President Trumps Mythical Canadian Water Faucet
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Trump says Ontario ‘shouldn’t be playing with electricity’ amid trade war
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Though Trump initiated the treaty talks during his first term, the president has now indicated he’s not happy with the agreement in principle reached last summer.
The president included the treaty on a four-page list of grievances that he recited on a recent call with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the Globe and Mail newspaper reported Saturday.
“The president said the treaty was unfair to the U.S. and that it needed changes that Canada had yet to agree to,” wrote reporters Patrick White and Robert Fife.
If the Americans are seeking better terms, that could be bad news for B.C. The New Democrats endorsed last year’s agreement, even though it included significant concessions by the Canadian side, but that was Pre-Trump and his economic policies to harm Canada and Canadians with tariffs, threats, insults, and general ignorance and disrespectful rhetoric.
B.C. took a hit to get a new Columbia River treaty. Now Trump wants even more
Vaughn Palmer: B.C. is waiting to see if Trump has a specific proposal or is just listing the treaty as a negotiating tool. Read more.
Columbia River Treaty talks on hold amid Trump attacks on Canadian sovereignty
Columbia River Treaty talks on hold as Trump administration reviews international engagement
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Perhaps its time we start building water pipelines to the US? It only makes sense. Face it, AZ and CA water is our food. Im up for cheaper drought free fruit and veg. Every last one of us in the U.S and Canada relies on the Colorado River.(YouTube & ‘Artificially drawn line’: The border and Trump’s plan for Canada)
“What isn’t normal is some of the musings of the president of the U.S., with respect to British Columbia, to Canada and our water,” Dix explained. “The vicious anti-Canadian attacks that he made on this, on all these issues.”Trump says Ontario ‘shouldn’t be playing with electricity’ amid trade war
U.S. President Donald Trump said to reporters on Wednesday that Ontario "shouldn’t be playing with electricity," after Premier Doug Ford announced a pause on...
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Though Trump initiated the treaty talks during his first term, the president has now indicated he’s not happy with the agreement in principle reached last summer.
The president included the treaty on a four-page list of grievances that he recited on a recent call with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the Globe and Mail newspaper reported Saturday.
“The president said the treaty was unfair to the U.S. and that it needed changes that Canada had yet to agree to,” wrote reporters Patrick White and Robert Fife.
If the Americans are seeking better terms, that could be bad news for B.C. The New Democrats endorsed last year’s agreement, even though it included significant concessions by the Canadian side, but that was Pre-Trump and his economic policies to harm Canada and Canadians with tariffs, threats, insults, and general ignorance and disrespectful rhetoric.
The terms required B.C. to immediately give up 37 per cent of its entitlement to the market value of electricity generated on the U.S. side of the border. The reduction would increase to 50 per cent starting in 2033??? Really? Demanding this during a trade war? Wouldn’t this be egregious???B.C. took a hit to get a new Columbia River treaty. Now Trump wants even more
Vaughn Palmer: B.C. is waiting to see if Trump has a specific proposal or is just listing the treaty as a negotiating tool. Read more.vancouversun.com
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There is no end date to the treaty, however, there is a 10-year period that is required if either side decides to unilaterally terminate it…assuming both sides honour treaties, trade agreements, sovereignty of other nations, mutual respect, etc…from September 2024 onward, which was six-ish months ago, & feels like a lifetime ago.Columbia River Treaty talks on hold amid Trump attacks on Canadian sovereignty
Columbia River Treaty talks on hold as Trump administration reviews international engagement
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Don’t start making sense. None of this has to do with cooperation and the common good. Actually thinking this through is counterproductive.
Its the end goal. Face it. 20 years ago Banc du Canada was saying it was 20-30 years to an North American Union. Here we are.
Before this can happen Canadian patriotism needs to be cranked up. Step 2 is an offer we cant refuse that gives the upper hand, reassures your Rights with your renewed patriotism intact.
If it makes Canadians feel theyre the victors of a viscious attack and preexisting financial crisis we'll go for it.
Water is not part of NAFTAUSMCACUZMA whatever…
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Water is a provincial (not federal) responsibility like other natural resources, according to this professor, & yet:
…yet another PM in 1970 was stretching, federal tentacles into provincial jurisdictions…
Under the terms of the agreement, Canada MUST control the flow of the Columbia River through its network of dams TO ENSURE US hydropower generators receive enough water AND to prevent flooding. Those benefits are worth roughly $200m (C$288m) annually for the province.
For its part, the US MUST also give Canada half the additional potential hydroelectric power produced by dams, which it sells at market rate. While the future of the pact looks uncertain, either nation MUST give a 10-year notice before abandoning the deal.
Today, it’s about tariffs, but what Donald Trump covets is what Canada has: critical minerals, oil, trees, a massive slice of the Arctic and an abundance of freshwater.
Water is a provincial (not federal) responsibility like other natural resources, according to this professor, & yet:
…yet another PM in 1970 was stretching, federal tentacles into provincial jurisdictions…
Under the terms of the agreement, Canada MUST control the flow of the Columbia River through its network of dams TO ENSURE US hydropower generators receive enough water AND to prevent flooding. Those benefits are worth roughly $200m (C$288m) annually for the province.
For its part, the US MUST also give Canada half the additional potential hydroelectric power produced by dams, which it sells at market rate. While the future of the pact looks uncertain, either nation MUST give a 10-year notice before abandoning the deal.
