fighting when there will very few homes to left to live in Gaza? Gaza will have to negotiate with Israel for water, food, fuel, in order to live, which might be difficult trying to negotiate with some who dislikes you.
 

Ron in Regina

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60/16,000? That can’t be right.
According to the trespass notice, students who fail to leave by Monday morning could be subject to discipline, including sanctions as severe as a five-year suspension or a recommendation of expulsion.
And that came and went without anything happening. Never make empty threats or empty promises.
It also said faculty, librarians and staff may be subject to disciplinary measures up to and including termination.
The 60/16,000 faculty members in involved. I’m still blown away by that 16,000 number…
In an April 30 letter to University of Toronto president Meric Gertler, UTFA executive committee argued that a blanket ban on encampments is an unreasonable restriction on freedom of expression rights, which are also protected under the code of student conduct.
Encampments are a freedom of expression? Seriously? A protected expression under the code of student conduct? Really?
By designating all buildings and lands on campus as private property, the letter said, the university is seeking the power to decide which protests are or are not authorized.
But, isn’t it actually private property? I’ll tell you I’d be having issues if somebody was protesting on my front lawn…all 20’x22’ of it because it’s their right?
In response, Kristin Taylor, university counsel and chief legal officer, said in a statement Saturday that any notion that the campus is not private property has no basis in fact.
Well, that’s interesting…
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60/16,000? That can’t be right.

And that came and went without anything happening. Never make empty threats or empty promises.

The 60/16,000 faculty members in involved. I’m still blown away by that 16,000 number…

Encampments are a freedom of expression? Seriously? A protected expression under the code of student conduct? Really?

But, isn’t it actually private property? I’ll tell you I’d be having issues if somebody was protesting on my front lawn…all 20’x22’ of it because it’s their right?

Well, that’s interesting…
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Get out the firehoses.