Praying for the abused isn't good enough for the perpetrators

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The Catholic Archbishop of Ottawa is calling on followers of the faith to “repent” and seek forgiveness for how the church mistreated thousands of aboriginal children in residential schools for many decades...Meanwhile, the Anglican, United and Presbyterian churches – which were also involved in the school system – are gearing up for next week’s TRC release with plans to forge “reconciliation” activities.
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The churches referenced above are congregations who a share a belief system, a denomination and a local building, perhaps.

The church as referenced by Jesus: "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." (Matthew 16:18 NIV) and Paul: "Therefore, 'Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." (2 Corinthians 6:17; Isaiah 52:11 NIV) is the Greek ekklesia, or those who have been called out or set apart by Christ.

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In his letter, Prendergast invites Catholics “to reflect on the importance of Canada’s First Peoples and to repent with me for how the Church has at times mistreated them.”.
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The ekklesia of Christ is not complicit in this.
 
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A former chief recalls the horrors of residential school: Q&A | Toronto Star

The Wildly Depressing History of Canadian Residential Schools | VICE | Canada

The Wildly Depressing History of Canadian Residential Schools



During the mid 1800’s Canada’s colonization was chugging along with the industrial age, and the thinkers of the day were turning their brainpower towards the pesky task of how to deal with the “Indian Problem.” In 1841, Herman Charles Merivale, the British Secretary of State for the Colonies (who doesn’t look like he would be a bad guy to smoke cigars and sip sherry with), established and executed a concoction of his four policies on the subject: Extermination, slavery, insulation and assimilation. All of these were wrapped tidily up in the Residential School system.

At least 3,000 died in residential schools, research shows - Canada - CBC News

Many students were physically, mentally and sexually abused. Some committed suicide. Some died fleeing their schools.
One heart-breaking incident that drew rare media attention at the time involved the deaths of four boys — two aged 8 and two aged 9 — in early January 1937.
A Canadian Press report from Vanderhoof, B.C., describes how the four bodies were found frozen together in slush ice on Fraser Lake, barely a kilometre from home.
The "capless and lightly clad" boys had left an Indian school on the south end of the lake "apparently intent on trekking home to the Nautley Reserve," the article states.
A coroner's inquest later recommended "excessive corporal discipline" of students be "limited."
 
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Motar said:
The churches referenced above are congregations who a share a belief system, a denomination and a local building, perhaps.

The church as referenced by Jesus: "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." (Matthew 16:18 NIV) and Paul: "Therefore, 'Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." (2 Corinthians 6:17; Isaiah 52:11 NIV) is the Greek ekklesia, or those who have been called out or set apart by Christ.



The ekklesia of Christ is not complicit in this.
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Scrub scrub scrub!
 
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It is obvious that Christ had nothing to do with the residential schools. But those claiming to be his followers certainly did. It was state and church policy to "beat the Indian out of the Indian" even if that meant killing, abusing, performing medical experiments and raping them. Before Columbus, Papal Bulls declared that any peoples not mentioned in the bible were not human and they could be killed, enslaved and their land taken without divine intervention or punishment. That was the attitude taken by all European colonizers world wide. Even after decades of aboriginal peoples request to have the Vatican repeal these Bulls, they are still on the books and the attitudes of the colonizers have not changed all that much, as can be seen right here on CC by certain individuals (you know who you are).
 
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It happened to everyone if you were in any school and of any race right up to the end of the 70s.
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yes ... I agree that corporal punishment was viewed quite differently when I was growing up

so was rape...girls got raped and went to school the next day then never told another human being until years and years later

I think a lot of people from my generation are messed up because they were made to deal with such things alone, or made to feel shame when in fact they were victims and there is no shame associated with something that was perpetrated upon them
 
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Sal said:
yes ... I agree that corporal punishment was viewed quite differently when I was growing up

so was rape...girls got raped and went to school the next day then never told another human being until years and years later

I think a lot of people from my generation are messed up because they were made to deal with such things alone, or made to feel shame when in fact they were victims and there is no shame associated with something that was perpetrated upon them
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I never mentioned corporal punishment. I don't know of anybody who was raped, abused, had medical experiments done on them or were murdered by school staff in public schools. Some people may try to minimize what happened in residential schools and I have no idea why they insist on denying what happened except maybe they are trying to deflect blame from their beloved church. What went on in residential schools for indigenous children was nothing like what went on in the public school system. The children were treated like wild animals, locked in closets for days and beaten for speaking their language. They were taken from their families, some of them never saw them again. Some were beaten to death and nothing was ever done about it. 3000 children disappeared into unmarked graves. That never happened at public schools.
 
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Motar said:
"Claiming" is the key word here, Cliffy.
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Many atrocities were committed over 2000 years by so-called Christians. It is what happens when they follow a book that is so ambiguous that it spawns around 45,000 different sects. People interpret it any way they please and abuse it to accumulate vast wealth and power, to start wars, to enslave and murder vast numbers of people. And Why? you might ask? Because in the OT, god sanctioned those actions against people and nations.
 
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