Today, it’s about tariffs, but what Donald Trump covets is what Canada has: critical minerals, oil, trees, a massive slice of the Arctic and an abundance of freshwater.
The state department said on Thursday it was the first time that the United States had rejected a request by Mexico for special delivery of water, which would have gone to the border city of Tijuana.
“Mexico’s continued shortfalls in its water deliveries under the 1944 water-sharing treaty are decimating American agriculture – particularly farmers in the Rio Grande valley,” the state department’s bureau handling Latin America said in a post on X.
The 1944 treaty, which governs water allocation from the Rio Grande and Colorado River, has come under growing strain in recent years due to the pressures of the climate crisis and the burgeoning populations and agriculture in parched areas.
The treaty sets five-year cycles for water deliveries, with the latest set to end in October 2025.
So this Mexico/America treaty has not expired, but the Columbia River Treaty has expired…& Canada is still honouring the Treaty with the US but not so much honouring by the US on its southern border?
US rejects Mexico’s request for water as Trump opens new battle front — Guardian US
State department turns down special request to supply city of Tijuana in drought-affected north for first time ever
What exactly is the Columbia River Treaty? And why is the president putting it on pause?
The treaty provides both Canada and the US with extra energy from hydropower generated by Grand Coulee Dam, as well as flood control for the US, which has be...
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Because he's a gaping rectum of tantrums.(YouTube & What exactly is the Columbia River Treaty? And why is the president putting it on pause?)What exactly is the Columbia River Treaty? And why is the president putting it on pause?
The treaty provides both Canada and the US with extra energy from hydropower generated by Grand Coulee Dam, as well as flood control for the US, which has be...
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I’m not sure, but for some reason, I’m thinking of this scene from Caddyshack?
The simple solution to the Columbia River problem is to make Washington and Oregon into a province of Canada. Or at least a couple of miles South of the river to ensure control over nearby habitat and fishing. Then the entire river is Canadian, and no US government meddling is warranted
We would have to do something about all the leftys that have infested Washington . Maybe deport them to California?
We would have to do something about all the leftys that have infested Washington . Maybe deport them to California?
“We don’t need energy from Canada. We don’t need lumber from Canada. We don’t need anything from Canada. I believe this will be the golden age of America,” stated Trump again recently so “Phew!” & we should listen to him I guess, as we are each others largest trading partners.
In 2025 alone, Trump has:
- Falsely said the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st state, which the Canadian public overwhelmingly opposes
- Falsely said the US trade deficit with Canada is “$200 billion,” though it is nowhere close
- Falsely said Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in global rankings
- Falsely said Canada hiked its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration, though they haven’t changed since Trump’s first presidency
- Falsely said Canada generally doesn’t “take” US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-biggest buyer of those exports
- Falsely said Canada prohibits US banks, though more than a dozen US banks are operating in Canada today
- Falsely said Canada is “constantly surrounded” by Chinese and Russian ships, though this is fiction
- Falsely said outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was using the ongoing tariff battle to run again for prime minister, though Trudeau clearly wasn’t running
- Falsely said Canada spends less than 1% of gross domestic product on defense, though NATO figures showed it was an estimated 1.37% last year, which is still bad but supposedly changing…
While Canada does limit foreign access to its dairy, egg and poultry markets in particular, these are exceptions rather than the rule. The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face zero tariffs or quotas, and that “Canada consistently ranks among our top markets for agricultural product exports, representing one of our most significant and reliable trading partners.”
Trump falsely claimed to reporters Friday that he had Canada’s dairy-tariff situation “well taken care of” at the time he left office the first time, “but under Biden, they just kept raising it.” In fact, Canada did not raise its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration. The tariffs Trump is denouncing were left in place by the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement he signed in 2018, though that agreement did secure greater US access to the Canadian dairy market.
Trump has also persistently failed to mention that Canada’s high dairy tariffs only kick in after the US has hit a certain Trump-negotiated quantity of tariff-free dairy sales to Canada each year – and as the US dairy industry acknowledges, the US is not hitting its zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product, so the tariffs aren’t being applied.
(Anyway…this thread is about water, so I guess the above is neither here nor there regarding that H2O resource)
Really got the chimps riled up didn't he? I don't think Mr Trump likes the chimps. I wonder why?
It being difficult to figure out what Trump is saying on any particular subject on any given day, the simple facts about water seem beyond his grasp. Canadian water in particular.
We have rules about how much water must be released into the ocean for fish habitat. Sometimes, our water extraction is reaching those limits.
Trump seems to think because the US is South of Canada, all water naturally runs downhill into the US. Most likely, he doesn't even know what a topographical map is, never mind how to read one.
If the US needs more water for golf courses, they should be seriously looking at the sewage outfalls. That is what we do.
We have rules about how much water must be released into the ocean for fish habitat. Sometimes, our water extraction is reaching those limits.
Trump seems to think because the US is South of Canada, all water naturally runs downhill into the US. Most likely, he doesn't even know what a topographical map is, never mind how to read one.
If the US needs more water for golf courses, they should be seriously looking at the sewage outfalls. That is what we do.
What about a pipe instead of a canal?
What if we built a water pipeline from Canada to Los Angeles? Despite claims that there is "unlimited water" north of the border with a "giant faucet" just w...
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